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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:43 PM Original message |
Great....my hospital's first baby of the New Year: mom is 8th grader |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. This is what we call "statutory rape" |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Agreed |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. 20 year dad and 15 year old girl. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #3 |
112. At least the state should force the father to pay for support |
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TEmperorHasNoClothes (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
199. why is a 15 yo still in 8th grade?? |
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eyesroll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Nah...it's almost never prosecuted unless the parents of the girl say so. |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. "... the boy's father, 20, who also lives with her mother." |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. You know Zale's feels like they dodged a bullet... |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
105. This Helps |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
111. It would be here too, but that is rarely prosecuted |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
4. That story says the father is 27 and the mother is 26. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Down in the story is the 15 yr old. Look about 1/2 way down. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Oh, sorry! Thanks. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. No problem, it took me aback at first also. Thought it odd, but found right part. eom |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. "YOUR daddy went to PRISON for making you" |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:27 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Too damn bad. It's a felony, like bank robbery and murder are felonies. |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #25 |
80. oh, good analogy |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. No, it's exactly a felony. As is bank robbing. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #82 |
220. Stealing something worth over $300.00 is also a felony. Are you saying that a human life is worth... |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #220 |
230. No, I'm saying that if you steal something worth over $300.00 you should go to jail |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 12:24 AM Response to Reply #230 |
243. Agreed, but I'm sure that you will conceed that the comparison to murder is a bit inept. eom |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 01:20 AM Response to Reply #243 |
248. Well, I won't concede that, judging from the sentencing trends, murder and rape |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 01:32 AM Response to Reply #248 |
250. There's a world of difference between something like statutory rape and forcible rape |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 01:40 AM Response to Reply #250 |
252. I won't be lobbying anyone for felons' sentences, that's what the courts are for. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 01:42 AM Response to Reply #252 |
253. That was a bit in jest, but I thought that my point was clear. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 01:44 AM Response to Reply #253 |
254. I have no opinion on childrearing in general, so no, I don't. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 01:46 AM Response to Reply #254 |
255. My question had nothing to do with childrearing. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 01:47 AM Response to Reply #255 |
256. I am qualifying my statement to include only adult felons. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 01:21 AM Response to Reply #220 |
249. No, I'm saying that stealing something is grounds for a prison term. Like murder. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 01:39 AM Response to Reply #249 |
251. As I said above, I agree - but just because two things are felonies doesn't mean that they are... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #82 |
281. And GENOCIDE!!! |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:52 PM Original message |
I don't get your point here. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. 15 is below the age of consent in TX. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:34 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Is that for real? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:35 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Hah? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. WTF? I didn't think it was... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. In you are asking that in response to my post why exactly? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:50 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. My apology. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:52 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Yes in fact I was inferring that authorities should be involved. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:55 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Who is the 'child'? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:56 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Yes 15 year old is a child under the law. Hello? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Unbelievable.. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:00 AM Response to Reply #29 |
50. No. A 20 year old is an adult and he needs to go to jail for having sex with a minor |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:08 AM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Thank goodness you all didn't.. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:29 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. what is it about sex and young kids.... hm. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #58 |
92. Perhaps I should have said.. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:10 AM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Sounds like your friends belong in jail. At least if they're adults |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #63 |
86. Sure does sound that way.. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #63 |
157. So do you support having Obama's father thrown in jail? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #157 |
183. Hah? His mother was 18 and married. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #183 |
225. No she was not married |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #157 |
202. Obama's father is dead. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #202 |
227. Deleted message |
Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #227 |
245. So you can't be a liberal if you oppose statutory rape. OK, I get it. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:34 AM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Yeah, I'm kindig of assuming that the 15 year old was taken advantage of by the 20 year old man. |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #56 |
71. That is the assumption, yes |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:35 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Addition: |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #71 |
100. 10 or 6? |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 06:07 AM Response to Reply #100 |
259. And how do you establish the difference between "abuse" and "sexually active"? |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #56 |
93. Are you fucking saying your friends are statutory rapists and you're ok with that? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #93 |
107. what I'm fucking saying... |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #107 |
170. According to the law. Statutory rape laws are there to protect minors. PERIOD. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #170 |
191. Yes..'protect' minors.. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #191 |
192. Oh I know more about statutory rape than you can possibly imagine. Thankfully your perception of |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #192 |
194. It is quite evident.. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #194 |
195. It's quite evident that you draw large conclusions from small portions of debate. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #195 |
209. If you are not commenting.. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #209 |
212. I was commenting on how flippantly you threw out there that your friends are statutory rapists and |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #212 |
214. I assume nothing.. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #214 |
216. You were 16 and the law is very gray on that matter. It isn't gray on 15 year olds involvment with |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #216 |
219. I was 15 when we met.. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #107 |
203. Have you been having sex with kids? |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #203 |
217. I'm beginning to wonder that myself. Me thinks that poster doth protest too much. n/t |
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marimour (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #56 |
117. totally see your point. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #117 |
131. It's sad that the first.. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #131 |
141. What is sad is that you fail to see the law says this is a crime. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #141 |
148. It's a wonderful thing.. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #148 |
155. I guess you are putting words into my mouth. Should be investigated and watched. |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #148 |
164. lotta calls to slam the barn doors shut, after the pants have come down..... |
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marimour (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #131 |
223. it sure is. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
140. You are fine with statuatory rape. Got it. Thanks for making that clear. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #140 |
150. No...I'm fine with.. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #150 |
156. Do you have a clue why there are stat rape laws not just for toddlers but teens? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #156 |
160. I don't have a clue? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. No, I am asking if you have a clue, not saying you don't have one. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #161 |
173. Have I a clue? Obviously.. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #173 |
177. It is about power and taking advantage of someone. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #177 |
188. More compatible than someone.. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:51 PM Response to Reply #188 |
237. What you are almost getting is what I write, now what you accuse me of. |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #56 |
197. What it is, is |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #50 |
84. It is in the baby's best interest to have parents. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #84 |
90. Oh gee. I don't know. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #84 |
113. What if Dad is a pedophile? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #113 |
240. I don't think a 20 year old sleeping with a 15 year old constitutes pedophilia |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #84 |
124. amazing how black and white the world is for some |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #124 |
166. exactly! n/t |
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marimour (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 02:09 AM Response to Reply #124 |
258. yep. |
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np33 (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 07:03 AM Response to Reply #258 |
262. Just because it was the |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:48 AM Response to Reply #29 |
62. One kid, one adult. People are talking about throwing the adult in jail. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
239. As someone who thinks the statutory rape laws are sometimes ridiculous... |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #23 |
120. Is she wearing a prairie dress & funny hair? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #120 |
142. They should investigate. They should. eom |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
134. when is her birthday? she might have been 14 at conception. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #134 |
267. And some here would still defend it as A-OK. (nt) |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
147. Yes. I am with you on this one. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #147 |
222. It looks like this young woman exercised her rights. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #222 |
238. She exercised her "right" to...sex with an older man, without my help? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. i dont believe she is 15. or she isnt an 8th grader. son is 13, 14 in april. |
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eyesroll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Sometimes kids get held back. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. I did too.... in fact a 20 year old was forced through |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 12:34 AM Response to Reply #20 |
244. The first year I taught, |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
24. that would mean she started a year late, AND was held back a year. |
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Contrary1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Could be that she immigrated from Mexico... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 08:44 AM Response to Reply #24 |
67. I have a 14 year old 7th grader this year |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #67 |
125. it seemed to help sensationalize the age differeces of the new parents |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
76. I turned 15 while in 8th grade |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. Is anyone offering $300,000 for a picture? |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
75. Sometimes hospitals give freebies to the babies |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Well, I heard about another baby . . . |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:52 PM Original message |
You only get $$$$ for a photo of your baby if the |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. lets make it sound worse by calling her an 8th grader |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. 8th graders are 13/14 |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. 13-14 is average, but it is common for some to start a yr later, esp with maturity issues. |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I was 12 and 13 in 8th grade |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:32 AM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Me too...I was 16 when I graduated.. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. 11 or 12 would be a 5th or 6th grader. A 15 year old should be a freshman or sophomore. nt |
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muntrv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Normal aged 8th grader is 13-14. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-01-09 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
13. Texas' state policies that require an abstinence-only approach to sex education in schools. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
27. Why the compulsion to throw |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Why not just wish them well. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. that's what happened back when.. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:46 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Oh I don't know. 15 is below the age of consent. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:53 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Is that really so heinous? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Werther it's heinous or not is not the question. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Well what is it then? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:00 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I don't think 17 year old could be arrested for statutory rape. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:03 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I give up. Throw him in jail. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:20 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Well it's not up to me, is it? |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:02 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. We can't change her age or send the baby back - so let's hope all works out for them. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #40 |
143. Issue is whether or not it is against the law. If you don't like the law, change it. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #143 |
152. The law is there for a reason.. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #152 |
182. So what reason would it be? Do tell. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #182 |
189. Okay...I'll tell... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #189 |
198. Oh gee. What does that have to do with the statutory rape law? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #198 |
207. You tell me... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #207 |
208. Laws vary from state to state. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #208 |
211. Nothing..let's review.. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #211 |
215. I don't think you have an understanding of what the law actually is. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #215 |
218. Jeez..I just read it.. |
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np33 (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 06:34 AM Response to Reply #40 |
260. I started a new drinking game |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #27 |
77. Minors are below the age of consent because |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #77 |
158. How young is too young? |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:21 PM Response to Reply #158 |
233. no one is trying to feel self-righteous. Someone |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:07 AM Response to Reply #27 |
110. The New Liberalism nm |
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frogbison (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
32. So. Ohio local news |
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Sultana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. I can't bear to read that |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:41 AM Response to Reply #32 |
61. self deleted |
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Sultana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
37. WTF? |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
44. Question: is this acceptable in Hispanic culture? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:56 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Well you see there are no different laws for different races or |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. depends on the family, I suppose.. |
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np33 (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
265. And you forgot Premartal sex |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #265 |
280. Unless the angel did it, premarital sex was pretty much a done deal |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:04 AM Response to Reply #44 |
55. I'm not going to give a yes or no |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #44 |
70. The age difference wouldn't be cause for concern |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #70 |
193. about tampons... |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #193 |
206. Yeah, it's bizarre. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
46. I'm sure Justin will be happy she "tried her best"..n/t |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
59. I was a sophmore in High School at 15 and knew a couple of girls who got pregnant. n/t |
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Joe the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
60. It would suck to have a kid at that age........... |
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AyanEva (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 03:02 AM Response to Original message |
65. I work in adult education |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
66. It's kind of disturbing that the girl makes it sound as if she had her mother's OK to get pregnant |
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marimour (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 02:05 AM Response to Reply #66 |
257. it probably didn't go like that. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
68. She won't be smiling in six months |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:35 AM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Mom and cousin will be raising the baby |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #72 |
229. Very good point |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
69. the father is 20 and lives with her........ |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #69 |
79. I was 15 in 8th grade |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #79 |
83. In my experience, 15 year old 8th graders frequently have developmental disabilities. |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #83 |
279. Or her grade level could be reflective of a lot of other things. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #79 |
85. Did you also have a 20 year old sleeping in your bed every night? |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #85 |
89. no. He was 19. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:46 AM Original message |
A 19 year old sharing a bedroom and a home with a 15 year old.... |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
99. you know nothing about my family. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Have a happy new year ! |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. I give up checking the temp in the winter |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Agreed |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #69 |
81. I wonder how well they will all get along |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
74. babies having babies |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
87. Does 'one man and one child' count for |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
88. The dad is 5 years older than the mom. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Tell it to FLDS. |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #91 |
94. I think the diff there is that the FDLS girls are coerced and abused. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Oh gee. If the girls themselves don't say so, whatever makes you think |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Oh come on now... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #96 |
98. So unless she belongs to FLDS, a 14 year old might like having |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #98 |
106. Here's what I'm trying to say: |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #106 |
115. You know, if the state of TX cares so much about under aged |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #115 |
126. "'pervasive pattern' of sexual abuse through forced marriages between underage girls and older men." |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #126 |
135. Oh gee. I guess you missed this from the article. |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #135 |
149. What the hell are you talking about? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #149 |
174. Actually, I was responding to your post in which you seemed to |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #94 |
127. Prove that statement with something one of them have said |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. The similarities between the two examples are staggering. |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #130 |
133. Staggering in what way? |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #133 |
138. And what exactly ended up happening to the FLDS teens? Or anyone else on that compound? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. You mean you haven't heard? CPS took all of them away from |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #139 |
154. Exactly, they had to give them back. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #154 |
171. As it stands now, the age of marriage with parental consent in TX |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #171 |
184. No it isn't a joke. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. Well their leader Mr. Jeffs has been convicted of |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #186 |
190. Honestly this starting to be comical. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #190 |
196. I have no clue as why you would think I am using Mr. Jeffs |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #196 |
200. Well I'm not overly interested in doing the research, especially since I didn't bring them up. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #200 |
201. Don't want to talk about FLDS, fine. |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #201 |
205. I'm of the opinion as many others on this thread, that this is a grey area. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
97. yes, she wont think its so cool in a few months |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
104. I blame the parents for not having bought an Apple. |
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Chisox08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
108. Now why isn't that child molesting father in jail again? |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
109. Did she name it Tripp? |
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pinstikfartherin (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
114. Wow, so my dad should have gone to jail? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #114 |
116. Depends on the law at the time. |
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renate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #114 |
137. I hope this baby's parents are as responsible as yours |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
118. relationship between a 15 and 20 year old falls into a grey area for me. |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #118 |
144. yeah it's hard to find other young adults, 18 or above, to go to bed with when you're 20... |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #144 |
151. guess you missed the point - |
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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #118 |
185. Yeah. I've been in a similar(ish) situation |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
119. Someone call CPS |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #119 |
121. From the article, sounds like authorities have already been notified. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #121 |
146. Being in the news, seems CPS would be notified. If police were, CPS was |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #119 |
145. Only if the town acted in collusion. And hopefully CPS has now been notified |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
122. As a twenty year old I was smart enough not to mess with anyone under 17. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 01:12 AM Response to Reply #122 |
246. According to the conventional wisdom on this thread... |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
123. OMG!! |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
128. Fact: 15 year old girls do have a sex life, and they usually prefer older boys (in their 20's yes) |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #128 |
136. Well you might see no crime, but it might be against the law, |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #136 |
241. There also used to be laws saying that black people had to go to the back of the bus |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 11:13 PM Response to Reply #128 |
242. I think it should depend on the situation |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
129. As the teenaged mom of a son born |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #129 |
132. sounds like you did alright if they turned out capable of learning from your mistake |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
153. Wasn't PE Obama born of a unwed teenage mother? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #153 |
165. From what I understand, his mother was married |
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Brewman_Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #153 |
178. Not the whole story |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #178 |
224. Try again |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #224 |
231. Gee so you admit Obama wasn't born to unwed mother? |
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Brewman_Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #224 |
234. You fail |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #234 |
272. It's kind of shocking the lengths some on this thread are going to |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
159. Why does the boy's father still live anywhere outside a jail? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #159 |
162. It was surely statutory rape, but what would be the point of prosecuting him at this stage? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. And what is the point of having a law if it's not enforced? |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #163 |
172. There are lots of laws that go unenforced |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #163 |
176. I think the issue comes down to weighing the benefits and drawbacks of enforcement |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #176 |
179. So should CPS be watching this family? Not send the father to jail, but make sure they have the |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #179 |
180. CPS should intervene only if the family needs help |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #163 |
204. are you serious? |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #204 |
228. How wise you are!!! |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #162 |
169. Yes, you're probably right |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
167. If the dad goes to jail, her next kid will have a different dad. |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
168. watch for the new family to make the morning talk show rounds... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #168 |
175. As they are apparently being reported to the authorities by the |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #175 |
181. which I disagree with--too UNnuanced. |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
187. I don't find this to be rape |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
210. It is rape in Texas unless they are married. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #210 |
213. In TX one can marry at 16 with parental consent. |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
221. Lovely. Happy New Year. |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
226. Her Body, Her Choice |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #226 |
232. What an absurd thing to say. |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #232 |
235. Agreed. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 01:13 AM Response to Reply #226 |
247. How the hell did you manage to get nearly 700 posts? |
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Brewman_Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-02-09 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
236. These do not always turn out well |
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np33 (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 06:57 AM Response to Reply #236 |
261. Okay people listen up |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #261 |
264. Using your logic, we should be putting the girls having babies in prison. Problem solved. |
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np33 (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #264 |
266. So the teen pregnancy epidemic |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #266 |
269. Two different issues. |
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np33 (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #269 |
270. What are you talking about |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #270 |
273. You most certainly are advocating prison sentences to alleviate the teen pregnancy problem. |
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babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #273 |
274. Are you really that |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #274 |
276. This is hopeless. |
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np33 (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #276 |
277. Wait let me get this staight |
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np33 (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #276 |
278. I'm curious |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #278 |
283. I like the Canadian model, personally. |
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RidinMyDonkey (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
263. I was with a 21 year old man when I was 16... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #263 |
268. Out of curiosity... how old are you now? (nt) |
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np33 (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #263 |
271. That's a big leap of faith |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
275. As someone who is deeply involved in the hispanic community,This isn't that uncommon |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-03-09 05:50 PM Response to Reply #275 |
282. Whatever the laws are in Mexico, when you are in US, you have |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #275 |
284. I wanna say that I read she moved here 5 years ago.. |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #284 |
285. It's been my experience |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-04-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #285 |
286. Where did you get the info that she speaks through the translator? |
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