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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:47 PM
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Macs hit with BitTorrent-embedded malware attack
Source: Yahoo Tech

For years, Mac users have long been rightfully smug about their platform's relative immunity to virus and malware attacks, but it's inevitable that those days will eventually come to an end. (As the Mac gains in popularity, it also earns more attention from malware developers, and it's this lack of malware being actively developed, not some special, inherent security, that have really kept the Mac a "safe" platform for the time being.)

Now we're seeing one of the first moderately-sized exploits to take advantage of Mac users. The iServices.A Trojan horse is an attack being distributed via BitTorrent, where it's disguised as a bootleg copy of the new iWork 09. Once installed, the malware takes administrator access and connects to remote servers over the Internet, where it can be given additional instructions as the author commands, from installing additional malware to stealing information off the Mac in question. The malware creator can also take complete remote control of any compromised machine.

Read more: http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/117188



It was bound to happen.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:49 PM
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1. The Macintosh has been VIOLATED
VIOLATED I tell ya!

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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:50 PM
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2. They should buy a PC
See? It's just as STUPID a suggestion the other way round...

:P

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:52 PM
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4. Yup
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:57 PM
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10. exactly
:-)
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:11 PM
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23. Hahaha!
:rofl:
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:44 PM
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39. Or maybe just buy iWork 09 legally!
But you're right, platform wars are stupid. I use both OS-X and Windows XP, though admit to preferring OS-X for my own machines.
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trynotto_giveuphope Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:06 PM
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46. That's Why Ubuntu Rules!!!
Remember, there's always a third way.

One of the greatest advantages of the Ubuntu/Kubuntu Linux platform is that it is SUPER-EASY to install it on a PC that is already running Windows XP or Windows Vista. So, if you're ever unlucky enough to download a virus onto Windows, simply reboot into Ubuntu and then grab all your files off your hard drive. It's that easy.

It reminds me of that old commercial with Dick Van Dyke and the groundhog: you should always have two ways out.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:50 PM
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3. Their smugness was/is the height of stupidty, as the parenthetical sentence elaborates.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:53 PM
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7. wake me when I can get viruses from simply opening a web page
Or opening my email.

I'll wait....
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:14 PM
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24. Bwhahah! Exactly. Personally, I think this is more of a karma issue
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 03:15 PM by Atman
This is limited only to people who try to STEAL software via BitTorrent?

I STILL have nothing to worry about. Since the malware doesn't spread on its own, I'd simply call this bad karma for stealing.

.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:37 PM
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37. But that doesn't happen unless you have a PC.
Oh, wait... That was your point.


;-)


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TheHeathen Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:56 PM
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44. Gone in 2 minutes
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 04:05 PM by TheHeathen
"wake me when I can get viruses from simply opening a web page"

http://www.macworld.com/article/132733/2008/03/hack.html

It may be the quickest US$10,000 Charlie Miller ever earned.

He took the first of three laptop computers—and a $10,000 cash prize—Thursday after breaking into a MacBook Air at the CanSecWest security conference's PWN 2 OWN hacking contest.

Show organizers offered a Sony Vaio, Fujitsu U810 and the MacBook as prizes, saying that they could be won by anybody at the show who could find a way to hack into each of them and read the contents of a file on the system, using a previously undisclosed "0day" attack.

Nobody was able to hack into the systems on the first day of the contest when contestants were only allowed to attack the computers over the network, but on Thursday the rules were relaxed so that attackers could direct contest organizers using the computers to do things like visit Web sites or open e-mail messages.

The MacBook was the only system to be hacked by Thursday, however, the word on the show floor is that the Linux and Vista systems will meet with some serious challenges on Friday.

Miller, best known as one of the researchers who first hacked Apple's iPhone last year, didn't take much time. Within 2 minutes, he directed the contest's organizers to visit a Web site that contained his exploit code, which then allowed him to seize control of the computer, as about 20 onlookers cheered him on.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:37 PM
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50. I'm still asleep
demonstration hacks mean nothing. In the real world, while PC users spend $$$ and endless time on virus scans and software, I cruise along.

I've Owned macs for over 20 years and have never had one virus that didn't come from some infected PC, and then only by MS office files. I've had to wipe 2 PC's in the last 2 years because of crap/malware installed on them without my knowledge/assent.
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TheHeathen Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #50
51. Wake Up
You are having a dream.

:evilgrin:
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:52 PM
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5. But, but, but ... Macs are perfect and never get viruses ...
Steve Jobs YOU LIED TO ME!!!
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Ysabela Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:06 PM
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16. Macs don't get viruses.
Read the article. It's merely a social-engineering scam, tricking people into installing malware onto their computer. The person has to knowingly install this malware by going through numerous steps.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:09 PM
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21. That's exactly how most PC users get viruses
The old bait and switch on stolen or pirated software that really contains malware. Welcome to the real world, MAC users!

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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #21
61. I have to say as a bad bad girl, I am impressed with Vista's active protection...
Let's just say it does pop up fairly often regarding torrents.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:32 PM
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33. So the Mac users knowingly installed the malware?
Sounds like they got a virus to me.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:00 PM
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57. The end result is the same regardless of the details of the infection route
:hi:
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:52 PM
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6. Well...if you are stealing iWork....
You might expect these sorts of things. It's not that expensive and one can use a free trial copy for 30 days to see if it is worth it.


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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:55 PM
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8. Macs are still better
:D



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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:00 PM
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12. at gettting BitTorrent-embedded malware, yes.
:rofl:
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #12
34. Ha, i didn't download infected iWork....
so, kiss my Mac ass :evilgrin:


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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #34
38. I have Office 2004 and it works fine ...
none of this iWork junk.
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:50 PM
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42. I need to get that
What is iWork?
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. An Apple version of Word, Excel and PowerPoint
http://www.apple.com/iwork/

I want Office 2008, just to be up to date, but never had a problem with 2004, so I can wait.
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:59 PM
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45. Oh, thanks... now I remember
:D
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #8
25. I love my Mac.
I plan to get a Mac laptop in the near future.
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bdab1973 Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:28 PM
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29. WORD
I switched this summer...had PC-based computers since 1991. Last summer I bought a Macbook and never looked back. It was different at first getting used to the Mac OS, but I love it now and I'll never buy another PC...ever.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:55 PM
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9. Mac users have long been wrongfully smug
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 02:56 PM by Bleachers7
If they were smug, they were wrong. The Mac is naturally vulnerable. Why would anyone care when they have 2-3% market share? Now there's more impact.
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:34 PM
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35. Don't hate the player hate the game
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #9
62. How else can they justify the $$$$$
I have an iMac at work I run Boot Camp in XP mode 100% of the time
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 02:59 PM
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11. Richard Clark predicted this would never happen
<snip>
Richard Clarke says use a Macintosh for computer security

Spies in the system 27.09.2004 By PAUL BRISLEN
www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?
storyID=3594795&thesection=technology
&thesubsection=general&thesecondsubsection=

"Richard Clarke, the cyber-security adviser appointed by former US President Bill Clinton.
Clarke, who toured New Zealand recently, said he has managed to protect his computer from more than 99 per cent of all known viruses, worms, network attacks and spyware.
He runs an Apple, not a Microsoft PC, and says that does the job nicely."

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/212437_rsaclarke17.html
Thursday, February 17, 2005
Clarke rips Microsoft over security
Former White House adviser alludes to its vulnerabilities
By TODD BISHOP
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

SAN FRANCISCO -- Don't expect Richard Clarke to rely on Microsoft Corp.'s anti-virus or anti-spyware programs to protect his own computer. "Given their record in the security area, I don't know why anybody would buy from them," the former White House cybersecurity and counterterrorism adviser said yesterday, when asked for his thoughts on Microsoft's forthcoming line of security software.
The observation came during an impromptu interview on the sidelines of the RSA computer security conference in San Francisco, where Clarke took part in panel discussions with other experts in technological and national security.
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B o d i Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:01 PM
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13. So, a Mac user would have to manually install this and enter their admin password
before this compromised their computer at all?

Doesn't sound so scary, just don't go pirating executable apps, which is probably a good idea anyway.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:09 PM
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20. I agree
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 03:10 PM by high density
I am a PC guy in every sense of the definition, but I have to say this "attack" doesn't seem that convincing. It's not like surfing to a website and picking up a nice copy of XP Antivirus 2009.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:04 PM
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14. Linux > MacOS > Windows. -nt
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Ysabela Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:05 PM
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15. Misleading.
No one ever claimed Macs to be safe from social-engineering (tricking someone into installing the malware themselves), but Macs ARE safe from viruses, worms, etc.

The only way you can get this Malware is by deliberately installing it on your computer. And 99% of Mac owners aren't stupid enough to knowingly install malware on their comp.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. Even a semi-moron isn't stupid enough to knowingly install malware
Yet, lookee here..... plenty of Mac users did just that. lol.

:P
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:16 PM
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26. I guess I missed the part where the Mac users were told they were installing malware.
That would be stupid for anyone to do, IF they knowingly did it. So what is the score now for viruses and malware on PCs compared with Macs? Yeah, I thought so.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:20 PM
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27. hahaha... you noticed that too!
Pretty good for a MAC user. I'm so glad that fact didn't go over the heads of ALL Mac users. Now go comment on the posts in this thread by a MAC user to educate him on the fact that the people doing the installing DON'T know it's malware. I was using his example. Ok, I know it was a trick, but us PC users don't HAVE to be honest all the time, unlike you guys.

lol

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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:07 PM
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17. *yawn*
Wake me when I can get a virus by simply opening an email, logging onto a web site, or answering the wrong IM. A virus you can only get by tracking down, downloading and installing fake bootleg software that you shouldn't be stealing in the first place isn't a credible threat.
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TheHeathen Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:10 PM
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47. See post 44
Wake me when I can get a virus by simply opening an email, logging onto a web site, or answering the wrong IM
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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:08 PM
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19. download
unlicensed copies of software and you get what you paid for.

too fricking bad...PC or MAC
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:11 PM
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22. You mean mac users getting viruses from pirated software maliciously infected?
:eyes:

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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #22
36. Yes. What a SHOCK!
I thought that downloading illegal applications was perfectly safe.

What a FOOL I've been.

lol!
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demoborn47 Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:26 PM
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28. I still love my MAC
And still think PCs suck.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #28
53. Same here.
Never a problem with malware, but then again I'm not downloading crap.
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TheHeathen Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:30 PM
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30. A Mac OS X attack that leaves no trace
http://www.heise-online.co.uk/security/A-Mac-OS-X-attack-that-leaves-no-trace--/news/112481

Vincenzo Iozzo, an Italian security researcher, says he's discovered a new way to inject executable code directly into the memory of a Mac OS X machine without leaving any trace behind. That would make detection of an attack considerably more difficult.

Attackers normally leave files on the hard disk, such as their own code, and virus scanners can spot these. Iozzo's technique could be used to run a binary file entirely in the memory area of the program under attack, so that no change is made to the hard disk. It could also be used on an iPhone, which after all runs a modified version of Mac OS X.

Iozzo intends to present his discovery at the Black Hat security conference in February, and then publish a sample program written in C for Mac OS X 10.5.

http://www.oneitsecurity.it/22/01/2009/mac-os-x-vulnerability-an-interview-with-vincenzo-iozzo
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:31 PM
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31. I love how like CLOCKWORK these stories appear, and there are NEVER consequences.
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 03:40 PM by onehandle
And how these "scares" are posted here like it was a new thing.

This story will amount to Nothing. There will be no follow up story of massive amounts of users being "infected," like there would be with PC users.

Anyone who goes out of their way to download this illegal application gets what they deserve.

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TheHeathen Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #31
41. Pirated iWork '09 installer may contain trojan horse
http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/news/index.cfm?newsid=24572

Intego, makers of VirusBarrier and other security software for the Macintosh, issued a security alert for Mac users on Thursday, advising them about the existence of a new Trojan Horse, which they’ve named OSX.Trojan.iServices.A. This new Trojan Horse can be found in pirated copies of Apple’s iWork ‘09 application suite, which has been downloaded over 20,000 times, according to Intego’s numbers.

Hit by an OS X exploit
http://notahat.com/posts/28
This morning I found a bunch of these processes chewing 100% CPU on my laptop (OS X 10.5.6):
That's a PHP script, running as root, and DoSing a website. (I've taken out the website URL, but it is one that has recently been under a documented DDoS attack.)

I'm still trying to work out how these got fired up. My machine was otherwise idle at the time they started. Unfortunately I didn't capture the PPID, so I'm not sure what kicked them off.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #41
48. A friend of mine dropped an active firewire drive last week. Died on impact.
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 04:25 PM by onehandle
Based on my one story, external firewire drives must be vulnerable to floor attacks now.



btw, welcome back.


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TheHeathen Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #48
49. Oh my
You are just so full of stories.

:evilgrin:
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:32 PM
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32. Reading through this thread, it seems that the PC users have "small penis" issues.
Or the PC equivalent.

:rofl:
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B o d i Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #32
63. Aren't religious wars FUN?!?
No, not really...

Someone just started a new thread on this, so let's kick this one back to page one for them.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4918207
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 03:45 PM
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40. Meh, if people are still using bitorrent this day in age, they deserve malware. nt
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tomhayes Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:46 PM
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52. This only effects the Mac becasue of USER INCOMPETENCE
If people are downloading illegal software from BitTorrent it's not like it's a vuluenrablity of the mac, it's the end0-user installing software that allows someone else to control there computer.

All the "virus writers" are doinging is changing the installation scripts for programs like Apple Remote Desktop and or Timbuktu.

And to all Mac pirates - download the trial versions of the software to crack *FROM APPLE ONLY*. iWork, iLife, Logi, etc are all avaialble as 30 day time-limited (but not feature limited) demos *directly* from Apple.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:59 PM
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54. No, they have just been smug.
No platform is immune. It's as simple as that.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 04:59 PM
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55. I'm sticking with my New Year's Resolution to not make fun of vegetarians and vegans any more
But Mac fanatics are still fair game.

:nopity:
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #55
58. What about Mac users who don't have an abject hatred for Windows?
:evilgrin:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:29 PM
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59. They're fine with me
BTW I have been running commercial Web sites and databases on mostly Windows-based systems professionally for more than 10 years, and have some experience running Linux and Mac servers. I have no problem with Macs or their owners per se, just with the (mostly technically naive) people who reduce it to the level of a Ford vs. Chevrolet debate.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:00 PM
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56. This news is 4 days old
hardly LBNs
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 05:37 PM
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60. it was on yahoo's front page
.
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