Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Anti-Gay Televangelist T.D. Jakes' Son Busted For Public Gay Sex

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 08:42 PM
Original message
Anti-Gay Televangelist T.D. Jakes' Son Busted For Public Gay Sex
If Jermaine Jakes is "broken", we all know who broke him. Always, always, always - behind these public haters is the sad personal story of one of our own, either the hater himself or somebody close to him. No schadenfreude for T.D. Jakes here, just pity for his son....

http://www.joemygod.blogspot.com/

====

The son of T.D. Jakes — the Dallas megachurch pastor who’s called homosexuality a “brokenness” and declared that he would never hire a sexually active gay person — was arrested in a gay sex sting in Kiest Park in January, according to Dallas police reports.

Jermaine Donnell Jakes, 29, faces a charge of indecent exposure after allegedly exposing himself in front of two undercover vice detectives shortly after 10 p.m. on Jan. 3. Senior Cpl. Janice Crowther, a DPD spokeswoman, confirmed Thursday, Feb. 12 that the detectives were both male.

According to an arrest affidavit, the detectives were conducting an investigation into citizen complaints of sexual activity when they observed Jakes and several other unknown males park their vehicles in the lot east of the park at 2106 W. Kiest Blvd.

The detectives followed Jakes into a wooded area, where he approached them with his penis exposed through his unzipped pants, the affidavit states. Jakes masturbated for several seconds while making eye contact with one of the detectives.

Jakes made no attempt to conceal his penis despite people walking and jogging on a trail nearby, the affidavit states. According to court records, Jermaine Jakes listed his place of employment as T.D. Jakes Ministries. Jakes was released at the scene after being detained.

T.D. Jakes is the founder of the Potters House, a 30,000-member church in South Dallas. A vocal opponent of same-sex marriage, he’s been criticized by HIV/AIDS activists for undermining prevention of the disease by stigmatizing homosexuality and drug use.

On same-sex marriage, Jakes once told USA Today: “To date, I have not seen scriptural authority that allows me to stand on behalf of God and say I now pronounce you husband and husband, and wife and wife. This is an issue the government is undecided about. The Bible is not.”

http://www.dallasvoice.com/artman/publish/article_10636.php

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 08:47 PM
Response to Original message
1. gives a whole meaning to the term "beat cop"
I would not want that sting
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. I would not want to be a child scorned by his parents as this man is
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. are you more concerned with this "child's" behavior or who his father is
'cuz if someone whips his dick out and starts wanking it in front of strangers, at age 29, he is responsible for it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. I'm not surprised that your first thought would go to the poor cop who had this assignment
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:13 PM
Response to Original message
3. Sex in a public park in January???
Nothing could be more unappealing. Even sex in an airport toilet sounds better.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. He was taught that that was his only outlet for his sexuality, out in the cold.
:(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:58 AM
Response to Reply #4
39. Perfect analogy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. Wow - that's a tough call.
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:25 AM
Response to Reply #3
35. January in Dallas
Where it very well could have been 75 degrees at the time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 05:53 AM
Response to Reply #35
45. I was there on Jan 2-3 and it WAS 75°
Fahrenheit, anyway!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #45
49. LOL--I guess global warming has a few perks, at least for some
I remember now it was unseasonably warm around that time. I guess the public sex fans were waiting for their chance to ply their fetish.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #49
55. I wish they would send some over here
Central Europe is being its usual cold and dreary self!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:22 PM
Response to Original message
5. i believe jesus would`t care what he was
and i do believe jesus would have an issue with his father.

they expect others to see the world through their eyes not the eyes of jesus.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:25 PM
Response to Original message
6. He grew up in a household where he knew being who he truly was wasn't acceptable.....
..... so he resorts to clandestine sex in a public space.

This really burns me. I watched one of my best friends in college live this exhausting dual life because his family (ultra-conservative Christians who'd moved to Ann Arbor from rural W. Virginia) would have disowned him completely if they'd found out he was gay.
NOBODY should have to choose between living openly and happily AND maintaining a relationship with their family. And incidents like the one with TD Jakes' son seem to happen with a good bit of frequency among families headed by religious bigots, n'est-ce pas?


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #6
11. Yet, see post 7
This guy was taught he was bound for hell and unacceptable, yet he has a physiological urge that he can't stop... he is taught to hide, forbidden to marry who he would love, and STILL people con't understand how the resulting crime happens.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. I was going to respond to #7....but I get the feeling it would go on and on and never get anywhere.
And honestly, the only way that a lot of people are really going to "get it" is to have a close friend or family member who is gay and living through the same thing. I've always fancied myself an ultra open-minded, pro-gay straight guy, but I don't think I really "got it" until I vicariously experienced my friend Steve's life. It was an eye-opener and a life-changer.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #6
18. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 02:40 AM
Response to Reply #6
40. strange that people can't see the connection
Of course it is hideous that people are forced to live a double life, or to choose between who they are and acceptance from their family, and it is disturbing to see the lack of compassion from so many here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:29 PM
Response to Original message
10. Ooo-Whoopsy!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:29 PM
Response to Original message
12. Living on the down-low
because guilt his daddy heaps on him.

I hope this situation will free him from those chains and that he can find himself because of it.
I also hope this will bring down the house on Jakes' hypocrisy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:30 PM
Response to Original message
13. My heart breaks for this young man
to live with a parent who tries to shame you for who you are is an awful thing.

I'm also so sorry that it came out this way, before he may have been ready to have his personal life blasted to the world.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
remoulade Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:33 PM
Response to Original message
14. Does T.D. stand for Terrible Dad?
It sure sounds like he is one.
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:38 PM
Response to Original message
15. My sympathy for the son, not as much for the father
I cannot imagine for the life of me the torturous life that young man has gone through. I am sorry he ended up in this predicament.

As for his father, I am not so empathetic. As a "man of God" he is supposed to teach loving everyone, as is the Christian philosophy. He picked and chose what he wanted to believe from the Bible, but the part about homosexuality, oops, includes his son. Tight fit, T.D. !

I think T.D. needs to come to terms about the homophobia he preaches and finds a way to bring healing and acceptance in the relationship between he and his son.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. Get....Out !!
what will this do to Dr Phil ? He Loves and promotes T. D. every chance he gets! That son I feel sorry for he was prob. turned into a perv cause he couldn't be himself Too Bad, So Sad.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #17
30. Since I don't watch Dr. Phil much -- ewww!
But it would make for an interesting show.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:07 PM
Response to Original message
19. kharma
is a bitch.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:12 PM
Response to Original message
20. i LOVE these stories..
and on today of all days,a valentine for me!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:13 PM
Response to Original message
21. I believe there is an interesting story
as to why T. D. Jakes left his original home and came to Dallas. Investigating that would be quite interesting..............
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:18 PM
Response to Original message
22. I get that society is disdainful of folks waiving their wieners in public.
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 10:31 PM by saltpoint
I get that.

I do question why tax dollars are spent dispatching undercover cops to parks to catch people having sex, inasmuch as I consider public deceit a graver transgression than public lust.

The vice squad mentality insists on a disproportional level of attention to sex in public parks. If our society disapproves of guys fiddling their dongs in public parks it should even more disapprove of paying cops to go to said parks to entrap them.

The equation is juicier in the media because Jakes is a high-profile "Christian."

I distrust mega-church pastors almost right out of the gate.

I think Bluebear's analysis of this matter in this thread is right-on.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. P.S. The new moniker suits you!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. Hey there, Bluebear.
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 10:31 PM by saltpoint
Thank you.

And your insight, clarity, and good heart continue to lift DU.

Happy Valentine's Day.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #22
28. blue bear understands
and you understand how few tax dollars are around these days
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:20 PM
Response to Original message
23. Maybe it's schadenfruede
But it seems that if you're antigay, it's almost guaranteed you will have a close gay relative. and that relative will somehow make the news.

Maybe there is a God. And maybe she's trying to tell some people something.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:40 PM
Response to Original message
26. Oops! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:54 PM
Response to Original message
27. TD Jakes books are everywhere. He's involved with those feel good movies also.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:56 PM
Response to Original message
29. That reminds me, I need to pick up some baby carrots and gherkins.
But really I feel sorry for this young man. His sexuality, a part of who he is, has been condemned within his household all of his life. No wonder he was acting out publicly like that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:23 PM
Response to Original message
31. OMG!!!! Get outta here!!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:24 PM
Response to Original message
32. Why would I not be surprised if he did this in public just to let his Christian pastor/father
feel the love?

I cannot even begin to imagine how alone and unloved one must feel when his/her own father talks about people like him/her as if they are the spawn of some demon.

If there is a hell, I hope there is a special place there for the likes of T.D. Jackass.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. Ministers like Jakes always forget the verse, 'judge not, lest ye be
judged.'
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:26 AM
Response to Reply #34
36. Amen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:40 PM
Response to Original message
33. I still think those "stings" are so wrong.
Damn the society we live in.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:52 AM
Response to Original message
37. I'm kind of more concerned by the Time cover.
Edited on Sun Feb-15-09 12:53 AM by HughBeaumont
Not only for the laughable "Can Bush Save the Economy", but the date of September 17, 2001, indicating it was already on the stands despite the events 6 days prior. Turns out Bewsh couldn't successfully save a booger falling out of his nose, much less the economy . . . or America . . . or the planet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 03:13 AM
Response to Reply #37
41. Street dates on a news magazine are several days after their actual publication and distribution
The Sept 17th issue probably shipped on the 10th.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 01:42 AM
Response to Original message
38. It'd be great to see a huge outpouring of public sympathy and support for Jermaine...
and disdain for his abusive father.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:02 AM
Response to Reply #38
42. How did his father abuse him?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 09:12 AM
Response to Reply #42
47. I'd say that making a kid feel bad about being gay constitutes abuse.
Maybe it was abuse borne of ignorance; but it's still abuse.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #47
52. I thought you were making a legal accusation not your opinion, sorry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #52
53. No prob...
:toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:13 AM
Response to Original message
43. Bishop T.D. Jakes' full statement
From the http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/DN-jakestext_15met.ART.Central.Edition1.4c39375.html">Dallas Morning News:

12:00 AM CST on Sunday, February 15, 2009

As parents, we occasionally feel that our children do not live up to our highest and best ideals. When they do not, we don't diminish our love for them as recompense for our disapproval. Like our children, we also are not infallible nor do we profess to be. Our now adult son Jermaine is 29, but when he was at home he was a recipient of correction, compassion and wise counsel. We hope that the light of what we believe will guide him through times of contradiction and moments of concern as he continues to mature.

In spite of the family pain we feel from this unfortunate situation, it has given us a chance to show him the same help, support, and restorative grace for which our family and church is noted. Through our ministry at The Potter's House, as well as our own home, we have for years offered help in the time of need to all adults, our five children and other people's children.

It is in moments like these that I am so grateful that we do not preach that we are the solution, but we look to Christ for resolution. So then, as a very human family with real issues, like many other people, we will draw from the same well of grace to which we have led others to drink and be refreshed...


Translation: "It's not our fault. We tried to Jesus the gay out of him but it just didn't work. Now that he's publicly embarrassed us, we guess that whole disowning-him-because-he-wouldn't-conform thing is off.

PS: Donate to our ridiculously profitable church and pay no attention to our hypocrisy"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 04:32 AM
Response to Original message
44. So saddening.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 05:59 AM
Response to Original message
46. public masturbation: the perfect term for tel-evangelism
poetic, even
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 09:20 AM
Response to Original message
48. Let's see if his pal Dr. Phil does a show about it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 08:37 PM
Response to Original message
50. Looks like it's "re-education camp" for him!
Time to "pray away the gay" because he embarrassed Dad!

:mad:

If this young man was allowed to be who he really was, he wouldn't have to solicit men in public parks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
George_Bailey Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 08:39 PM
Response to Original message
51. Brokenness Mountain
...cumming to a theater near you.

JP
http://welcomebacktopottersville.blogspot.com/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 09:51 PM
Response to Original message
54. Oh, he's the guy behind the Potter's House!
We have a small one of those out here. A number of us used to enjoy poking their sidewalk evangelists in the eye by calling it "Harry Potter's House". :evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 08:48 AM
Response to Original message
56. I feel so badly for people raised in homes that make them despise who they are.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 09:36 AM
Response to Original message
57. Yes, sympathy for the son. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 03:06 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC