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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:26 PM
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WHAT the heck is a Frank Sinatra Republican?
Their new RNC chair said "we have to change! I want Frank Sinatra Republicans." I'm old enough to remember Sinatra, but I have no idea what the heck a Sinatra Pub is???
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:28 PM
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1. WW-II era
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 03:28 PM by ThomWV
He was a teen idol back in the day, an old people's superstar later.
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:29 PM
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2. O' Blue Eyes was a Democrat, until . . .
. . . he was snubbed (in his opinion) by JFK at an event. He then embraced the Rethugs.
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 05:28 PM
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27. So he was part of the "whinny titty-baby" wing of the party.
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 05:28 PM by Hassin Bin Sober
Now we know what the RNC chair is referring to.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:49 PM
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34. That pretty much describes the whole party, doesn't it? (eom)
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:29 PM
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3. Frank Sinatra was a Democrat before Atty. Gen . Kennedy
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 03:30 PM by cyclezealot
Kennedy went after organized crime. Sinatra's sensitivities could not withstand that connection. Was Sinatra connected to the Italian mafia?.. After Bobby Kennedy, he switched to the crooked GOP.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:30 PM
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4. I hope he's not referring to the movie "Suddenly"
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:57 PM
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32. Excellent movie.
:thumbsup:
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:31 PM
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5. Someone who does it his way?
Someone who runs with a Pack of Rats?
Someone with mob connections?
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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:31 PM
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7. someone who says
SOMETHING STUPID

mebbe?
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:31 PM
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6. Frankie was involved with the Democratic party for years ...
from Wikipedia ...

In January, 1961, Sinatra and Peter Lawford organized the Inaugural Gala in Washington, D.C., held on the evening before new President John F. Kennedy was sworn into office. The event, featuring many big show business stars, was an enormous success, raising a large amount of money for the Democratic Party. Sinatra also organized an Inaugural Gala in California in 1962 to welcome second term Democratic Governor Pat Brown.

Sinatra's move towards the Republicans seems to have begun when he was snubbed by President Kennedy in favour of Bing Crosby, a rival singer and a Republican, for Kennedy's visit to Palm Springs in 1962. Kennedy had planned to stay at Sinatra's home over the Easter holiday weekend, but decided against doing so because of problems with Sinatra's connections to organized crime. Sinatra had invested a lot of his own money in upgrading the facilities at his home, in anticipation of the president's visit. President Kennedy's brother, Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, was intensifying his own investigations into organized crime figures at the time, such as Chicago mob boss Sam Giancana, who had earlier stayed at Sinatra's home. The President and Giancana were also sharing the favours of mistress Judith Campbell, who was in frequent contact with the president. Giancana's under-the-table influence had been critical in capturing Illinois for the Democrats in the presidential election of 1960.


...

I would think he means get people to switch from Dem to Repug by getting them to dislike Obama. :shrug:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sinatra#Political_activities_1944-1968
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:37 PM
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19. Wouldn't that be the same as a Ronald Reagan republican? n/t
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:37 PM
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20. Sinatra was involved with Nancy Reagan too
...if you believe Kitty Kelly.

The National Review said the rumors were probably false.....if you believe the National Review.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:33 PM
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8. Well, don't Republicans get under your skin?
Frank Sinatra: I've Got You under My Skin

Except GOPers get under your skin like chiggers do...
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the_chinuk Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:42 PM
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9. another meanngless symbol from a party besotted with meaningless symbols
What is a Frank Sinatra Republican?

It's the same as a Cell Phone Beefstick.

It's the same as Mary Kay Cosmetics getting the Atom Bomb.

it's yet another symbol from a party that's as addicted to glib meaningless symbology as a tweaker is to crystal.

It says nothing and means less.

Hey, I long for the days of the smoke-filled lounge-lined Strip and the smooth Rat Pack in slender black suits and skinny black ties, but as a political metaphor it's like writing the Constitution in Crayola.

And that's a metaphor you can believe in!
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:45 PM
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13. That should be it's own OP.
:thumbsup:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:42 PM
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10. A republican who uses cocaine
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:43 PM
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11. I guess he means Democrats turning into Repubs. Not likely to happen.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:43 PM
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12. why did`t he did`t bring up sammy davis jr....


sorry i could`t resist. i really doubt sammy was a republican.


it goes to show just how far out of touch the republicans are in this country...sinatra as a role model
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:30 PM
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16. Sammy hugged everybody
Many democrats and many republicans. He even hugged me.
dc
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:48 PM
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14. frank was a huge JFK supporter. he was going to spend a night at this special guest house frank was
having built just for him.

but bobby nixed the visit over sinatras alleged mob ties, and jfk went to liek bing crosby's instead.

frank got furious and voted rethug ever since.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 03:52 PM
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15. Sinatra sang the "Kennedy" campaign song.
Can't find it, but the lyrics mainly consist of "Kennedy," as in "Kennedy Kennedy Kennedy..." for a full minute.

He also did the Kennedy version of "High Hopes"

Here he is singing it:
http://www.videosurf.com/video/high-hopes-1960-kennedy-campaign-song-12000903

Everyone is voting for Jack.
'Cause he's got what all the rest lack.
Everyone wants to back, Jack.
Jack is on the right track.
'Cause he's got High Hopes!
He's got High Hopes!
1960's the year for his High Hopes!
Come on and vote for Kennedy.
Vote for Kennedy,
and we'll come out on top!
Oops! There goes the opposition
Kerplock!
K-E-Double N-E-D-Y
Jack's the nation's favorite guy.
Everyone wants to back, Jack.
Jack is on the right track.
'Cause he's got High Hopes!
He's got High Hopes!
1960's the year for his High Hopes!
Come on and vote for Kennedy.
Vote for Kennedy.
Keep America strong.
Kennedy, he just keeps rollin' along!
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:33 PM
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17. Er, dead?
Okay, I guess that'll work. Not sure how he'll get the dead to vote but it wouldn't be the first time such has happened or been attempted.

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:33 PM
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18. I don't know, but if there's a "Jerry Garcia Democrat", I'm one of 'em.
:hippie:
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:39 PM
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21. "Strangers In The Night" comes to mind. Nothing stranger than a repug...n/t
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:39 PM
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22. Maybe they're looking for more organized crime connections? n/t
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:41 PM
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23. They Sing...
but only after indictment.

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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:42 PM
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24. Wait. I think I get it
he means a celebrity. There aren't too many celebs id'ing with the Rep. N P lately.
dc
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 05:15 PM
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25. I think that they already have plenty of short-tempered jerks with ties to organized crime
I guess they want more
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 05:24 PM
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26. Not too surprising, a Republic looking backward.
I think that's great.

He's looking to the past to re-build the future of a political party that is desperately trying to remain relevant, has literally not one new idea, cannot recruit anyone born after Reagan was president, by referring to a singer/actor that's been dead longer than half the people in this country have been alive.

What a political genius.
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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:58 PM
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33. I agree
It's great.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 05:28 PM
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28. One with connections to The Mob?
does that mean most of them then...?
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 05:30 PM
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29. I guess it means they hang out with mobsters
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:31 PM
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30. They ARE mobsters. Honest, hardworking mobsters won't associate with them.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:56 PM
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31. Uh, one who got into a flame/"family"/cortel WAR with tha other guys?!1
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