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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:35 PM
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Bush to pardon at last minute to give more time for crimes


President Bush will not grant any pardons until immediately before Barack Obama's inauguration, so that he won't leave any of his administration's crimes unpardoned, a high ranking White House official said.

"We plan to be working until the very end of the administration, and the president wants to make sure his cabinet and staff are protected from prosecution for all their work," the official said.

In an earlier press conference, the president had revealed his thinking on this, saying, "One mistake my dad made was pardoning his fellas for Iran Contra on Christmas Eve, which my advisers tell me is nearly a month from the leaving office day. They could a done a lot of work for Poppy in that month and they wouldn't a had immunity. That would have a tragedery, which is to say a strategic tragedy."

The official said president Bush will take a stack of pardon forms with him to the inauguration with most of the crimes of administration officials filled in, but space left to write in last minute actions on behalf of the administration.

A likely candidate for needing a very last minute pardon is Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson. His claim that Wall Street needed $700 billion or the country would collapse into chaos hasn't stood up under scrutiny of economic data and looks even more suspect since the money doled out was used on mergers, executive bonuses, and massive parties with male prostitutes and swimming pools full of cocaine. Those receiving the bailout funds will likely be pardoned in order of their contributions to the George W. Bush Presidential lieberry.

Dick Cheney will certainly be pardoned, but the nature of his last minute actions needing pardon is not clear. It may be anything from negotiating his salary for his return to Halliburton based on the size of last minute no-bid contracts he can throw to the company, coercing the CIA into claiming that Osama bin Laden is hiding in Venezuela, or simply strangling a child's puppy to savor the moment when the life goes out of its eyes.

Karl Rove's last minute pardonable offenses are also difficult to predict. His role in outing covert CIA agent Valerie Plame and the firing of US attorneys unwilling to pursue partisan prosecutions is already on the record, and growing evidence points to his role in electronic vote rigging. His last contribution could come in any of these areas: smearing, undermining our judicial system, or tampering with elections.

Since Alberto Gonzalez has already left the administration, his pardon could be completed now since his role in drafting and approving memos that allowed torture so long as it didn't result in organ failure or death is firmly in the past. Gonzalez has done nothing noteworthy since, largely because he can't find a job. The corporate world loves toadies, but even they have some limits of taste if not decency.

The greatest mystery is what President Bush himself will do that will need pardoning. Ironically, in spite of his own claims of guilt in authorizing torture and warrantless wiretapping and joking about lying about WMD in Iraq, legal scholars are unsure if Bush can be prosecuted for any of the actions of the administration since he probably didn't actually authorize anything and could barely read let alone understand the talking points on cue cards about his administration's actions.

"It's a classic legal conundrum," Professor John Doakes of Bethesda University said. "How incompetent does someone have to be before they aren't responsible for their actions? For example, if someone gives a monkey a gun, and he shoots someone, who do you prosecute, the monkey or the person who gave them a gun?"

Bush may pardon himself just to be safe even if he might not actually know what a pardon is.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:38 PM
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1. he's going to make the list and slide it under the White House door as he's leaving
What a fucking class act. :sarcasm:
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:38 PM
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2. Link?
Thanks.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:44 PM
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5. LINK:

http://professorsmartass.blogspot.com/2009/01/bush-to-pardon-at-last-minute-to-give.html">Bush to pardon at last minute to give more time for crimes
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:39 PM
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3. ha! You had me going for a long time with that one
Recommended
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:43 PM
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4. Not recommended for that very reason.
I'm not into rewarding deceit. That's for Bush.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:45 PM
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6. you're kidding. I thought the title alone gave it away
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:46 PM
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7. Foiled once again?
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 04:04 PM
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15. Here's a nickel. Go buy a sense of humor.
Oh, teh drama!!!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 05:43 PM
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17. at which point did you figure it out?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 06:28 PM
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18. "with most of the crimes of administration officials filled in"
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 06:38 PM
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19. yeah, that wouldn't be a form for each, it would be a book
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 11:57 PM
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22. You would have had a lot people
and first I congrats for getting so many "Link?" responses. You started out really strong as satire, but the post became more and more fake as it went on, perhaps that was your intention. In my opinion, if you'd not gone for things like "lieberry" and kept up with the "almost truth" angle it would go a long way. If you can keep that up, and start a humorous blog about it, I think you'll have a lot of followers. I'll be one of them.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 12:31 AM
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23. I tried to hold back, but it was tough. Even so, it seemed to catch a lot of fish
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:47 PM
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8. if someone gives a monkey a gun, and he shoots someone, who do you prosecute?

if someone gives a monkey a gun, and he shoots someone, who do you prosecute, the monkey or the person who gave them a gun?

A monkey can't be responsible for what he does, so naturally the person who gave the monkey the gun should be prosecuted.

Arrest Scalia!
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 03:08 PM
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9. Who gave that gun to Cheney? nt
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 03:11 PM
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10. Scalia, Thomas, O'Connor, Renquist and Kennedy
That's who.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 05:34 PM
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16. that's an even harder problem: a monkey giving a monkey a gun
Should the owner of the monkey that gave the gun to the other monkey?

With the gop, you could easily get up to 12 monkeys, or even infinite monkey regression.

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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 03:33 PM
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11. Bush did set a precedent for retracting pardons
Do America a favor, Mr. President (Obama): retract every last-second pardon of Bush and his henchmen.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 03:36 PM
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12. Can you pardon someone who hasn't been charged? n/t
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 03:39 PM
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13. I keep thinking he isn't going to show up at the Inauguration and will be
in the Oval Office issuing pardons and executive signing statements up until Obama becomes President. Only Cheney, Lynne and Laura will attend. They may make an excuse that he is ill or something like that.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 04:02 PM
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14. Snarkalicious!
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 10:00 PM
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20. lieberry
:rofl:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 11:40 PM
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21. it should have been liebury (for what Bush & Cheney are trying to do now)
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