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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 09:24 PM
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Guardian UK: 95-year-old philanthropist loses $550m in Madoff fraud
95-year-old philanthropist loses $550m in Madoff fraud

Andrew Clark in New York
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 16 December 2008 19.35 GMT


A 95-year-old Boston clothing tycoon, Carl Shapiro, looks set to be the biggest single victim of Bernard Madoff's fund management scam by losing up to $545m (£357m) at the hands of the Wall Street fraudster.

A respected philanthropist, Shapiro entrusted much of his wealth to Madoff and had $400m of his own money in the disgraced financier's firm, plus $145m from his family's charitable foundation.

With court-appointed liquidators winding up Madoff's business, investors' money appears unlikely to be recovered. A long-standing Wall Street fixture, Madoff stunned the financial community last week by confessing that his fund had lost $50bn and was built on "one big lie". Charged with fraud, he has been bailed on a bond of $10m.

An eclectic list of victims is forming. Hampshire county council revealed today that it had £7.1m tied up in Madoff's firm, although it stressed that this was a only a slice of its £2.4bn pension fund. .........(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/dec/16/bernard-madoff-usa




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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 09:27 PM
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1. Can he get a life sentence for this?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 09:29 PM
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2. Probably will get a pResidential pardon instead.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 09:41 PM
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5. Not even close.
Hell, the maximum fine is $15mil.

Forget restitution.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 09:30 PM
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3. If a 95 year old philanthropist killed madoff, would he be acquited?
I'm just askin'.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 09:40 PM
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4. How did he get $10 mil bail if he has lost everybody's money and is in debt to them?
That $10 mil can't be his anymore. He should be locked up on Rikers Island with all the other thieves. Let him taste his medicine. I suppose he is in his apartment on the internet transferring funds now.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 09:43 PM
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6. Probably so..
I suppose he is in his apartment on the internet transferring funds now.

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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 09:43 PM
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7. I read that he is down to his last $200-300million.
They cannot freeze his assetts without some sort of judgement.

Just watch, he'll get maybe 5 years and a maximum $15million fine (that is the maximum on the fine).
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 09:48 PM
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8. "The media billionaire Mort Zuckerman has lost money."
Wonder how Mort's opinions on "the new economy" and deregulation have changed because of this....
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 09:52 PM
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9. He's under house arrest in his $7.5 mil NYC apartment.
I'll bet he's really suffering.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 10:10 PM
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10. But only from 9pm to 7am or vice versa.
He even got to pick his own guards.

Where did all these one-sided legal procedures come from?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 11:02 PM
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12. They come from having
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 10:49 PM
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11. Being prejudiced towards someone is just as unreasonable as being prejudiced against someone
Be it on the basis of race, religion, language, nationality, or social status.
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