Something is extraordinarily weird about this chimp story...

[PCIntern]

I don't want to say what I think...it's too disturbing...I am most perturbed and I believe that I know why the chimp attacked the friend, and why the owner was adamant that the animal be shot by the police in the middle of the 911 call. It is not as obvious as the MSM would have us believe.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

1. So?

What do you think is not being told?

And why the tease?

[BurtWorm]

7. Why the tease? I'll tell you why the tease.

Because PC Intern is a chimp!

[PCIntern]

10. "You're weird, sir" -Marcy (corrected!)

[BurtWorm]

14. It talkes one to know one.

[TwilightGardener]

19. That was Marcy's line.

[and-justice-for-all]

62. Is she pregnant with the chimps kid???!!! nt

[tekisui]

2. You have me thinking....

Can you give me more?

[Smith_3]

3. Come on, tell us.

:shrug:

[slackmaster]

4. I think it's extraordinarily weird that someone would keep a chimpanzee as a household pet

A leopard or mountain lion would probably be less dangerous.

[Are_grits_groceries]

5. It's probably not weirder than what has already been thought. nt

[ecstatic]

6. do you think there

was a romantic relationship? :shrug: :hide:

[PCIntern]

9. Mmmmmm....

Maybe-haps....

[Are_grits_groceries]

11. Been there. Thought that. nt

[Tangerine LaBamba]

22. They slept together

Did you listen to that woman? You don't think she's twisted?

"I bought him his favorite foods - filet mignon, lobster tails......." she said in a TV interview I saw.

Yeah, we all thought exactly that when we heard they slept together.

That's an image so disturbing it's not even making it through to my conscious mind, fortunately.

[LostinVA]

82. I NEVER thought anything filthy like that, and am shocked so many others do

It says more about all of YOU, than the owner of the chimp.

The woman IS twisted, but not in that way.

Ugh.

This thread is disgusting.

[PassingFair]

93. Did you see the "interview"?

She's flaky, at best.

I didn't assume anything sexual, but
she DOES SAY that she slept with the
chimp. The chimp was her "companion".

:crazy:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

112. The dogs and cats sleep in our bed

It doesn't mean we have sex with them, even if I do sometimes wake up with Mick's head on my shoulder and my arm wrapped around him.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

101. I have a question...

Do you find it a bit perverted that the chimps owner slept with the chimp and they sipped wine together over lobster tails?

'cause I do.

I think the woman's best friend threatened that male chimp by being too close to the owner. The chimp didn't like that threat much. He was getting rid of the threat. That is what chimps do when they live in the jungle - they kill their rivals.

[Arugula Latte]

94. Michael Jackson ... Bubbles ... just sayin'...

x(

[marksmithfield]

110. We buy my wifes cat her favorite food

And she comes in and sleeps in our bed at night. And sometimes I'll come into the bedroom and find my wife playing with

Oh never mind

[ecstatic]

28. Well...

“We know that one of the most reliable predictors of increased male aggression is the presence of sexually receptive females,” said Jeffrey French, a psychobiologist who studies primate behavior at the University of Nebraska, Omaha.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7087194/

:hide:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

17. was it a boy monkey?

[hlthe2b]

54. It was a male Chimp, an ape... Chimps are not monkeys.

[undeterred]

136. So she wasn't keeping him around for wild monkey sex.

:hide:

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

8. Ok - start with just little hints and then if someone guesses your disturbing theory

correctly , you can say - "OMG! How could you ever come up with something like that!"

[PCIntern]

12. If I said it outright...

there'd be 5000 posts telling me what a creep I am. I know I'm a creep, but I'll let others draw this out...

[BurtWorm]

15. If it's what I think you're thinking, others are already speculating along the same lines.

You're talking transspecies romance?

[Sequoia]

56. That reminds me of another story I heard when I was a kid

About a male chimp attacking his owner to do the wild thang. A vet said it was bound to happen sooner or later and humans are clueless to think it wouldn't happen otherwise.

[LostinVA]

63. The woman considered the chimp her child -- ugh

She was by all accounts happily married. EVERYONE says he was like a CHILD to her, not a mate.

This IS creepy.

[JVS]

69. An obvious case of incestuous monkey sex bestiality!

[LostinVA]

75. This thread is just bonkers

[JVS]

79. It is so full of win!

[LostinVA]

80. Seriesly -- I have to make sure Haruka sees it

[omega minimo]

103. dial her up on the Swarm Hot Line

:hi:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

109. Sorry, I just got here, for some reason the swarm hotline went right into my voicemail

[LostinVA]

116. You really need to get over it

:eyes:

[omega minimo]

120. Keep pretending, LIV

[Marrah_G]

126. Paranoid much?

:eyes:

[backscatter712]

95. Alright, kids, it's time to learn a new word... Humanzee...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanzee

:puke:

[guitar man]

96. hmm, the humanzee

the article says:

The humanzee (also known as the Chuman, or Manpanzee) is a hypothetical chimpanzee/human hybrid. Chimpanzees and humans are very closely related (95% of their DNA sequence, and 99% of coding DNA sequences are in common<1>), leading to contested speculation that a hybrid is possible,though no specimen has ever been confirmed.

are we absolutely sure about that last part? :silly:

[backscatter712]

98. There is that chimp...

:rofl:

[HereSince1628]

134. Humans and chimps don't share the same number of chromosomes

which creates something of a reproductive barrier, despite the reality that chimps and humans have very similar genomes.

[HereSince1628]

13. Check out the parallels of a different attack in this story

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7087194/

Be sure to read the article to the point it makes about when male chimps are aggressive.

[leftchick]

26. oh my

definitely creepy shit.....


<snip>

“We know that one of the most reliable predictors of increased male aggression is the presence of sexually receptive females,” said Jeffrey French, a psychobiologist who studies primate behavior at the University of Nebraska, Omaha.

[HereSince1628]

30. Yes, but I'm not suggesting anything more than

that the chimp could have reacted to what it percieved as a threat to its relationship with the owner.

[WI_DEM]

70. pretty grusome what happened to the California man

The chimps chewed off most of Davis’ face, tore off his foot and attacked his limbs and genitals. Davis was transported to Loma Linda University Medical Center, where he had surgery late Thursday night.

maybe that is why the owner wanted the chimp shot?

[hlthe2b]

16. I hope you aren't inferring some perversion...

:shrug:

I do believe this poor woman had severe (psychosocial) issues that led her to conflate love of a pet with that of a child--even more severely inappropriate, given her choice of "pet" was, indeed, an unpredictable wild animal. She was apparently widowed and had lost her own daughter sometime before. I can certainly imagine how her grief, loneliness and perhaps other psychological issues might have motivated this inappropriate projection of maternal affection on this animal.

Do I believe this male adult chimp perceived her as "his female" and thus was protecting her in a very territorial manner? Very likely. As we say with dogs in household, the human must be the assertive "pack leader," or one or more of the dogs will substitute with disastrous results. That comes from combining discipline with affection--not affection alone. Clearly, the chimp was dominant in this "pet-human" relationship. But, I don't think there was more to it than that. There certainly doesn't need to be.

[PCIntern]

34. OK...

you're a human female sleeping, so to speak, next to a chimpanzee whose reproductive instincts are, shall we say, rather strong. What makes anyone think that the chimp didn't, well...didn't 'try'?

[CTyankee]

37. It's possible. But then it really becomes an animal abuse story.

It's already animal abuse on one level, of course. She should never have owned this animal.

When I saw some of the details on this mornings news, it was like a big neon sign flashing "TMI!!!"

[hlthe2b]

39. She wasn't in heat, being 70 years old....

The male chimp certainly recognized her as female, but she would not have experienced estrus and male chimps are capable of non-sexual relationships with other females--even when they are "in heat."

Chimpanzees are not always promiscuous. A male may form a short-term relationship with a female in estrus and prevent lower-ranking males from mating with her. Male-female pairs may also establish a temporary consortship for up to 3 months. The pair will leave the vicinity of the community and mate only with one another. Consortships are often an effective means for lower-ranking or disabled males to successfully mate. http://www.rollinghillswildlife.com/animals/c/chimpanzee/index.html

[ShortnFiery]

129. She is post-menopausal. Therefore, IMO, your argument does not wash.

Further, beyond the "wild animal" care misjudgment, anyone who owns even domesticated pet canines, often do NOT take the time to establish their role as the "alpha-male" within the group.

This woman has serious "emotional" issues but I doubt there was a sexual relationship. She lost her daughter just a few years earlier. To outlive a child brings about intense grief. She coped by nurturing this chimp. It was the wrong decision.

I only wish that the law would not have allowed her to keep him, then she may have become more lonely but her friend would not have been harmed. :(

[Ganja Ninja]

18. So you're saying it was jealousy?

It's likely that that was the basic motive but it doesn't mean there was any bestiality going on.

[slackmaster]

20. I've heard a few people speculating about just that

It's likely that that was the basic motive but it doesn't mean there was any bestiality going on.

That's a fact.

[HereSince1628]

24. True, it is possible to imagine the chimp as protecting what the chimp

feels is it's relationship to the owner without there being anything like bestiality.

[LostinVA]

65. He knew the victim very well, too, since he'd been a baby

Maybe she kept him Xanaxed up and that caused psychosis.

[MiniMe]

133. Apparently the friend had just gotten her hair cut

And the chimp hadn't see her since the haircut.

They flew the woman to the Cleveland Clinic, where they performed the first face transplant in the US. I wonder if the chimp wore her face up as the poster upthrad mentioned about another attack.

[LostinVA]

64. THANK YOU

[Marrah_G]

21. The chimp attacked because the chimp is a WILD ANIMAL!

Even when they are raised in the best possible conditions, they are still WILD ANIMALS.

There is no conspiracy theory to this.

Chimps very nature is one of violence. It is how they interact with each other.

You are letting images of cute young human looking chimps cloud your mind on this.

[bluedawg12]

25. That chimp has already bitten another human. It is a wild animal

and was treated like a human, from the pics I have seen. Not a good setting for a social primate, apart from his own kind.

[Marrah_G]

31. People see young, almost human-looking cute chimps on TV

They rarely see the true nature of a chimp. Chimps interact with each other in ways that would seriously harm a human. They are very violent in their establishment of the pecking order. They throw things, attack each other, even choosing sides and ganging up on one chimp.

They also hunt other primates to eat.

[Veritas_et_Aequitas]

42. Murder on the Rue Morgue

convinced me never to have a primate for a pet.

[Marrah_G]

50. hehe- yeah

Primates are VERY bad pets.

[pnutbutr]

23. xanax

she gave the thing xanax.

[tekisui]

27. I heard that she said she never did give it xanax.

[KittyWampus]

29. it was being treated for Lymes disease, IIUC.

[Mariana]

108. I'm being treated for Lyme disease...

and it can be very unpleasant and painful. That in itself could drive an animal over the edge. Lyme disease can affect the brain directly, too.

[pnutbutr]

32. she seems to have retracted

her earlier statement about giving it xanax in it's tea.

[LostinVA]

67. She's lying -- I bet toxicology shows Xanax

[JTFrog]

124. I saw the video where she said she gave him Xanax... in tea... she showed the reporter the mug.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/29254992#29254992

*edit to add link

[burythehatchet]

33. DUH! The woman was doing the chimp. She is a sicko

[peace13]

35. The owner said that she slept with the thing..he was like a son to her.

I can tell you right now that I never slept with my 200 pound son. I think it is creepy and sad. I wish a speedy recovery to the injured woman who was certainly at the wrong place at the wrong time. Peace, Kim

[hlthe2b]

51. No, but many people sleep with their pets-- dogs or cats, generally

See my posts upstream. I think she took anthropomorphizing to extremes (and was undoubtedly psychologically impaired), but to assume there was some sexual relationship between this 70 year old woman who had raised this chimp from an infant is likewise taking it to extremes, IMO.

The woman was lonely, a widow, and had replaced the affection she had for her lost daughter with this inappropriate maternal relationship with an unpredictable wild animal.

I remember in college having one of those "no barrier" discussions with a large mixed gender group of friends and the subject of pets came up. I have to tell you that the females there were aghast to realize that many guys assume there is a sexual ulterior motive in many females "love of their dogs." While most of my female friends tried to brush it off as boisterous talk on the part of these guys, it became clear that some were really serious in these perceptions. I was disgusted, but also shocked that some percentage of guys really do think this way. I believe the maternal instincts are much stronger than the sexual drive in most female animals (human and otherwise)-- something that males find more difficult to believe.

[undeterred]

137. Men do think differently about this.

When women friends spend lots of time together I never assume it means they are sexual partners. Sometimes they are, and sometimes they are not. There is nothing wrong or weird about people being close but non sexual.

Unless you're a horndog, then its incomprehensible.

[LostinVA]

68. The chimp wasn't a "thing" or an "it," he was a male chimp, and a pet

The cats sleep with us, and the dogs are allowed to cuddle on the bed until we go to sleep. Her daughter and husabnd died within the last few years. She has some issues, but she felt like the chimp was an adopted child, so I can see why she would sleep with him. Even though I sure as hell wouldn;t. But, my wife's stepfather thinks it's icky to have cats and dogs on your bed.

[Lex]

76. Thanks for saying that.

:)

[LostinVA]

81. You're welcome

Animals aren't humans, even our cousins like higher primates, but they are also not "its." Especially one that has been raised in one home since they were infants. "Travis" wasn't evil. He was a wild animal forced into suburbia.

[peace13]

106. I hear you and apologize and would like to add...

that the dear chimp did what many of us would love to do from time to time. Whether it was a jealous fit or an attempt to protect a loved one, every once in a while we humans could rip someones head off.. but we don't. That's one of the few things that separates most of us from the chimps! Peace, Kim

[QueenOfCalifornia]

104. You made me

laugh right out loud. LOL!!!!

My heavens - you make so much sense in just a few words. No mother - who has both oars in the water, sleeps with her 200 pound, 14 year old son.

[TNOE]

36. It ripped her friend's face off so bad

that she was unrecognizable, the medics thought whe was a man - the woman feared for her life & knew he had to be shot, you could tell she was scared to death in the 9/11 call. I suspect she did give it zanex - and that's why it went crazy.

[Marrah_G]

38. It didn't "go crazy" it did what Chimps do.

This was not a person. This was a wild animal.

It did what is in it's nature to do.

[progressivebydesign]

87. I think after 14 years of acting domesticated (to her) she never expected that.

Not that I'm excusing what happened, but I don't think she could comprehend what went wrong that day... but there are reports that he was agitated about something and on meds for Lyme Disease before all of this started.

[LisaL]

44. xanax is an anti-anxiety medication.

I fail to see why anyone should go crazy if given it.

[JVS]

60. First of all, it's a monkey, so to even assume that it will respond predictably for a drug...

designed for humans is folly.


And even in humans,


"Side effects of alprazolam may occur in patients and are more likely the higher the dosage taken. If signs of an allergic reaction occur such as hives, difficulty breathing, swelling of face, lips, tongue or throat occur medical attention should be sought immediately. Medical attention should also be sought immediately if signs of jaundice appear such as yellowing of the skin or eyes. Other side effects which may occur are as follows:
euphoria<25>
depressed mood, drowsiness, dizziness, fatigue, unsteadiness and impaired coordination, vertigo, skin rash, respiratory disturbance, sleep disorders, constipation, diarrhea, nausea and vomiting<26><27>
decreased inhibitions, no fear of danger (increased risk taking behavior), rage, hostility<28>
thoughts of suicide or self harm<29><30>
urinating less than usual or not at all<31>
hallucinations<32>
ataxia, slurred speech<33>
Short term memory loss and impairment of memory functions<34>
anterograde amnesia<35> and concentration problems
decreased or increased sex drive<36>
dry mouth<37>
increase in appetite<38>
hepatitis<39>
muscle twitching and tremor<40>
convulsions<41>
aggression<42>
mania, agitation, hyperactivity and restlessness<43><44><45>"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alprazolam#Side_effects

[LisaL]

61. The drug isn't just given to humans. My cat was prescribed it.

Sure as hell did not make him agressive.

[ShortnFiery]

130. But Psychotropic medications can easily mix with an individual's biochemistry to produce

what is described as "idiosyncratic effects."

Why do you think that there are so many variations of SSRI Antidepressant Medications?

Further, certain "sleep inducing" medications result in what's termed "a paradoxical effect" for me, as an individual, i.e., it keeps me awake and anxious.

That's why there's increasing public pressure for people to be "closely monitored" when being prescribed any type of psychotropic medications.

Unfortunately, even people who suffer from depression are not monitored adequately. Often times, it may take two to three round of trying different anti-depressant medication before an individual finds the "right chemical mix" for their particular body chemistry/brain disorder. Many people are told to remain on the same anti-depressant long term. Instead of reporting to their Psychiatrists, "It's not working, I want to try some other medication" they GIVE UP on the Mental Health System. That's so tragic, as even another antidepressant within the same action group (Selective Serotonin Re-uptake Inhibitors) will WORK better than the first med attempted. :(

[leftofthedial]

40. what does all that have to do with the stimulus package?

...oh...



:evilgrin:

[PCIntern]

43. This stuff brings out the 'best' in us DUers...

:evilgrin:

[Veritas_et_Aequitas]

41. You're suggesting murder by chimp

by which I mean the chimp had a motive to take out the friend. The female friend, I might add.

I don't know. Over 100 years ago Mr. Edgar Allen Poe seemed to accurately predict the violent rampages of our simian cousins in "Murder on the Rue Morgue".

Edited: Clarity

[Marrah_G]

46. Actually chimps are known for committing murder

Frodo is the name that comes to mind first.

[Veritas_et_Aequitas]

47. Interesting.

Before this the only Frodo I knew about was Frodo Baggins.

[Marrah_G]

49. Frodo is a well known, pretty vicious chimp in Jane Goodalls troop

Besides killing chimp infants, he has also is known to have stolen a human child and eaten it.

They hunt monkeys and literally rip them limb from limb, eating them as they are still dying.

Chimps are NOT the cute cuddly things TV would have people think.

They are magnificent animals that should be respected and left in the wild.

[Veritas_et_Aequitas]

52. I also didn't know chimps were carnivorous before today.

Learning is fun! And sometimes really creepy!

[Marrah_G]

53. hehe yeah- definitely carnivorous

They get very excited over violence and blood.

I was very into National Geographic magazine as a child in the 70's. Ms Goodall's articles were my favorite and have stuck with me all these years.

[hlthe2b]

55. Always a favorite of mine as well....

Jane Goodall and the work of the late Dian Fossey captivated me.

[Shakespeare]

71. Not carnivorous, but cannibalistic, too.

I'm still stunned that a handful of people are suggesting on another thread that is should be legal for people to keep them as pets. Un-fucking-believable.

[FedUpWithIt All]

45. People sleep with "pets" all the time. Am i missing something?

How is this any different than a pet owner sleeping with the dog they consider their baby. I see this as no different.

A disturbing amount of people anthropomorphize their pets. Most of the time this takes the form of a parent/child relationship in the mind of the human (the chimp owner refereed to herself as "Mom" several times. I am pretty sure the adult animals have a different take on things, especially when they are able to display a certain level of dominance in their families. It is most certainly all a bit more complicated in this case due to the advanced intellect of primates.

The chimp was most likely just protecting his owner. Apparently, the friend walked up to the home with an Elmo type doll over her face. I have seen behavior like that upset dogs, i suspect this is no different.

[ProfessorGAC]

48. How About 50,000 Years Of Domestication?

That seems like a pretty big difference to me.

And the "anthropomorphizing" thing sticks in my throat. I've seen people who complain about it before, and never saw any reason for the complaint, other than it gives people a chance to use that word.
GAC

[FedUpWithIt All]

57. The OP suggested that bestiality was occurring because the woman slept in the bed with the chimp.

I am pointing out that people SLEEP with their pets all the time without it being inappropriate. Historical domestication is irrelevant to the issue.



Human beings have human offspring. When people refer to themselves as an animal's parent or refer to an animal as their child they ARE anthropomorphizing. I have done this with the titles myself and often refer to my cats as my babies.

In some cases the practice can go further than simple titles, of course. I tend to think sometimes it goes so far that it becomes irresponsible, uncomfortable and possibly even dangerous to the animals.

[PCIntern]

58. The OP, that is I,

feel that there is a difference between a cat and a primate with all kinds of instincts.

[malaise]

123. I agree with you 100%

To compare sleeping with cats and dogs to sleeping with a chimp is bizarre.

[hlthe2b]

125. No one is saying it is normal, just calling those on the bizarre

assumption that it equates to bestiality. The woman was extremely psychologically damaged. That is clear. But to assume her extreme misplaced maternal feelings equates to a sexual perversion reflects an utter lack of understanding, to say the least.

[hlthe2b]

59. I think many men don't realize that maternal instincts in women

(and in fact females of many species) are often a stronger influence on behavior than sexual desires. For this reason it is all too easy for some men to assume this poor psychlogically damaged woman was having a sexual relationship with this animal, rather than a very misplaced maternal one.

As I mentioned upstream:
I remember in college having one of those "no barrier" discussions with a large mixed gender group of friends and the subject of pets came up. I have to tell you that the females there were aghast to realize that many guys assume there is a sexual ulterior motive in many females "extreme love of their dogs." While most of my female friends tried to brush it off as boisterous talk on the part of these guys, it became clear that some were in some ways really seriously holding these perceptions. I was disgusted, but also shocked that some percentage of guys may really think this way-- that sexual gratification motivates so much of human behavior. I believe the maternal instincts are much stronger than the sexual drive in most female animals (human and otherwise)-- something that males find more difficult to believe.

From some of the posts here, I wonder if this may be a more widespread observation....:shrug:

[LostinVA]

72. Great post -- and you're right, thinking that is disturbing

I get up earlier than Haruka on weekends, and Mick, our older Border Collie, goes and snuggles next to her for an hour or so. I shut the door, so the younger dog won't run in there and bother them. Haruka loves Mick, and picks him up and hugs him, even though he's 40 lbs.! I would NEVER think anything weird was going on, with her or any other woman I know who loves their dog, and not just because she's gay.

To me, it's very odd and disturbing for anyone to even THINK that. And, that includes your college buddies.

:wtf:

[FedUpWithIt All]

74. Excellent post. I agree with you,.

Thank you.

[JCMach1]

88. Yeah, but who asked the chimp how he was feeling?

[ProfessorGAC]

121. That Part I Buy

The "anthro" thing triggered a response. But, there is clearly a difference between sleeping with a fully domesticated animal and one that is still "in the wild".
GAC

[WI_DEM]

66. maybe she was adament about the chimp being shot because she thought the chimp was killing her

friend. It seems likely to me.

[LostinVA]

73. That IS why -- I read the transcript of the 911 call (I couldn't bear to listen to it)

[PCIntern]

122. If you had listened to it,

which you didn't, you would have heard the depth of the upset in the woman's voice, looking, IMO, for the police to end this long nightmare once and for all. This was Faulkner's "A Rose For Emily" rewritten for contemporary audiences.

[Lex]

77. A voice of reason

finally.

[omega minimo]

78. Is it because he was sick of being called "Travis"?

[progressivebydesign]

83. She actually saw him as her child. Her own daughter died, as did her husband.

Beyond the horrific attack on her friend, who was known to the chimp and liked by him. And.. beyond the fact that she should not have had a chimp (though I swear other people have them as pets), a sad part of all of this is that she felt he was her child. I can't even imagine how it must have felt for her to watch him trying to kill her best friend so brutally, and have to stab him with a butcher knife and hit him with a shovel to make him stop, knowing this is an animal that she felt was her "child." She even said that when she was stabbing him he looked at her like "Mom, why are you doing this?"

There was nothing weird going on other than a lonely woman who kept a chimp as a pet, a chimp that was not considered dangerous before because of his work in ads and such. She treated him like her child, and doted on him, and then had to try and kill him and beg the police to kill him.

I think it's all pretty tragic all the way around.

[LostinVA]

84. Exactly -- +1

[progressivebydesign]

89. thanks... this story just makes me hopelessly sad all the way around. n/t

[LostinVA]

90. Me too

The victim, who's dead even if she lives, at the hand of a pet she had known and liked for 14 years (and who had liked her); the chimp, who crawled back into his room in his house to die, after being stabbed and shot, and even the owner, trying to find family love. It's just horrible. I keep think of the victim's teenaged daughter, too.

It's upset me very, very much.

And, damn the City of Stamford. They could have settled this years ago.

[hlthe2b]

92. ditto....

It is a study in Pathos, as the Greeks would say, with far less compassion being expressed than one would hope.

No winners, only incredibly tragic losers in this.

[FedUpWithIt All]

100. That poor woman may not recover from this whole affair.

It is just horrible.

[JCMach1]

85. She bathed with the chimp and it would brush her hair...

The lady who was attacked was apparently a same-sex 'partner'...

Can you say bizarre love triangle?

[Sancho]

86. Bestiality is legal in Florida...

at least there is no law or penalty against it.


:puke:

[kentuck]

91. I think it was symbolic.

The chimp is dead. The Chimp is gone. The Chimp will not be investigated or charged. Any hope for justice is gone with the dead chimp.

[arcadian]

97. I thought all these chimp stories were about Bush

This is the first one I've clicked on.

[backscatter712]

99. Bush is at least as dangerous and vicious.

The chimp metaphor continues to deliver...

[Cleita]

102. What shocked me was that the owner slept with the chimp. n/t

[OwnedByFerrets]

105. Im sure Im not alone in believe that the chimp was jealous.

This poor animal had been treated like a husband/child and was jealous of the friend. Just my opinion.

[JVS]

107. I can't believe that I'm the first one to rec this thread!

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

113. I'm rec 3, because this thread is full of win!

[Bluebear]

111. Good gravy.

[rollingrock]

114. Why did she choose a male chimp over a female one?

This should be an obvious question no one seems to be asking.

Aren't the female chimps much less likely to be aggressive and violence-prone then the males?

It's crazy enough to have a chimp of any sex for a pet, but I think its doubly crazy when that chimp is a MALE.

[LostinVA]

117. Some of you have seriously jumped the shark

[Bluebear]

118. Careful, they'll associate your post with some shark lovin'

[LostinVA]

127. I always buy my Great White the best chum

[mitchum]

115. Get your damn dirty mind off of me!

[Name removed]

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[LostinVA]

128. Disgusting excuse for a post -- you need to self-examine

[ShortnFiery]

131. You know, even CHIMPANZEES can *sense* that a woman over 55 y.o. (post-menopausal)

is NOT, in any way, shape or form, MATING MATERIAL. :eyes:

The folks here who are playing up the sex angle ... well ya just may consider that you have other issues that may need to be addressed, in private?

[Midlodemocrat]

132. This thread has amazing potential.

:thumbsup:

[AZBlue]

135. Wow. DU just isn't nearly what it used to be.

[blondeatlast]

138. Holy mother of pearl--this thread is effing insane.

:wow:

[flvegan]

139. Great. The Chimp Whisperer is in the house.

How grand.

[blondeatlast]

141. ...

:thumbsup::rofl:

[readmoreoften]

140. I don't care what she did or didn't do with her pet chimp. Don't we have bigger problems?

I mean really. I could not care one iota less.