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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 04:46 AM
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FAIR Action Alert: New York Times Tom Friedman supports civilian suffering as "education"


http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3679

Action Alert

Terrorism on the NY Times Op-Ed Page


Friedman supports civilian suffering as "education"



1/14/09

New York Times
foreign affairs columnist Thomas Friedman endorsed terrorism in a January 14 column defending Israel's attacks on the Gaza Strip. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/14/opinion/14friedman.html

To answer his own question about Israel's plan--"What is the goal?"--Friedman referred back to the 2006 attacks on Lebanon, which killed about 1,000 Lebanese civilians. To Friedman, this was the "education" of the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah:


Israel's counterstrategy was to use its air force to pummel Hezbollah and, while not directly targeting the Lebanese civilians with whom Hezbollah was intertwined, to inflict substantial property damage and collateral casualties on Lebanon at large. It was not pretty, but it was logical. Israel basically said that when dealing with a nonstate actor, Hezbollah, nested among civilians, the only long-term source of deterrence was to exact enough pain on the civilians--the families and employers of the militants--to restrain Hezbollah in the future.


The "logical" plan, as Friedman explained it, is to punish civilians in the hopes that this will force the political change you prefer. This is precisely the "logic" of terrorists.

According to Friedman, this "education" worked on Hezbollah, and he hopes it will work in the current conflict: "In Gaza, I still can't tell if Israel is trying to eradicate Hamas or trying to 'educate' Hamas, by inflicting a heavy death toll on Hamas militants and heavy pain on the Gaza population." Friedman's preference is for the terrorism "education."

This pro-terrorism argument has been made before by Friedman, who advocated the same sort of terror against Serbs, writing (4/6/99) that "people tend to change their minds and adjust their goals as they see the price they are paying mount. Twelve days of surgical bombing was never going to turn Serbia around. Let's see what 12 weeks of less than surgical bombing does. Give war a chance."

The New York Times has developed certain rules and guidelines for its opinion columnists over the years--they are not permitted to endorse political candidates, and they are generally expected to refrain from criticizing one another by name in print. Other policies have been made clear in the past--as when liberal columnist Paul Krugman was instructed not to refer to George W. Bush as "lying" during the 2000 campaign (Washington Post, 1/22/03).

Does the Times have a similar standard for columnists who endorse inflicting suffering on civilians? Or does the acceptability of advocating terrorism depend on who is being terrorized?

ACTION: Ask the Times if Thomas Friedman's column advocating terrorism against civilians in Gaza meets the paper's standards for its opinion columns.

CONTACT:
New York Times

Public Editor
Clark Hoyt
public@nytimes.com
(212) 556-7652

Editorial Page Editor
Andrew Rosenthal
editorial@nytimes.com

You can post copies of your letters to the New York Times on FAIR's blog here:

http://www.fair.org/blog/2009/01/14/action-terrorism-on-the-ny-times-op-ed-page/

Please remember that letters that maintain a civil tone are most effective.

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http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3679

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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 04:50 AM
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1. Friedman is slippery.
At first he sounds reasonable with his talk of globalization.

Then you realize he's full of shite.

And some people are Zionist nationalist jerks, and some other people are Jews that think the Palestinians have a right to exist.

:wtf:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 05:08 AM
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2. He's an ass. I don't know if it's worse to have him on your side or against you.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 05:50 AM
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3. Ummmm....yeah. It worked so well
After the Isreali assault on Lebanon most of the money and support the people got came from Hizbollah.

It actually strengthened Hizbollah.

Don't know what friedman is talking about
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 08:53 AM
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6. Really.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 05:58 AM
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4. I saw the headline, I thought it was about the US economic situation.
I bet he'd support that, too.

So long as he wasn't the one doing the suffering.

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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 06:35 PM
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14. I think I read somewhere that a lot of his heiress wife's
Edited on Thu Jan-15-09 06:39 PM by tblue37
money has evaporated in the economic meltdown. Does anyone know if this is true? (I HOPE it is!)

On edit--IT IS TRUE! From $3.6 billion to $25 million!:
From Vanity Fair:
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2008/11/thomas-friedmans-world-is-flat-broke.html

It would be easy to dismiss today’s rant (however spot-on it might be) by New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman as yet another ideological tirade against the U.S. automobile industry. But based on the bad news coming out of shopping-mall owner General Growth Properties , it is no wonder Friedman is feeling crankier than usual. That’s because the author’s wife, Ann (née Bucksbaum), is an heir to the General Growth fortune. In the past year, the couple—who live in an 11,400-square-foot mansion in Bethesda, Maryland—have watched helplessly as General Growth stock has fallen 99 percent, from a high of $51 to a recent 35 cents a share. The assorted Bucksbaum family trusts, once worth a combined $3.6 billion, are now worth less than $25 million.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 06:51 PM
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15. no real money was lost. just stock value: goes down & up with the market.
the woman still owns the same % of the *real* economy as ever.

that's the power: the control over real assets.

whereas if you or i lose savings, we have to work more to make up for the loss, & may never get back to jump street.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 08:51 AM
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5. one kick
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 12:06 PM
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7. Kick
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:28 PM
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8. another kick for the next shift
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:47 PM
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9. To paraphrase Capt. Renault:
Tom Friedman is one of the reasons American journalism enjoys the reputation it has today.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 02:51 PM
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10. or as the late, great Edward W. Said so eloquently described Mr. Friedman
"the very crass, the very vulgar, the very arrogant and the very ignorant, Thomas Friedman."
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 04:30 PM
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12. But, he has his uses. He is arguing here that Israel is targeting civilians,
is he not?
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 05:18 PM
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13. he does seem to be unwittingly implying it
I doubt that he realizes it, though.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 04:32 AM
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18. That's what happens when you think in abstract terms about
the deaths of real people. He'd probably be shocked to realize that's exactly what he's done. Good action, Douglas Carpenter. :)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 04:23 PM
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11. Kick
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 08:36 PM
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16. one more kick
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 04:22 AM
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17. one last kick
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