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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:27 PM
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Can you name any president(s) you think was worse than "W"?
If pushed maybe Buchanan, but I've been reading a biography of him, and I'm not even sure he is worse, certainly not personally.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:28 PM
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1. No. n.t.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:29 PM
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2. Nope.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:30 PM
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3. not a one
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:31 PM
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4. No
I don't think it's possible.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:32 PM
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5. No n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:34 PM
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6. Not yet.
They don't exist in the past ... so we'll have to await the future and see who uses the precedent of the Cheney/Bush administration to wreak even greater damage.

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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:39 PM
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9. !
Once I thought we'd never top Nixon. Then We got Reagan. Surely, I thought, nobody could be worse than this! But DAMN! :scared:

--IMM
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:37 PM
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7. Does it have to be an American President? Non-fictional?
How about just a leader?
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:38 PM
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8. Adolph Hitler?

Oh .... you mean an American President!

Nevermind.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:41 PM
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12. Hitler was Chancellor
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:45 PM
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15. oops
Edited on Thu Jan-15-09 01:46 PM by baldguy
dup
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:05 PM
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24. baldguy
baldguy

Hitler was Chansler of Germany, that is true, but in 1934, when Von Hindenburg, the then President of Germany was old and died, he, after a refurendum no less, managed to be both Chanclor of Germany, and the German President. But after a while he wanted to be titulered just as The Furher becouse of respect for Hindenburg...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad english, not my native language.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 09:43 PM
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30. Mooseohleeknee?
Oh .... he was the Italian dictator.

Nevermind.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:40 PM
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10. Andrew Johnson and Reagan come to mind. But, Boobya even tops them.
"History has tried to teach us that we can't have good government under politicians.  Now, to go and stick one at the very head of government couldn’t be wise." - Mark Twain
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 09:51 PM
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33. My bottom two were Andrew Johnson and Nixon. But it isn't even close. W. is the worst.
He lapped the field. You could make begrudging arguments that even the bad ones weren't psychopaths.

W. is a psychopath.
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:41 PM
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11. Idi Amin.
Oh, you mean US Presidents.

No, there has never been a worse one than W. Economics, foreign policy - you name it, he f*cked it up.

Best we can say about W is he's not a cannibal (at least that we know of).:)

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MyUserNameIsBroken Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:42 PM
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Warren G Harding...
...would have been, if he hadn't been gracious enough to die in office.

Grant and Buchanan are down there too. Nixon was a nasty guy, and a criminal, and a war criminal, but actually had a few bright spots (the EPA, China) that keep him from the very bottom of the barrel.

Ask me again in twenty years. He may have sunk farther by then. :)


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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:45 PM
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14. Harding, Fillmore, Grant, Buchanan, Nixon, and Reagan were ALL better than ...
... Smirk and Sneer, the two turds in the Offal Orifice.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:48 PM
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17. Grant wasn't a "bad" man, but there were a lot of scandals in his administration
He didn't do much to punish the corrupt people that were working for him.

Nowhere near Bush in evilness.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:42 PM
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13. No. To be "fair" to Dubya,
the Federal government is a far more complex place than it was in, say, the late 19th century, when the principal job of the President was to sit on his ass and look out the window, so direct comparisons of talent are impossible. But if you look at how well they performed the job they were given, Dubya is by far the worst President ever.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:46 PM
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16. President Suharto? President Marcos? President Fujimori?
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:49 PM
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18. I'll still stick with Reagan
As I keep saying the shrub just stomped on the accelerator on the vehicle that St. RayGun built for him. I'm not saying Bush is the wrong answer but I just don't see him as the root cause of today's debacles.
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:51 PM
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19. No. Bush Is The Uuorst President EVER!
It is uuithout doubt that Bush/Cheney is the UUORST Regime EVER in the history of the US.

Note: In protest of the continuing occupation of OUR Uuhite House by the illegal and totally corrupt Bush/Cheney regime of thugs and cronies, I REFUSE to use the letter betuueen "V" and "X". Instead, I use a "double u", as in "Uhite House".
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:59 PM
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22. My first initial is W. I'm taking it BACK.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:51 PM
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20. Not even close.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:59 PM
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21. Hoover, Nixon are the two obvious 20th century candidates.

Reagan at a pinch, but probably not. Harding is near-universally derided, but I know very little about him, as are Buchanan and Johnson.

As to which, if any, of those were worse than Bush, it's decades to early to say.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 09:49 PM
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32. Hoover should not be on any such list.
Edited on Thu Jan-15-09 09:56 PM by TexasObserver
He was barely in office when the stock market crashed.

If you want to blame someone for the crash, blame that idiot, Cal Coolidge.

Hoover lived in a world in which the US was not a super power, and there were virtually no controls on the excesses of big business.
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Still Sensible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 09:56 PM
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37. I think you can rightly blame Coolidge, but
Hoover was too stuck on the myth that the free market will correct everything that he floundered with no efective response.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 10:11 PM
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38. Hoover's biggest failure was listening to his asshole Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon.
Edited on Thu Jan-15-09 10:12 PM by roamer65
"Give tax breaks to large corporations, so that money can trickle down to the general public, in the form of extra jobs."

-Andrew "Asshole" Mellon

You are exactly right, Still Sensible.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 12:46 AM
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42. Hoover tried a number of programs, and some were used later by FDR.
Edited on Fri Jan-16-09 12:51 AM by TexasObserver
Hoover unjustly gets blame for the Depression and for not taking action to end it, but he was hobbled by congress and an environment that had not embraced government interventions. He did enact some laws in 1932 to help with some of the economic problems, but by then it was too late.

I am not his advocate, but he's not bottom 5 material. Lowest one third, YES, but I don't blame him for the failure to get things done to help the Depression problems. He gets a bum rap on that. It took the election of '32 to get congress on board, and even then, the GOP controlled Supreme Court remained a problem for years.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:02 PM
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23. Dick Cheney would have my vote. n/t
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:11 PM
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25. Clinton
dah haven't you heard all the bad things that happen to Bush were his fault.


:sarcasm:
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:19 PM
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26. I think Nixon was more physically unattractive.
But Bush ended up causing a ton more damage to our country than Nixon ever even thought about.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:26 PM
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27. Reagan in some ways
Because Reagan helped build the movement conservative movement whereas W brought it to an end. So in that regards Reagan was worse than Bush.

I don't know when the culture of lawlessness started in the executive branch. It may've been with LBJ and Nixon, but I really don't know. But presidents since then have realized they can break the law with impunity and there are not going to be consequences.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:30 PM
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28. Buchanan. About the only good thing you can say about "W" ...
... is "he didn't lead us into a civil war".
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:40 PM
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29. For a long time I held out that Nixon
was worse but I have now come to the conclusion that they were equally terrible. "W" is an egocentric immoral idiot and Nixon was a very intelligent paranoid schizophrenic. They are equally dangerous when in positions of power.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 09:44 PM
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31. nada! nt
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 09:53 PM
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34. No, he's the worst of all time.
The bottom five:

Bush, Jr.
Harding
Andrew Johnson
Buchanan
Coolidge
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 09:53 PM
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35. Franklin Pierce

ooops, wait a minute!

Chucklenuts is a direct decendant through his mother, Barbara SeaHag Pierce Bush, of the very first worst President ever!

It freaking runs in the family!


:rofl:
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 09:54 PM
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36. NO !!!
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 10:13 PM
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39. no. nt
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 10:17 PM
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40. No, he makes some of the other bad one's look pretty good...
Buchanan, A. Johnson, Harding, Coolidge, Nixon, Regan actually don't look so bad compared to this clown.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 10:20 PM
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41. William Henry Harrison was stupid enough to deliver a two-hour Inaugural speech
in a driving snowstorm without wearing a coat and hat.

Thankfully, he had enough self-respect to die of pneumonia a month later and spare us more of his stupidity.
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