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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 09:47 AM
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Police catch serial rapist by matching DNA of rapist's 4 year old son
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 09:48 AM by Liberal_in_LA
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01/02/brianna.denison/index.html

Former Marine pleads not guilty to raping, killing college student

The case went unsolved for almost 10 months until an anonymous tip from a friend of Biela's former girlfriend broke this cold case wide open, police said.

Investigators had established that the killer was from the Reno area and had an unusual fetish of collecting one victim's underwear and leaving it at the next victim's crime scene.

The tipster caught investigators' attention by telling them that Biela's former girlfriend had found two pairs of thong panties in his truck.

Detectives immediately followed up on the tip and, with permission from the former girlfriend, took DNA samples from Biela's 4-year-old son.

Lab tests showed that the boy's father -- Biela -- was almost certainly a match for the DNA found on the doorknob and at the crime scene, police said.

The finding was confirmed when Biela was arrested and ordered to submit DNA samples. An overnight session at the crime lab confirmed the match, and charges were filed, police said.

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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 09:49 AM
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1. Does the 4-year-old son have an alibi?
Just axin'.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 09:52 AM
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2. lol. n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 09:54 AM
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3. With permission from the baby-mama, there's no way the guy can gripe.
I'm glad they caught the murdering cretin. May he enjoy, hopefully, his entire life in jail.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 09:55 AM
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4. agreed. He probably raped many women who never came forward.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:01 AM
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5. It's amazing what DNA testing can do these days.
It's helped provide the smoking gun for guilty parties and helped innocent people wrongly accused go free--sometimes after years of imprisonment.

Hope this creep gets his full punishment.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:01 AM
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6. This sounds like a CSI episode. The question I have is, are they now going to keep the
child's DNA in the national DNA database?
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:17 AM
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9. You betcha they will. Once they get it, they're not gonna give it up.
That's why when the schools and daycares around here offer to sign the kids up for "Child watch" (or some name like that), I blow them off. They have police at the booth who fingerprint the kids, you fill out paperwork and give them your child's school photo, and they give you a DNA swab kit, which you need to send into their lab for analysis either now or at a future time (you can opt to wait until it's needed). I know it's can be used in a good way, but only if they can be trusted, and I don't trust them that far.

Also, I belong to a genealogy group that is really touting DNA research right now. You can purchase a swab kit and send it back to them for analysis. They'll tell you who you are most likely related to. They say it's private and results are not kept by the lab, but I just wouldn't go there. Not to mention, the number one person who is running the study from the group is career military. Just kinda made me go "Hmmmm. Nah, not interested." when asked if I wanted to have myself or my brother tested.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:02 AM
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7. Now watch the bastard get off on some BS claim that they took the kid's DNA illegally.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:09 AM
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8. I hope not.
I hope they take it all the way to the Supreme Court and decide the DNA was taken totally legally and set the ultimate precedent when it comes to rapists. They leave their DNA all over the damn place forcibly. Let them trot.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:19 AM
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10. Nah. Mom gave permission, so it's legal.
If they had taken it without Mom's permission it would be different, but he really has no case.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:00 PM
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21. I know. I just have little faith in our criminal justice system when it comes to prosecuting
sex crimes.
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:00 PM
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22. Dupe.
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 12:00 PM by Liberal_Lurker
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:21 AM
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11. Another case of Femicide or... "Breathing while Female"
and no defensive comments, please.

Men are murdered more often than women, but it's almost NEVER "random"...It's for "a reason".

These women are killed by men just for..Oh, I don't know..Having a vagina?

Before you start flaming, maybe you can tell me how many men are killed just for "being male"... or how these HATE Crimes differ from those which are perpetrated on the basis of race or sexual preference?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:32 AM
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15. Femicide Shmemicide.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:38 AM
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18. Sure, and how 'bout "..."Racist, schmacist" or "Gay marriage shmay marriage?
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 11:39 AM by whathehell
How well would THAT be greeted on DU?

But hey...Thanks for your concern!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:44 AM
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20. Incomparible.
You can't compare an equal rights concept of gay marriage to a completely ignorant and highly warped example of what constitutes Femicide.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:07 PM
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23. Equal rights to marriage...How about equal rights to LIVE?...You're right they
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 12:09 PM by whathehell
are NOT comparable!

p.s. "completely ignorant and highly warped example of what constitutes femicide"?...

This statement infers an "educated" "non-warped" example of what constitutes femicide?....Do you HAVE one?....Or do you just deny it's existence?

Let's see if your talent for critical thinking equals your talent for Non-Thinking Attacks.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 03:47 PM
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26. "how many men are killed just for "being male""
During the Vietnam War, the U.S. only drafted males into combat.

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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:03 PM
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27. You need to read my first post....War is not a "random" event.
The decision to wage war against Vietnam* was made by men, as was the decision to limit the draft to males.

*There were nurses and other female personnel killed in Vietnam -- and scores more who have been, and continue to be, killed in Iraq.

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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:09 PM
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28. Are you so certain that the woman who were senselessly killed, were killed at random?
Those woman may have looked like the murderer's mother, they may have laughed similar to someone who ridiculed the murderer years ago, or the murderer may have chosen his victims because he found them to be sexually attractive.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:49 PM
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30. I don't consider unconscious associations or finding someone sexually attractive,
as a "reason" to kill them.

When I say "random" I mean that they are strangers to the murderer and/or that they have done nothing to bring it on themselves...Their's no "motive" other than the desire to do harm.


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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:56 PM
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34. You may wish to consider the phrase, 'pleasure killing', over 'random killing'.
Pleasure killing, as a phrase, is harder hitting, and seems to describe your feelings more than the phrase, 'random killing'. Just a thought.

Consider the following.

-The women were killed at random.

-The women were killed for pleasure.

I guess that the two could be combined.

-The women were killed at random, for the sake of pleasure.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 10:10 PM
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36. You may wish to consider the phrase
Edited on Sun Jan-04-09 10:11 PM by whathehell
.."not to put too fine a point on it"

Do you think gay bashing and racial killings are perpetrated for "pleasure"?...or just to excercise a pathological hate?

I would imagine that it's a question for Psychiatry.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:53 PM
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33. Andy Warhol?
I heard his complication was due to his shooting.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:01 AM
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12. I think the results here are great
but I think the sample needs to be destroyed after this case is over. I don't think parents should be able to incriminate their kids for years to come as could well be the case here if this kid ever commits a crime.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:06 AM
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13. Interesting how most here seem more concerned with
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 11:07 AM by whathehell
the circumstances of the DNA than they do about the senseless murder of another female.
..Guess that's just "business as usual":eyes:
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:11 AM
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14. I have no problem with getting the DNA for this purpose
but I do have a problem with them using it for any other purpose. Or do you think the kid should be jailed just in case? I can just as easily ignore your clear meaning and be an emotional jack ass. My point, clearly expressed, without any possibility of honest mistake, was that I felt the DNA should be used in this case but then destroyed so the kid doesn't get possibly incriminated later. Any other reading of my post was purely, purposefully dishonest and inflammatory. I think permitting a parent to possibly incriminate a child not only in the present but in the future (literally lifetime) is a huge problem.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:32 AM
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16. But you are "ignoring my clear meaning".....I am not ADDRESSING
the issue of the DNA collection right now -- I'm expressing anger and concern over another senseless Femicide.

I'm sorry, but at this point, I'm more concerned about the random, non-stop murders of women than I am about LIVING little boy...Hello?

It seems obvious that this "uncomfortable social problem" of Femicide is taking a big back seat in favor of discussing side issues.

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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:43 AM
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19. then lets just have a DNA data base for every person in America
to be used whenever a woman, but not a man, is killed. While we are at it, lets eliminate the bill of rights in any case in which a woman, but not a man, is killed. Torture, let it in, but only if a woman is killed. Illegal search and seizure, if it is a case where a woman was killed, let it in. Sorry, but either we have due process in this country or we don't. We don't get to pick and choose when we have it or else it isn't due process any more.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:13 PM
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24. Ummm..I'm not suggesting the elimination of due process for anyone
What I am suggesting is what everyone knows -- That women are killed at random FAR more often than men are.

Sorry you're not up to dealing with the real issue.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 02:14 PM
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25. sure you are
When I dared say that the DNA should be thrown out after the trial of the father so it couldn't be against the child. You excorriated me for not caring about dead women DESPITE THE FACT THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE POST SAID I AM GLAD THE MAN WAS CONVICTED. You obviously don't give a damn about due process for the sons of murdering rapists. One then wonders what other people don't qualify for due process either.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:28 PM
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29. No I don't....Please re-read the posts...'Cause you're getting close to that "River in Egypt"
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 05:30 PM by whathehell
De Nial...

You're getting so wound up you're forgetting what you said or did NOT say.

I copied your first post..Here:

"I think the results here are great
but I think the sample needs to be destroyed after this case is over. I don't think parents should be able to incriminate their kids for years to come as could well be the case here if this kid ever commits a crime".

Not a word about the dead girl, or the conviction of her killer.

Ditto for the second post and the third...Sorry, dsc...Not a word about "conviction" or the victim..Nada.


By the way, I agree with you regarding the storage of the DNA.



:shrug:
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:50 PM
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31. Do you think all fingerprint databases should be erased also?
How about driver's license photos, marriage certificates, birth records?

Some people don't agree with those either, so I'm just wondering if it's just the nature of DNA that you don't like to have recorded, or do you just fear all systems of records that may contain information about individuals.

DNA simply provides forensic evidence if anything at all, and rarely do such things lie or are they inaccurate unlike testimony. So it all depends on how ethically it's used, just like everything else about the justice system.

DNA evidence is also exculpatory just about as often as it is incriminating, which is not a bad thing at all, especially if you're the one sitting on death row for a crime someone else committed.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:33 AM
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17. Wow. Great Outcome! Hope That Fucker Rots Till The End Of His Days.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:53 PM
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32. He may get a lethal injection before that happens
Live by the sword....

Not that I would wish that on anyone, because I wouldn't. Still it is poetic that someone should have to live in the same type of fear they inflict on others.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:00 PM
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35. I feel bad for his 4 year old kid.
And of course for the poor murdered girl.
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