Does anyone Irish or Irish decent want to puke watching Londoners protest

[RB TexLa]

with signs saying "free Palestine."

[Captain Hilts]

1. The irony is amazing. I always like to read the Irish Times for Middle East news. nt

[DavidDvorkin]

2. You mean Britain still occupies Ireland? I didn't know that!

Or perhaps you're referring to Ulster, where the majority hasn't expressed a desire to become part of the Irish Republic. Or should they be forced to, anyway?

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[HeraldSquare212]

6. But isn't Ulster mostly resettled area?

[Critters2]

7. Yes. SCots forced there by the British. My ancestors were Scots-Irish,

and never thought of themselves as Irish. They were victims of British Imperialism as much as the Irish were.

[pnwmom]

14. The majority in Northern Ireland are the descendants of British subjects who

were sent to Ireland from Great Britain. Not surprisingly, when the Irish Republic came into being, these people weren't interested in joining it, but preferred to remain as a part of Great Britain.

[Critters2]

20. The majority were sent from Scotland, after their land was stolen

by the British in the Highland clearances. The Brits haven't exactly been kind to them, but they have more to fear from the Irish. The proverbial "lesser of two evils".

[DavidDvorkin]

29. Would it be more accurate to say "the English" in this case?

Or were lowland Scots involved in that, as well?

[Critters2]

30. My bad. You're right, It was the English. nt

[pnwmom]

31. I realize that. I didn't say the majority were English, I said they were British subjects.

Scotland is part of Great Britain.

If they feel they have "more to fear" from the Irish, it's because they know they were planted on Irish land.

[marmar]

3. Londoners are a multicultural group hailing from every corner of the globe.....

..... a Londoner is just as likely to be of Indian, Jamaican, Lebanese or Chinese descent as of Anglo-Saxon stock, which is what I assume you're referring to.
So I don't know that your paradigm applies.

[Mudoria]

4. It's always easier to protest for things that are far away

and will never actually effect you. Now those nasty Paddy's now.. that's another story.

[LeftishBrit]

8. There has been peace in Northern Ireland for some years now.

Martin McGuiness, the leader of Sinn Fein, seems reasonably happy with it, so I don't quite see why you are seeking to reignite the issue.

In fact, the Northern Ireland agreement could to some extent be seen as an inspiration for ultimate solutions through negotiations elsewhere, e.g. Israel/Palestine.

In any case, a demonstration in London is likely to be ethnically diverse and would by no means consist exclusively of WASPS.

[RB TexLa]

9. Everyone's happy with it. Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

[Critters2]

12. So, the Irish in Texas are pretty pissed off, eh? nt

[RB TexLa]

13. Humm, I guess there is no documented reason so many had to leave Ireland

and come here. But just act as nothing happened. And you mentioned earlier how people want to be governed? Really

[Critters2]

16. The oppression of the Irish is really that harsh in Texas? I had no idea. nt

[RB TexLa]

17. Oh, you are just wanting to run your smartass mouth. Have fun.

[Critters2]

21. Thank! You have fun, too! Say "Hi" to all the suffering Irish in the Lone Star State!

:hi:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. I'll bet that there are a lot of Irish protesting for Palestinian liberation.

Just as there were Brits who protested for Irish liberation.

My grandmother was born in raised in County Mayo and was there for rebellion and civil war which bears some striking similarities to the Palestinian struggle.

[sui generis]

11. why? do londoners have genetic memory?

why all the hatfield / mccoy? Humanism does not require citizenship to participate, and defines itself in the present, not by history, and not by social group.

[Gwendolyn]

15. As someone else pointed out, seems to be a diverse group.

Nothing puke worthy really.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/12/416214.html

[LanternWaste]

18. No.

No-- not at all.

[NashVegas]

19. What Do You Think They'd Be Doing Right Now If London Was Bombing Ulster Catholics?

[RB TexLa]

22. You honestly think they wouldn't support that? You know after they blasted something themselves

to justify it.

[dmallind]

23. Yeah all those Schmidts and Wisniewski's celebrating St Patrick's day are pissed I tell you

Every single one of them has felt the sting of English hegemony from Drogheda to the H block. Yessirree.

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[dmallind]

25. By which standard

I will forever stand against the Scandinavians who took over my ancestral part of England and slaughtered the people there? OR thr Romans perhaps who did the same, or the Norman French, or the Angles and Saxons from Germany? I mean how far back do you want to go here?

[grassfed]

26. how about 1948?

The MSM pushes the "ancient feud" myth about Israel when the Palestinians were expelled at gunpoint in 1948. It is not an ancient religious battle.

[Mari333]

27. hey I know a lot of Brits who are on the Irish side of it all

and think England should leave Ireland alone. so there are some. but yes, the irony.

[baby_mouse]

28. Not really.

Why? Should we?

[anigbrowl]

32. Not in the least.

I'm Irish, and I used to live in London. For one thing, Palestinians have never carried out any major attacks in London in the name of striking at Israel (although there has been some Islamic terrorism there); by contrast, the IRA and its contemporaries carried out quite a lot of terrorism in London. For another, there's a lot of Palestinians in London, and 'the Palestine problem' is a popular cause among socialist types and has been for a long time. There's a lot of Irish too but one's rights to live, work and prosper in the UK aren't limited in any way by having Irish nationality (unless you had your heart set on joining MI5 or suchlike).

For a third thing, while Britain's policies in Northern Ireland have often been both regressive and repressive, they've never come anywhere near the level of military intensity currently taking place in the Middle East.