Breaking news in Texas. 2 people carrying sulfuric acid in their car

[Horse with no Name]

abandoned 5 kids (at least one had serious injury from fumes) in a small town.

Why would anyone be carrying containers of sulfuric acid in their car??

Just found a link:
http://cbs11tv.com/local/children.hurt.acid.2.908504.html

WOODBINE (CBS 11 News) ―
Five children under the age of six have been hurt after an accident involving sulfuric acid near the town of Woodbine, in Cooke County.

The Cooke County Emergency Manager, Ray Fletcher, tells CBS 11 the accident took place in a passenger vehicle when the children were somehow exposed to acid that was in some kind of container.

Three helicopter ambulances are on the scene.

No word on how the accident happened or the extent of the children's injuries.

[Fleshdancer]

1. Where in TX?

Are there any more details? This is a strange story.

[Horse with no Name]

4. Just found a link (see above)

Woodbine.

[Ilsa]

29. North of Dallas Fort Worth metroplex. nt

[Fridays Child]

2. Is it used in meth production? I don't know.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

10. Yup.

http://alcoholism.about.com/od/meth/a/methlab.htm

[Fridays Child]

15. Well, then I'm thinking that anyone who needs it for legitimate purposes should know better...

...than to have it in a vehicle carrying children.

[Statistical]

11. yup. commonly aquired as battery acid. (n/t)

[Jackpine Radical]

12. Yes it is. My first thought on seenig the story was "Meth lab."

[juno jones]

51. Sadly enough, me too. n/t

[sam sarrha]

14. yea.. here is the link>>

http://www.portlandonline.com/police/index.cfm?c=38594

These chemicals are commonly associated with meth labs:
Chemicals
Acetone Alcohol (isopropyl or rubbing)
Anhydrous ammonia and ammonium sulfate (fertilizer) Battery acid (sulfuric acid)
Bleach Coleman fuel
Drain cleaner (sulfuric acid or caustic soda) Drain openers such as Red Devil lye
Heet and Iso-Heet, gasoline additives (methanol/alcohol) Hydrogen peroxide
Iodine (both crystal and liquid) Lithium batteries
Matches (red phosphorous) Mineral Spirits
Muriatic acid Over the counter cold pills containing ephedrine or pseudoephedrine
Salt (table or rock) Sodium and Lithium metal
Starting Fluid (organic ether) Toluene
Trichloroethane (gun cleaning solvent)

[High Plains]

44. I have a lot of that stuff in my house. Does that make me a meth cook?

[cliffordu]

45. Have you got most of your own teeth??

[sam sarrha]

48. i just answered a question... your thinly veiled question was an accusation.. Links>>

people with kids gont want to make it at home, you never get the stink out of your home, i tripped on a piece of meth waste once, i'd rater roll in shit


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28565444/
They produce meth using a two liter bottle or similar device, every 15 to 20-minutes they stop driving to vent the bottle as it becomes volatile, and when they are finished, they throw the bottle to the side of a road still filled with hazardous chemicals.

http://www.tvrundown.com/0239.htm
In a one-year period, more than 100 children were removed from homes where meth was made or sold in 10 Minnesota counties. The child welfare authorities took the children to protect them from dangerous situations, including the risk of explosion or fire.

[juno jones]

52. I'd rather roll. in ...

Damn straight. I lived in a trailer park in Sacramento for a very interesting stretch in the early oughts. One day somebody dumped some chemical swill in our garbage can that was out by the curb waiting for pick-up. We tried several things but couldn't wash the smell out of the garbage can afterwards. We finally traded our can for the can in front of an empty trailer, we had to, it was summer and we couldn't open our windows, that's how permeating the stuff was.

A month after we finally moved out of the park we learned that people in a trailer elsewhere in the park had been busted for running a rather substanial meth lab.

Ugh meth. Caveat Emptor.

[Warpy]

19. That's my first guess.

I carried glacial (pure) sulfuric acid on the Boston subway. I bought it at a plumbing supply house and was getting it home because it was the only thing that would unstop the ancient plumbing on Beacon Hill.

I doubt that was why this loon was carrying it, though.

[deaniac21]

3. I like to carry it around in case I see dirty bricks.

[TheCowsCameHome]

22. sicko.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[TheCowsCameHome]

25. duplicate

[Statistical]

5. meth

sulfuric acid is used in meth production.

[Horse with no Name]

8. That explains it

:(

[FreeState]

21. Child abuse IMO n/t

[ProfessorGAC]

49. It's A Dehydrating Agent

From what i know of the reaction used, there is a condensation step that would come to a screeching halt in the presence of the water released by that step. This is a common technique used in all kinds of reactions from the making of TNT to the flavors and fragrance industry.

And, it would probably be the easiest thing to get on the list of ingredients (given above). Well, lots of stuff on there could be gotten at any hardware store, i'd guess.
GAC

[katusha]

6. sulphuric acid also known as battery acid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_acid

[Mojorabbit]

16. My mouth waters

whenever I see one of your posts with that pic. I need to try that recipe.

[FreeState]

24. I just started Weight Watchers again... for maintenance...

and that pic is making me want to go eat... LOL... tempted but Id rather be healthy:) (if I say that enough I may even believe it!)

[katusha]

33. sorry to tempt you

i have my own battle of the bulge going on as well and fresh bread is not helpful, although i do whole grain with wheat germ mostly now for me it still is hard not to eat the whole loaf out of the oven when it has that slight peanut-butter flavor.

[Pithlet]

36. I meant to complement you the other day in a thread you were in.

I get hungry every time you post! That bread looks heavenly.

[katusha]

43. thank you for the compliment, :-)

[katusha]

30. if you like i could PM you the recipe

have to clean it up a bit it's in chicken scratch shorthand for me but it would be no trouble

[Mojorabbit]

34. Please do

thank you so much.

[patrice]

20. What a cool recipe on that NYT link!!

:think: I wonder if that's something that some residents in long-term care could do . . .

[katusha]

31. it is indeed wonderful

and very easy and open to tinkering(rye, whole wheat, cheese, etc.) if you have an oven and some sort of covered pot (i use cast iron) it works great.

[patrice]

37. The home I work in has smaller "neighborhoods" built around kitchens with

great-room/dining/TV areas. I was talking to some Certified Nursing Assistants the other day and they were telling me about cooking snacks and special things for their residents. The CNAs and Social Workers are always looking for appropriate activities. You'd think an activity that is actually useful, and DELICIOUS, would be really appreciated. This bread is an activity they could share and ENJOY!

I will try it at home first; I have the cast iron casserole, but I will try it with the pyrex too, since that is what the CNAs are more likely to have available.

I sent the link to myself at work already, thanks very much!

:hi:

[Trillo]

7. Oh, maybe they have a swimming pool?

Though it might be a little hard on their plaster.

Maybe they do copper plumbing repair.

Lots of possible reasons.

[backscatter712]

9. Tweakers cooking meth?

God knows what they make their shit out of... Battery acid, drain cleaner, Coleman gas, paint thinner, lithium watch batteries, cold tablets... It's your classic redox reaction, and they use acids and bases for it.

[valerief]

13. Probably driving it to Wasilla, meth capital of the world. nt

[dipsydoodle]

17. Was the spelling changed

from sulphuric at the same time as aluminium ?

Spelling for idiots. :sarcasm:

[Horse with no Name]

28. Not sure what you are talking about

As far as I know it has always been SULFURIC. :shrug:
http://scifun.chem.wisc.edu/CHEMWEEK/Sulf&top/Sulf&Top.html

[dipsydoodle]

47. Apparently the change occured c. 1970

Why on earth they needed to change the name of an element is beyond me. Sulphur was partly derived from its Latin name sulphurium. Presumably phosphorus will eventually become fosforus. Like I said - simplified spelling for idiots.

[ima_sinnic]

35. Merriam Webster's 11th Collegiate says "the spelling sulfur predominates

in U.S. technical usage, while both sulfur and sulphur are common in general usage. British usage tends to favor sulphur in all applications. The same pattern is seen in most of the words derived from sulfur."

[doc03]

18. They need to fill a bunch of car batteries I

suppose.

[slackmaster]

23. Fucking meth cooks

String them up by the nuts.

[LiberalFighter]

27. Wouldn't do any good if they can't feel their nuts while on meth.

[TheCowsCameHome]

26. Maybe for next week's "Welcome Home" party punchbowl in Crawford

[ddeclue]

32. Breaking News: EVERY CAR IN AMERICA contains sulfuric acid..

:rofl:



You can buy sulfuric acid for car or other vehicle batteries at a lot of farm stores.

Let's not go crazy over something as trivial as this.

:crazy:

[Horse with no Name]

38. Most cars don't carry it in the PASSENGER areas

:crazy:
And most kids that ride in these cars don't routinely need to be CAREFLITE'd to major trauma centers just because they rode in the car. Let's not be trivial over something so crazy.

[ddeclue]

40. You can buy H2SO4 at just about any farm supply store...

and actually some cars (old Volkswagens and Audis) used to have the batter under the rear passenger seat.

Let's not be crazy over something so trivial.

FYI you can also buy muriatic acid (hydrochloric acid or HCL) at many hardware stores as well as farm supply stores.

Let's stop being so paranoid - if it was a semi tanker truck or a railroad car that's one thing. Even as much as a few gallons is not worth freaking out a whole city over though.

[ddeclue]

41. PS acids are neutralized by bases...

Such as NaOH (Sodium Hydroxide or "Lye" or DRANO), Baking soda (Sodium Bicarbonate), etc.

Don't want to get it on your skin, don't want to breathe the stuff but it's not like it's the Ebola virus or something.

Doug D.

[NickB79]

46. Some of us don't consider 5 young children badly injured by acid fumes "trivial"

Especially with the possibility that the parents were transporting the acid for the purpose of cooking meth.

But thanks for playing anyway :eyes:

[Joanne98]

39. Meth

[rainbow4321]

42. Guess that explains the "code yellow level 3 in ER" in my hospital

Was just after 4:30pm when we heard that announced over the intercom..our unit is not attached to the hospital so no one knew what was going on. Later we heard a shitload of helicopters were landing on the hospital roof. They must have been carrying all the accident/exposure victims. Code yellow is for internal "disaster" of sorts.

[carlyhippy]

50. an ingredient for meth or bathtub speed

Carly