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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:26 AM
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Geithner's plan is doomed to fail ........
..... because I like it.

I am as far from a financial maven as can be found. I am, however, in business.

I like what I am hearing.

Maybe its just the framing. He's calling out the former noodnicks who got us here.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:29 AM
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1. Did you see that the Dow has dropped 100 sicne he started speaking
Someone else pointed this out in another thread. Jeez. :(
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:31 AM
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2. Yes, I commented to Sparkly about that
I actually think the Dow is disconnected, in many ways, from what happens elsewhere right now. People are **still** making money there. I think what is happening right now is they are driving it down to buy cheap and then it will go up ..... maybe even as soon as today or tomorrow.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:32 AM
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3. Hopefully we don't allow the DOW to influence policy
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:33 AM
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4. Uh, you know...
that's pretty much what this bailout is in the first place...
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marketcrazy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:36 AM
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7. the market was expecting
a comprehensive plan to be announced, what they got was a plan to make a plan with details to follow in coming weeks?? and a cost of trillions?
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:34 AM
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It must be a very labor oriented plan then....Dow Steet hates
ANYTHING that helps middle america and labor.
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JFKfanforever Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:35 AM
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6. Yes, I noticed the drop in the Dow...
If he cannot calculate his taxes properly without making a
"mistake" or two, how can we trust him to calculate
the impact of yet another bailout of banks which have grossly
abused TARP I?
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:37 AM
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8. err, he blamed his tax problems on Turbo Tax
Of COURSE it was the software that caused the problem. :sarcasm: :rofl:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:38 AM
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9. He didn't make a mistake on his taxes.
He cheated on his taxes.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:41 AM
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10. Down 300 now....
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:47 AM
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13. If the Stock Market doesn't like it, it must be good for the American public and not so good...
for the fat cats/CEOs/big 'feeding from the taxpayers' trough' corporations.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 01:30 PM
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16. If it scares the robber barons...
...it may not be all bad.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:34 AM
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5. All I heard from him was "Give Me Your Money NOW! Give it TO ME!"
It thought he was dreadful.... I wouldn't trust him with my piggy bank. :eyes:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:44 AM
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11. Ask for more than you want...
when they compromise the total, he will end up with what he wanted... He is not a very credible Treasury Secretary. I would have preferred Robert Reich in his position.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:45 AM
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12. Well
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 11:46 AM by BootinUp
I thought his presentation was fine, but its pretty clear there isn't a quick fix to this humongous turd economy that Bush left. The stock market must have been hoping for a convincing fairy tale as it is now falling like a rock in a vacuum.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:52 AM
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14. What pisses me off most is that it might work
And what I mean by that, is it's a lot like the Baker Latin American debt plan in that it drafts the private sector investors to turn things around.

That means that they stand to make enormous profits.

The nationalization of the banks should be taken to its logical conclusion and when the situation turns around, the profits should accrue to the American taxpayer, not hedge funds.
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marketcrazy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 12:55 PM
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15. I hear you HamdenRice
if this goes down the way I am hearing hedge funds will be the big winners, with the FED/Treasury financing these "private" investments with non recourse loans the hedge funds could reap 200+ percent yearly returns with almost zero risk! and when the bottom falls out tax payers via the treasury will assume the lions share of any losses..
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