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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 07:23 AM
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GOP-ers abandoning W on Iraq
Unwilling to do the White House's heavy lifting on Iraq, Senate Republicans are prepared to step aside to allow language requiring troop withdrawals to reach President Bush, forcing him to face down Democratic adversaries with his veto pen.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) announced the shift in strategy yesterday, as the chamber took up a $122 billion war spending package that includes a target date of March 31, 2008, for ending most U.S. combat operations in Iraq. The provision, along with a similar House effort, represents the Democrats' boldest challenge on the war, setting the stage for a dramatic showdown with Bush over an otherwise popular bill to keep vital military funds flowing.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/26/AR2007032601923_pf.html
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 07:55 AM
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1. Watching Sonny do an Orwellian Triple Step ...
... on this one is going to be quite a show.

"I'm vetoing this bill that gets immediate funding to the troops because I believe we need to fund the troops."

Nope. Ain't gonna work.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 07:57 AM
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3. as I read it-----this step by McConnel allows Gopers to go home and
say they supported the troops (by their vote on funding).
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 08:00 AM
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4. umm. Congress has a two week Recess, not one like I had thought:

......In the House, Republicans were able to stay unified last week, largely because they believed they had kept the focus on the troops, not on the president. Just two Republicans, Reps. Wayne T. Gilchrest (Md.) and Walter B. Jones (N.C.), voted for the Democrats' $124 billion war spending bill, which sets a firm deadline of Aug. 31, 2008, for the removal of combat troops.

But one House lawmaker with close ties to GOP leaders said the outcome would have been considerably different if Republicans thought that they were simply defending the administration.

"We have toed the line enough for the president, and we have gotten no thanks or gratitude. By and large, Republicans are sick of defending an ungrateful president," the Republican House member said.

Sensing that frustration, Bush invited all House Republicans to come to the White House on Thursday. A House GOP leadership aide said the president hopes to thank Republicans for opposing the Iraq spending bill and to deliver a pep talk before members head to their districts for a two-week spring recess.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 07:55 AM
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2. no, not abandoning--just making sure Gopers in Congress "support the

troops (vote on funding)


..Republicans will still attempt to remove the deadline in a Senate vote expected as soon as today, and GOP leaders were reasonably confident they would muster a majority. But the margin is expected to be thin, requiring the presence of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who had skipped several previous Iraq votes to attend presidential campaign events. McCain canceled a series of fundraisers and meetings in Florida to return to Washington, telling a conservative radio program that he wanted to "beat back this recipe for defeat that the Democrats are trying to foist off on the American people."

No matter the outcome of the Senate vote, McConnell is looking ahead, assuming House Democrats will insist that withdrawal conditions be included when a final bill is sent to Bush. If so, McConnell said, Republicans would forgo the parliamentary tactics they used to block antiwar legislation that had forced Democrats to amass an insurmountable 60 votes to prevail.

"We need to get the bill on down to the president and get the veto out of the way," McConnell said.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino reiterated yesterday Bush's strong opposition to the Senate plan. "We would object to people taking out flexibility for commanders on the ground," she said. Referring to additional sweeteners in the bill, to make it more attractive to individual senators, she added: "And we also object to extra domestic spending that is used to buy votes in order to get to a simple majority vote that is not going to be able to sustain a veto."

As the Senate debate began, Democrats reveled in new evidence suggesting that the party has strong public support for setting an end date. A new Pew Research Center poll found that 59 percent of people surveyed want their congressional representative to support a bill calling for a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq by August 2008, the deadline set in the House version of the spending bill, which passed by a 218 to 212 vote on Friday. Thirty-three percent of respondents said they wanted their representative to oppose it.
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