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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:23 PM
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Robert Gates says Obama more analytical than Bush.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:25 PM
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1. Dear Mr. Gates,
Duh!
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:32 PM
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9. I second that. Talk about uncritical analysis. That would be true of just about anyone!
Edited on Sun Mar-01-09 06:32 PM by geckosfeet
And this is the guy running the country intelligence agencies? Haven't they found anything different between the two men that can shared with the American people?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:25 PM
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2. That is an understatement
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 07:07 PM
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16. Shouldn't that be "mis-understatement"?
:rofl:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:26 PM
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3. So is a rock.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:26 PM
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4. My cat is more analytical than bush
Edited on Sun Mar-01-09 06:42 PM by rpannier
nt
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 07:55 PM
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22. Exactly my thought. You beat me to it! nt
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:27 PM
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5. a CLAM is more analytical than Bush. n/t
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:27 PM
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6. Robert Gates is Captain Obvious. eom
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:28 PM
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7. Stop the presses!!!!
LOL!!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:29 PM
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8. Bush is only 40% analytical.
ANAL.
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:33 PM
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10. 60% Physicality, 40% Analyticality= 100% Bush
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:36 PM
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11. The gunk underneath my big toenail is more analytical than Bush...n/t
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:45 PM
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12. I feel sorry for the guy who is trying to keep from dissing Bush.
Oh that must have been so difficult. lol.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 06:46 PM
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13. ....
:eyes:

how observant. :sarcasm:
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 07:00 PM
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14. Could be, but why does he still have a Bush mob member running the Pentagon?
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 07:09 PM
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17. To remind the general population that Afghanistan/Iraq are leftovers from the PREVIOUS..
..administration...And to think that the bushites got mad about the "condition" of the WH when they took over from Clinton..Bush screwed the entire country and then left it to Obama to clean up...
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 07:41 PM
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21. Uh huh. Dream on.
By that logic, he should have just retained all of Bush's cabinet, and Cheney as an in-house adviser.

What the gen pop (and everyone) sees is Obama not only keeping the Bush military command but announcing what seems like his own escalation in Afghanistan, with a greater openness about the extension of hostilities to the Pakistani FATA.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 09:17 PM
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24. how long as he been a spook?
I seem to remember him from the Iran/Contra days, and he was pretty high up then. I'm glad that he, or someone like him who is totally saturated in all those agencies is leading the show. At least in this case Obama has a chance of knowing what's going on. I've read where the Pentagon plans like 30 years out. I wish one of these guys would write a real book..like Phillip Agee's some day.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 10:12 PM
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25. That's really beyond optimistic...
"I'm glad that he, or someone like him who is totally saturated in all those agencies is leading the show."

You're kidding, right? You're glad that a long-term member of the covert criminal elite who was made by Papa Bush is running the show?! On whose behalf do you think this show-running is being done? While I can't say for sure, I can tell you it's not Obama's behalf, or he'd get to boot Gates and put in his own man. This is just illustrating that the Pentagon is more the government than the White House. 1.5 trillion-plus deficit, and one still can't even discuss cutting the war industry, or lifting the iron curtain of secrecy over the vast covert policy apparatus. What do you think that's about? Presidents come and go but there is a permanent self-appointed government that has commandeered vast resources and is possibly self-sustaining, i.e. economically viable on its own. Most of it may be secret, the rest is corporate and thus also quasi secret.

Does Obama even get to know 1/4 of what the secret agencies do?

Sorry if it seems like I'm going off, you seem to know most of the score. What gets me is all the full-blinders types who are going to say Gates staying on is a brilliant act of bipartisan maneuvering, blah blah blah.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 10:20 PM
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26. ummm..yeah...I'm glad!
We are who we are. If Obama put anyone in that position who was hostile to the environment I would be far more concerned about his life expectancy. A brilliant act? I don't know, but at least he's got a shot at having a birds-eye view into the huge juggernaut that is our Intelligence/National Defense apparatus.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 10:32 PM
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27. Two assumptions in there that aren't certain...
Edited on Sun Mar-01-09 10:33 PM by JackRiddler
1) Obama "put Gates in," as opposed to realized he had best keep him, or even had it made clear to him that he'd best keep him.

2) Gates really working on Obama's behalf and gives him a bird's-eye view, as opposed to keeping him blind.

We can't know either to be the case. I don't expect #2 is, given Gates's decades with the Bush Iran-Contra brotherhood.

Besides that: How fucked up is it that we the people can't vote down the power of the Pentagon and the intel agenices? You're saying it: if someone as the elected civilian leader under the Constitution moved to challenge the extraconstitutional, unaccountable and largely secret power of the warrior and spy bureaucracy, then you would be concerned about their lives. (I suppose you're not in denial about Kennedy, either.) How wrong is that?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 11:42 PM
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28. There is very little in..
this life of which I am certain, least of which is another persons thinking. I never said that Gates would work on Obama's behalf. What I said was that Obama "might have a chance" of getting a birds-eye view. As far as Obama "putting Gates in", I believe he had a choice. And I don't know what other choices were considered, but I can certainly understand why if someone like Gates was agreeable he would be chosen. Those with the power in the Pentagon don't need Gates.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 07:05 PM
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15. Do tell
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 07:11 PM
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18. If he weren't, we should all just start swimming out to sea and get it over with. n/t
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 07:18 PM
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19. My turds are more analytical than Bush. n/t
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 07:23 PM
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20. Bush doesn't even know what 'analytical' means.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 08:09 PM
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23. Analytical Definition:
(What bush thinks it means)
Anal-ytical
A system used to measure the size of one's anus
Anal and nautical put together
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