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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:51 PM
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Can we stop calling it "laid off" or "let go", or "downsized"?
The correct term is "shit canned" or maybe "given the axe", but more accurately "FUCKED". I doubt that we will ever hear M$NBC say, "Today 40 thousand people were shit canned, and left to fend for themselves".

I do not know of anyone who has ever been "laid on" or called back from a lay off. It sounds more palatable to give the impression that maybe sometime in the future you might get your job back, but today I doubt that we will see any of it.

On a daily basis we are hearing of tens of thousands who are having their necks cut all in the name of capitalism. CEO's are keeping their jets and golden toilets, but the backbone of this land is learning that are all alone.

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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:53 PM
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1. The correct term is laid off.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:56 PM
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8. in this economy is anyone getting called back?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:56 PM
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12. Doesn't change the fact that it is the correct terminology.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:59 PM
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13. they used to call it a lay off here at the paper plant when they planned on bringing them back
but I dont see any company even entertaining the idea of bringing anyone back.

I appreciate the proper terminology, but it is being used against the true spirit of the word.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:00 PM
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15. Sorry, but to me it sounds like you are wanting the media to show a bias
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:13 PM
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24. Well, PTSD used to be known as Shell Shock.
Laid Off sounds so relaxing...

:sarcasm:
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:45 PM
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30. no it is not
my husband's job was eliminated in July of this year. The press all called it a layoff, except the job is not coming back, and has been replaced by a non-benefited contract worker. This after 17 years and numerous awards for performance, glowing reviews, and constant sacrifice on his part.

We saw the ad on Craig's list, and called the temp agency to find out the details, and yes, as heartbreaking as it was to us, it was his job.
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:53 PM
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2. Eh, I hear "shitcanned" and I think "fired." Laid off is better than let go or downsized, however.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:53 PM
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3. I propose the term "Bushed"
Dual duty of framing and being more descriptive than laid-off.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:55 PM
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7. Or "Bush-whacked"
Today, Acme Industries reported that 3,333 employees will be Bush-whacked
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:53 PM
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4. Actually, workers sometimes do get called back from a layoff, but
I hear what you're saying loud and clear, Brother.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:54 PM
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5. In the tech word we call it "getting killed"
As in "Tom from Engineering got killed today"

Never was killed, but simply got killed
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nykym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:55 PM
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6. I always liked the
British term, made redundant.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:56 PM
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9. Don't they also use "sacked?" (nt)
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:00 PM
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14. Ah the British...
They are such a civilized lot. B-)
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:56 PM
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10. Well, why not call it "Bushed?"
This is his true legacy, the misery of an entire country full of ordinary citizens who, if the worst hasn't yet happened, know it's right around the corner and their jobs are on the chopping block next.

I've been calling bounced checks "Reagans" for over two decades. For a while, I thought the foreclosure notice/placard in the window of an abandoned house could be called a "Bush," but it now seems more appropriate to use it as a word to describe being labeled a nonperson by the commercial world.

That, of course, doesn't preclude labeling shanty towns and squats "Bushville" in the future.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 12:56 PM
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11. I like to think of it as being "liberated."
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:01 PM
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16. "Unenjoyment"
Is what I called it in the 1990 recession. Sucked then, too.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:43 PM
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29. No, it's "FunEnjoyment"
Until your claim dries up.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:02 PM
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17. I've known auto-workers and one airline-employee who were called back
Some industries have been more into lay-off and call back than others.

Since 1959 when I became new-conscious I've seen recessions about every 4-6 years, and it seems that companies with an investment in the training of employees do call people back as the economy turns. Since Reagan years folks have looked for ways to avoid making training investments in their employees. It makes it easier to say good-bye forever.

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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:03 PM
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18. Being "laid off" is quite common around here. Re-hires at busy times happens often. nt
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:04 PM
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19. Oh, those terms aren't used much anymore.
There was "force reduction" for a while, but now there's "managing down head count" and "being allowed to pursue other career opportunities".
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:04 PM
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20. Bushwhacked!
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:04 PM
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21. "Fired" implies the person did something wrong...
or wasn't performing, etc. Laid off means they had to get rid of people because business was too slow.

I think my favorite pet-peeve euphamism is "Right-sized." Anybody remember that CEO-speak from the last recession?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:09 PM
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22. No. Those are the words our State-Controlled Media gave us to speak with, and we are permitted no
others.

Anyone who thinks the American M$M is free or independent or worth more than ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag, obviously hasn't been paying very close attention.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:10 PM
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23. There is a difference. Laid off or furloughed, a more correct term, means the
worker has a chance of getting hired back by the company if business picks up and that his firing had nothing to do with his competence. Your terms, while colloquially expressing the sentiments of the workers who are laid off, are hardly suitable for public pronouncements.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:14 PM
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25. kinda hard to be called back to a job when the company has gone belly up
Edited on Tue Jan-27-09 01:15 PM by Donnachaidh
Yet they called all the sackings a *lay off*. :shrug:
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Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:16 PM
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26. "Let go" has always been a ridiculous saying, implying that the person was wanting to leave
but couldn't until then.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:20 PM
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27. Okay, how about "rightsized"?
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:40 PM
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28. I hear you
They call it "laid off" where I work even though management has ZERO intention of ever bringing any of the "laid off" employees back. They're using the layoffs to get rid of people who don't toe the company line, imo, since the incompetent jackasses who suck up to management are invariably kept on.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:55 PM
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31. The Brits say "made redundant." n/t
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:41 PM
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32. "I do not know of anyone who has ever been "laid on" "
Well, let me introduce myself. My wife laid on me last night, and I am a happy man today :)
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