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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:28 PM
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Marriage Licenses should come with an expiration date
Edited on Thu Jan-15-09 12:30 PM by Cronus Protagonist
So you have to renew them every 5 years or so, like a green card. That would solve a lot of problems in the US.

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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:29 PM
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1. Marriage licenses *do* come with an expiration date.
You need the license to get married, not BE married.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:30 PM
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3. I thought you was going to say "till death do us part"
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:31 PM
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8. heh. If that were the case I'd have a couple of dead x's.
:hide:
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:39 PM
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13. LOL, spouses, ya can't live with them; can't get away with killing them
:shrug:
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:49 PM
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15. aint that the truth!
:toast:
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:15 PM
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17. Ya can still live without them!
And booty calls are much hotter than marital sex anyways... :P
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:46 PM
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21. yeah, you can live with out em, but it'll cost ya.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:12 PM
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36. No kidding :P
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:54 PM
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25. Or as Norm said on Cheers
"You can't live with 'em . . . . pass the beer nuts."

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:31 PM
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9. You're right--they're usually only good for a certain period. nt
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:30 PM
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2. and open an entire new market speeding up the asset division process
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:31 PM
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4. Yeah, the kids would just love that, having to wonder if Ma or Pa will up and leave every five years
I think a better solution is for people to not marry because other people think they should.

It should be a mature decision, taken after careful consideration.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:31 PM
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5. If it cost $10 to get a divorce and $10K to get married.
I t might be better too.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:37 PM
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11. hehe - I like it!
You know for sure that the person you're with actually wants to be with you.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:56 PM
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26. I used to work in divorce court
and I wish I had a dollar for every person who said to me, "If it was as hard to get married as it is to get divorced, there would be a lot fewer marriages."
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:31 PM
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6. Are you proposing we move our nation's capitol to Las Vegas?
Logistically, that's the only way it's gonna work.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:31 PM
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7. Forget that. Marriages should come with an expiration date. You should have to...
affirmatively re-enlist.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:37 PM
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12. Well, that's what I meant
I was thinking of a license to BE married, not the GET married :P
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:34 PM
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10. Wasn't there a legislator in Germany that proposed exactly that a few years ago?
It's a GREAT idea!
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:40 PM
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14. What problems would it solve?
And why should I have to go through the trouble of re-marrying every few years? That's silly. We already have passports, my husband's greencard, and stuff like that to deal with. We don't need any more bureaucracy, thanks.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:16 PM
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18. You must have missed my sig line
And don't take everything too seriously, will ya? Life's too short.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:52 PM
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16. I'm not sure what problems that would solve
Here in Texas, you just take your spouse on a hunting trip when you've had enough. It's much cheaper and easier than a divorce.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:41 PM
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19. It usually takes more than 5 years to work the bugs out.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:45 PM
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20. and then some of us are 14 yrs in and never more happy and satisfied
and looking forward to another thirty.

we dont need an out every 5 years....
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:57 PM
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29. It wouldn't be a requirement n/t
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:49 PM
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22. Yeah because LOTS of women would sign up for THAT deal...
"Term" marriage with an expiration date and no requirement for their husbands to divorce them..

:rofl:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:53 PM
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24. right... that really stupid talk that only women want marriage....
rollin eyes...
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:56 PM
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27. no but women have more to lose in a divorce if they can't get one.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:58 PM
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31. 50/50... i dont see where the worry is. n/t
Edited on Thu Jan-15-09 01:58 PM by seabeyond
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:03 PM
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32. Women are the ones usually left with the kids
and women generally don't make as much as their spouses.

Doug D.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:04 PM
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33. women are generally the ones even making less working 40 hrs a week
Edited on Thu Jan-15-09 02:04 PM by seabeyond
doing the majority of housework and caregiving to the kids (without pay).

50/50
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:08 PM
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34. Well I'm single and do my own dishes (without a dishwasher) and laundry.
I don't expect a woman to pick up after me.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:11 PM
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35. i was single and did my own too. really had nothing to do with us when single
Edited on Thu Jan-15-09 02:12 PM by seabeyond
did it
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:56 PM
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28. It would work both ways
It would put some pressure on the relationship, though. Not being sure the other party would want to renew, or whether oneself might want to. But it might be no worse than wondering when your spouse was going to walk out on you at any time.

Maybe a complement - no divorce during each five years. So you'd have to be committed to the next five years, which might be more than people end up committed to the usual way.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:57 PM
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30. how about we respect people's right to stay married or get divorced on their own timetable
instead of trying to force one on them?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 03:43 PM
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37. Gosh, no one proposed anyone else's timetable - if you want to choose to stay married
Or not.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 07:19 PM
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40. It would be a trade off
You'd have an out you don't normally have. But couldn't get out in the meantime, but not for life.

People used to be able to handle it for life; now a five year committment is too much!

After having handled several family law cases, I believe society is entitled to make people stay married until their kids are grown! Custody and visitation fights are generally sickening. Have kids with someone and you should be stuck with them until the kids are grown. Is that so much to ask of people? Outside of battered wives, that is. Just the type who want out because they "aren't happy" (who is, all the time?) or because the "romance is dead." (Isn't that a normal part of it all?).

By the time they are done fighting I sometimes wonder if it could have been worse than the divorce. All the bitterness caused by the divorce seems worse than not having the perfect spouse.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 07:26 PM
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42. i spent the other day listening
to a lot of men on various boards and blogs talking about relationships, emotions, marriages. and man.....

was a wow

but what got me was the equal number of men wanting to fix their marraige having thought all was well as what we assumed women wanted. there was not the differences that our society likes to pretend. and that whole issue of children was big. another consistent was not happier when they were out. the grass wasnt greener. and it was too late.

it really made me appreciate my marriage all the more and i felt pretty strongly about it in the first place.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 01:52 PM
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23. The wedding industry should donate a lot of money to that cause
A whole tradition around "renewal" could develop. Every couple could have something every five years.

Family law might get more complicated however. What to do with the couples who stay together and fail to renew, but later want to split up. That would develop some interesting legal questions.

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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 03:44 PM
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38. Attorneys should support it too, then!
And, of course all of these should support same sex marriage for the same reasons :P
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 07:21 PM
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41. Attorneys could definitely see a lot more cases
Then again, they'd be family law cases, and those are more stressful than they are worth! Everybody thinks you can legally order perfect vengeance on the other partner! (Or force them to become the perfect mate).

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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 03:49 PM
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39. mine did
it's called divorce:hide:
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 07:28 PM
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43. I like it. My wife and I would be required to take a trip to Vegas every 5 years to re-new.
I'd never do better than her.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 07:32 PM
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44. "Till an arbitrary expiration date established by vote of the state legislature do us part"...
...just doesn't have the same ring to it.
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