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piesRsquare Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:25 AM
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MENU FOODS HAS EXPANDED THE RECALL LIST
MENU FOODS (AGAIN) EXPANDS LIST OF RECALLED FOODS 03/23/07
Menu Foods expanded its recall to include all 95 brands of the "cuts and gravy" style food, regardless of when they were produced.

Please check the list regularly!

http://www.menufoods.com/recall/index.html

Pet Food Recall updates: http://2blackcats.wordpress.com
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:31 AM
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1. I understand that the CDC has also be alerted just in case this ...
'wheat gluten' made its way into the human food product chain...
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:34 AM
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3. it isnt wheat gluten
Edited on Sat Mar-24-07 01:35 AM by sabbat hunter
that caused the death, but a drug used for cancer but is toxic in high doses snip " Aminopterin inhibits the growth of malignant cells and is used as a cancer drug. It also suppresses the immune system. In high doses, the chemical is highly toxic.

It is used to kill rats in some countries but is not registered for that use in the United States, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. "


sounds like this is something that was added by some malicious person(s) at the factory level.


http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=1&aid=67975
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:37 AM
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5. yes, but the wheat gluten is suspected to be contaminated
with this chemical
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piesRsquare Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 02:29 AM
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14. Correction
Aminopterin is no longer used as a cancer drug in the U.S., though it is still used in research.

Aminopterin IS, however, used as rodent poison in China. It is ILLEGAL to use aminopterin as a rodent poison in the United States.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 11:13 AM
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28. Rat poisen in wheat from China- ahh globalization
it's about profit margin isn't it?

It's not like there's wheat in Kansas???
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 11:18 AM
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30. CNN reported the wheat came from China
and the current educated guess is the rat poison was on the wheat and made it's way into the gluten during processing. -- hense the fears it could have entered the human food chain also.

Why we are paying US farmers not to grow food and buying it from China instead is a whole other discussion of course........
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:34 AM
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2. Kicking it for you! Thanks for the update! (nt)
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:36 AM
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4. are we a 100% certain that dry food is still ok?
it certainly lists wheat gluten as an ingredient...

what is the difference in the manufacture process - wheat gluten in wet and wheat gluten in dry food?
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:59 AM
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7. There was an interesting post about the dry food today..
Someone saying his cat had gotten sick in the short term after eating a wet food sample that came with some of the dry food bought previously... cat seemed to get better but the vet wants to look the cat over. This is good, because there is a possibility of chronic kidney problems as opposed to the acute/fatal ones that have been reported extensively so far. The word on the chronic stuff is just beginning.

So wet samples with dry food. FDA's gonna have to look at that. That may account for at least some of the reports of cats that are normally fed the dry stuff, getting sick
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 02:25 AM
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11. that is an interesting thought
why do cats over time develop chronic kidney problems?

The labs should see whether there is a low contamination issue in all kinds of animal feed.

I lost a Briard (a rescue) to renal failure some years ago.

I wonder....
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 02:28 AM
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13. Well it can't all be unnatural either.
In this case they have cause to take a hard look at lots of cats though. I don't think there's ever been such a widespread pet food problem before. It's pretty bad..
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 02:06 AM
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9. Menu Foods doesn't make dry pet food, so it doesn't look to be a problem.
http://www.menufoods.com/recall/FAQ_Consumer.htm

8. I feed my pet dry food. Is dry pet food safe?

Menu Foods only manufactures wet pet food in cans and foil pouches. Dry pet food is not part of the Menu Foods recall.



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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 02:17 AM
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10. so the contaminated wheat gluten supplier
is selling to who else?

It could be confined to the plant. Which means the plant is the source - but then again I read it is 2 plants one in NJ and one in KS...and the toxic substance is illegal here...

So far no disclosure on the supplier they can not be only selling to 2 plants..

Very strange....
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 02:41 AM
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15. You're right @ the supplier question ...
I wonder why the name hasn't been released yet.

Maybe they're still investigating who else they sold it to - & what foodstuffs (human or otherwise) it was added to? ( I know, bad sentence structure - but it's late & I'm too tired to think straight ... bear w/me folks!)




Saw some weird shit in the market after work - a woman was buying a couple of the jumbo (20 pds?) bags of cat food. Another, verrrrrry obnoxious beehive hairdo type woman comes rushing down the aisle - loudly & forcefully proclaiming to the other that ALL the dry food was killing kitties.

She laid it out. In gory, graphic detail.

First woman is terrified & puts back the 2 bags (last ones, btw) & flees the aisle in tears.

Beehive woman proceeds to snatch up ONE bag & put it in her basket & smiled all the way to the check-out.



Our local stores are pretty close to empty in the pet aisles, & it's bringing out the ugly in some people.



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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:49 AM
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6. Kick, and we use bones and raw food(BARF) diet. Never fed ready
made dog food. Look at the history of wheat gluten and the Irish setter breed.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 02:03 AM
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8. Expansion has got me worried....
Today it's pet food, tomorrow it's ________________
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 02:27 AM
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12. and I don't trust this government to come out with the truth
remember the EPA -WH edited version of the air in NY after 9/11 being safe?
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 04:16 AM
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16. Old joke-
What's invisible and smells like dog food?-
Little old people's farts.
There are some elderly folks who are so poor that they do eat dog food, on occasion. I dread the possibility that a rash of deaths among poor people or homeless will be written off as insignificant and not investigated.

Ah, but the korporate kleptocracy just loves international trade.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 06:49 AM
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17. It came from the wheat they bought from China!!!
Why on earth does this company buy wheat from there? Our farmers in America know how to grow wheat. They get it cheaper from China and so our animals suffer and die. They are also lying about the amount of animals who have died. MSNBC uses an AP article that mentions the wheat from China. The CNN article from the AP is suspiciously missing the paragraph about the wheat from China. How interesting. I read that Menu Foods does manufacture dry dog food also and ships it to other locations to be packaged. Merrick and Canidae are the only ones we have found so far that keep everything at their own plants. Check out www.petconnection.com for a pet death registry. The FDA is not going to tell us the truth and go against this huge corporation!
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:03 AM
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18. I noticed
My last cans from "good lots" of Iams are getting chucked along with the not gravy stuff. In fact as soon as I can wean my guys slowly onto new dry food, thats getting chucked too even though its safe. Bye Bye Iams. I have been a customoer of yours for years. No more.:spank:
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:49 AM
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23. Aren't people ticked also that they pay top
dollar for allegedly high end dog/cat food, only to find out the Wal-Mart or store brand is the SAME THING?!!!

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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:51 AM
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24. You bet!!!!
No more Iams (I have been a customer of for years) or Science diet. EVER EVER EVER!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 11:15 AM
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29. I'm done with Science Diet, too
Don't tell me how special your food is, and then farm it out to be made by the same people making the Aldi house brand!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 09:07 AM
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25. I fed mine Nutro. It was not that expensive, and the cats
Edited on Sat Mar-24-07 09:09 AM by lizzy
liked it. And it had no byproducts. And also they did not get diarrhea on this food. Which they did get with some of the other "cuts and gravy" pouches. It is not "the same thing" even if it's made by the same company.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 07:37 AM
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19. Thank God, it looks like Purina products are going to be bypassed by this mess
That's what I feed my animals, dogs and cats. I hope everybody else's pets are healthy and alive, this whole things is insanity.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:38 AM
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21. They make Fancy Feast don't they?
That's all my cats will eat, plus the Purina dried varieties.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:42 AM
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22. Yes. I called their hotline and was told they weren't part of the recall.
But I'm still rather anxious. :-(
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:27 AM
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26. Purina brands affected by the Menufoods recall:
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:42 AM
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27. Normally I don't like Purina.
Read the ingredients list, and you'll see that almost every single one of their products, for both dogs and cats, has "ground yellow corn" or some variant thereof as the first ingredient. You're lucky if there's a whole meat source (as opposed to a "meal" or a "by-product") in the whole list, but certainly not as the first ingredient. Very poor quality foods. Still, it beats rat poison at this point.
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peacebuzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 08:34 AM
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20. This information has been nerve racking.....
I am frantic. I have just called my pet supplier, since I am away from my home and pets;.....I use pet food from one of the manufacturers on the recall list; although the date was not in the range of the recall.

At first it was just cuts and gravy; when I was home for my "weekend" a couple of days ago, I set aside the "cuts and gravy" (even though the dates were not within the time frame originally designated) good thing , since now, they have expanded to include ALL of the type.

The other type was out of the date range. I feel bad that I even went back to the store and purchased more from the same manufacturer dated out of range. I wish I would have just switched everything. I buy treats also from this manufacturer. Treats are not on the list.

I am going to switch to Science Diet on my next "weekend" and try to return everything I bought; even the dry and the treats. I wonder how they will take that at the store.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 11:21 AM
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31. Now Science Diet is on the list!!!!
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:22 PM
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32. K&R! n/t
PB
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 01:30 PM
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33. Kudos to my local grocery store Giant Food
They sent me in the mail a complete list of everything they carry that was recalled with specific upc codes to know what needs to be returned. Anybody in the DC-Baltimore-N.Va area that shops Giant food (they sell the Companion Pet product themselves) and would like a look at this straight forward list (the upc codes are much less confusing if you ask me) of the products let me know and I will send it along.
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