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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 09:16 PM
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Don't FORGET! As Much as we Love Obama and he has our Hearts for HOPE...we can't FORGET!
Edited on Wed Jan-14-09 09:20 PM by KoKo01
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald /

Just as Congressional Democrats have known for the last eight years, Obama will know that there is only a price to pay when he acts contrary to the Republican and Beltway "centrist" agenda, but no price to pay when he acts contrary to the agenda of his most ardent supporters (because they won't criticize him, because to do is to "tear him down," "help Republicans," act like a Naderite purist, etc. etc. etc.). That meek and deferential attitude -- aside from being a wildly inappropriate and even dangerous way to treat a political leader -- also ensures that one is irrelevant and taken for granted and one's views easily ignored.

When Obama does things that warrant praise -- when he appoints someone like Dawn Johnsen as OLC Chief, or defies Beltway demands by going outside of the intelligence community to find his CIA Director -- he should be praised. When he does things that warrant criticism -- such as going on national television to talk about the need for a special process to allow the use of "tainted" evidence against Guantanamo detainees, or when he openly contemplates naming someone as CIA Director who supports rendition and torture, or when he votes in favor of warrantless eavesdropping and telecom amnesty -- he should be vigorously criticized. When he makes statements without any apparent basis -- such as Sunday's assertion that Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons -- he ought to be made to account for that claim and show evidence for it. That's just basic accountability for a political official.

Like all politicians, Obama is not intrinsically good. Good things don't happen by virtue of the mere existence of his presidency. His presidency will be good only and exactly to the extent that he does good things. Pressure and criticisms make his doing those good things more likely (there is a quote from FDR, which I cannot find but am certain commenters will quickly cite, where FDR privately instructed his supporters to publicly criticize him for not doing X so that he would be able to do X more easily).

Obama is about to become one of the world's most powerful political leaders, if not the single most powerful. He begins with sky-high approval ratings, his political party in control of Congress by a large margin, and enjoys reverence so intense from certain quarters that such a loyal following hasn't been seen since the imperial glow around George Bush circa 2002. He's not going to crumble or melt away like the Wicked Witch if he's pressured or criticized. The far more substantial danger is that he won't be pressured or criticized enough by those who are eager to see meaningful changes in Washington, and then -- either by desire or necessity -- those are the voices he will ignore most easily.



More of an interesting read no matter what side or philosophy you have at this time as a Democrat...it's worth the read...whether you agree or disagree...there are some interesting thoughts in that piece by Greenwald. Read more of whole article about why we Dems need to keep at Obama...and why he just might listen
at..........
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald /
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 09:19 PM
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1. I decided today to start thinking more positive...
Edited on Wed Jan-14-09 09:20 PM by liberalmuse
about the Obama Presidency than I have since the Warren fiasco. We need to pressure him to do the right thing. He is open and willing to listen to viewpoints he does not currently hold. I admonish everyone to keep the "pressure" on, or more accurately, let President Obama know exactly where we stand on prosecuting Bush and his administration on their criminal behavior (no,it should not interfere with the vast shitload of crap Bush has already dumped on America and President Obama. In fact, it is an integral part of the shit we MUST clean up before we can "move on"!)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 09:23 PM
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2. It's been quoted a lot around DU...that he has said: "I am a blank page."
If he truly sees himself that way then it's up to ALL OF US to fill his "Blank Page" with OUR THOUGHTS about the "CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN" meme that his campaign was all about.

He asked us. If we remain silent...who will fill the void? :shrug: I don't want to think about who that would be...because I know what those folks have done to us for decades. We speak up or OUR SILENCE ..will DOOM us to Triangulation or the dustbins....


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EraOfResponsibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 09:32 PM
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3. Obama himself has called on us to keep him accountable
so yes, we should speak up in CONSTRUCTIVE ways to let him know what we're thinking. This is precisely why I wish he could keep his blackberry.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-09 08:54 PM
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4. Yes he did do that, say that, call for that. Why is it that many folks never heard him say that?
:shrug:
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