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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:22 AM
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"Most Powerful Single Black Individual That's Ever Walked Planet" - Historian Puts Obama In Context
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"The Most Powerful Single Black Individual That’s Ever Walked Planet Earth" -- Historian Puts Obama in Context
By Amy Goodman, Democracy Now!. Posted February 17, 2009.

Ali Marzui, a giant in African studies, explains Obama's unprecedented rise to power.

The following is an excepted transcript of an interview with historian Ali Mazrui, from Democracy Now! by Amy Goodman.

Goodman: We turn now to our next guest, an intellectual giant in African studies for the past four decades. ... I’m talking about the Kenyan-born, Pan-Africanist thinker Ali Mazrui. He is Albert Schweitzer Professor in Humanities and the director of the Institute of Global Cultural Studies at State University of New York, Binghamton. Born in Mombasa in Kenya in 1933, Dr. Mazrui studied in Manchester, New York, and Oxford, then became a professor in Uganda, in 1973 forced into exile by the Ugandan dictator Idi Amin, and has taught in the United States as well as at institutions around the world. ... It is great to have you with us. ... This is the hundredth anniversary of the birth of Kwame Nkrumah, the founding president of Ghana. It’s also the time of the election of the first black president of the United States, his father from Kenya, Barack Obama. I heard you speak yesterday at the International Studies Association in New York, and you said it’s bigger than that for Barack Obama.

Mazrui: Yes, indeed. Barack Obama is setting a precedent not just for the United States, but for the entire Western world. In none of the countries in the Western world with a white majority population has there been an election to install a head of state or a head of government who was black.

Goodman: You’re saying he’s the first black president of the Western Hemisphere?

Mazrui: And of the Western world. That is, including Europe, not just the Western Hemisphere, but the Western world as a whole, because we keep on wondering when we’ll have a black president of France, for example, although there’s been progress in appointing ministers who are from Africa or from the world of color. And then, a black prime minister of Great Britain would be very nice, and I’m sure it will happen, not necessarily in my lifetime, but probably in yours or in the lifetime of my children. And then, even more surprising, but -- historically, but perfectly understandable in modern terms, a black chancellor of Germany, and that will take a while. But I’m sure because of Barack Obama breaking that original taboo in the Western world about appointing as heads of states people who are not of European extraction, it opens other doors around the Western world as well as the Western Hemisphere.

And then, Barack Obama, himself, becomes the most powerful single black individual in the history of civilization, you know? There’s never been a person in control of the resources which the United States has, of the creative and destructive powers that the United States has. We’ve had great individuals in African history, like Menelik II of Ethiopia or Ramesses II of Egypt or even a more recent one like Kwame Nkrumah. Those were powerful within their countries or their regions. They were not globally powerful in the sense in which a president of the United States is. So he’s easily the most powerful single black individual that’s ever walked planet earth. And that’s a major breakthrough in race relations.

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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:26 AM
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1. You're an IDIOT to point talk about whether he's "black, white, brown, yellow, or purple"
GET OVER IT! (most everyone else has ALREADY!)

Peace,
M_Y_H
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:28 AM
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2. (facepalm)
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:35 AM
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5. and that means what?
I'm 'OLD' :rofl: I need my kids to translate.....

Wha? Wha? Spell it out for me.... A good airing/open discussion is an enpowering thing. Sometimes the "cool kids" have to let the intellectual 'nerds' in.....so that we can together 'settle this score' that we both agree upon.

Something like that ;-)
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:55 AM
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9. here ya go... Urban Dictionary definition of facepalm
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:30 AM
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3. Um... "African Studies"
It's his job...
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:38 AM
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6. You serial?
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:30 AM
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15. Silly
you weren't supposed to talk MLK's dream at face value... that's just lip service for the ideal of racial balkanization, legislated preferences, and the continued power of those who profit from racial strife.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:34 AM
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4. You forgot Jesus


:hide:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:42 AM
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7. beat me to it
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:48 AM
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8. We're talking about non-fiction here.
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 04:48 AM by BlooInBloo
EDIT: Otherwise, Shaft would win. :P
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:09 AM
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12. LOL
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 09:13 AM
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10. Arguably it's Clarence Thomas
Presidential policies may change... their terms end... and their initiatives are dependent on Congress. Pelosi looks to be the more powerful of the two right now, she got more of what she wanted out of Obama's stimulus bill than he did. Meanwhile, SC seats are for-life, their decisions non-reviewable.

I think if Obama could swap jobs with Thomas he'd do it in a heartbeat. Maybe if for no other reason than to no longer be compelled to answer to the media.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:12 AM
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14. You make an excellent point
I think SC justice is the plumb job of them all too.

You get to effect the workings of our country for decades.

Don
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:06 AM
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11. Jules



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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 10:11 AM
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13. WRONG!!!
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