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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:51 PM
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Kucinich is ROCKING on health care!
Edited on Sat Mar-24-07 02:16 PM by IndyOp
Cutting through the bullshit about "universal health care" - if even the health care companies are for "universal health care" perhaps we ought to THINK about that...

Government subsidizing the pharmaceutical companies = Medicare Part D.

Now, most Dem candidates are talking about "universal health care" -- subsidizing the health care industry...

Single-payer now!

Kucinich walked on stage to tepid applause and got some really warm applause as he was speaking...

:thumbsup:


On edit: To clarify the welcome was tepid, as a little-known candidate, and the audience warmed up a LOT once he started talking.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:56 PM
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1. Edward's on healthcare, may not pass Congress
http://johnedwards.com/about/issues/health-care/20070306-wp/

but if it doesn't, states will end up doing SinglePayer on their own, making the issue moot for later on and R's will kill it in Congress (or try to anyway).

Insurance co's and big pharma have cut their noses off to spite their face and greed has killed the goose that laid the golden egg for them. Pity.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 02:03 PM
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2. States doing single-payer on their own will take a long time, many people
will suffer.

Edwards' plan - which he described at the Center for American Progress debate that is still going on now - includes:
(1.) letting people stick with the policy they have now,
(2.) subsidizing certain businesses to provide health care to teir employees, and
(3.) a single-payer plan similar to the federal employees plan.

Options #1 and #2 are a form of subsidizing private health care companies.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 02:53 PM
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4. It's an expensive multi tiered system. Like we already have. I'm disappointed in it
as a plan.

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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 04:23 PM
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5. Expensive to who? Certainly not the vast majority of folks who would get the insurance. (nt)
Edited on Sat Mar-24-07 04:23 PM by w4rma
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 05:09 PM
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6. Expensive for everybody. Wasteful. And a two tiered system.We should
go to single payer to insure that everybody gets the same high quality healthcare. It's just paid for through a public single payer enity.

Congress could get the same plan as everyone else. We are already spending more than enough money to insure everyone under a single payer plan.

With a single payer fee for service plan you save on overhead and profit of private companies. As a single payer you can negotiate substancial savings for drugs and equipment and fees.

We can spend much more and get much less. Or we can change. More of the same isn't going to work. We need single payer fee for service health care.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:17 PM
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9. Video of Dennis is here:
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 02:23 AM
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11. Thanks. Progressives got to pull our party back left so we are centered.
We've seen our party tilted way far to the right, all the privitization and global corporatization of everything from health care to water and food is anti-democratic to an extreme.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 02:09 PM
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3. Hopefully this will wake more people up.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 05:35 PM
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7. Universal Health is going to happen and nothing
can stop it because the reality is Healthcare in America is bankrupting us all
the Greed must stop
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 06:42 PM
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8. Universal health with attempts to drive down costs will happen - but will it be single payer?
Single payer with the option of people who want to buying more coverage is fine with me, but everyone should be in the same pool with the same basic health services.

Universal, single-payer health care...
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:18 PM
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10. VIDEO IS UP! Kucinich - the ONLY candidate for non-profit, single payer system!
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