Pastor Rick Warren Likens Gays To Pizza - Ann Curry was "startled"!

[1776Forever]

After the camera's stopped rolling Warren told this to Curry:

Pastor Rick Warren Likens Gays To Pizza

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-young/pastor-rick-warren-likens_b_152637.html

'Just because I like pizza it doesn't mean I should marry it"

In an interview with Ann Curry on NBC's Dateline, Evangelist Preacher, Rick Warren, who is set to deliver the invocation at Barack Obama's inauguration, equated gays getting married to eating pizza everyday.

"Mr. Warren's relating gays to pedophiles, incest and gay marriage to his incessant craving of sex with women he was not married to caught me a little off guard.," said Ms Curry, "But after the camera stopped filming he went on to make the comparison of gays to pizza, I must say, I was startled."

"Just because I like pizza it doesn't mean I should marry it," said Warren. "Biologically, I am predisposed to enjoy the immaculate melding of mozzarella cheese, red sauce and thick crust baked to tasty perfection. But that doesn't mean I should enter into a lifelong commitment with Sicilian or plain, nor bed it down, nor..

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http://steveyoungonpolitics.com/rick-warren-likens-gays-to-pizza/

Award-winning TV writer, Steve Young is author of "Great Failures of the Extremely Successful" (greatfailure.com) and blogs at the appropriately named, steveyoungonpolitics.com.

[cali]

1. I saw that interview. Ann Curry couldn't have kissed Warren's ass more

if she'd tried. She was disgustingly deferential and adoring toward Warren.

[1776Forever]

3. This protion is in regard to after the interview was over and the camera was off.

I thought I saw Ann Curry's face scrunch up when Warren talked about wanting to screw all the beautiful women he sees. I think she was stunned by his remarks and in this article she is quoted as being "startled".

[Jennicut]

28. I don't think so, letting someone talk hands the rope directly to themselves

Like Chris Mattews did with that nut from Minnesota.

[billyoc]

2. I'm thinking "American Pie III"...

:rofl:

[MineralMan]

4. If that's the case, I hope

the cheese blisters his junk. Of course, that's assuming he can even find it under the belly overhang.

[Jamastiene]

11. ...

:spray:

[1776Forever]

13. He is totally a weird and crazy guy isn't he? Maybe we can get Steve Martin to star in it.

[Dennis Donovan]

5. Warren disgusts me more with each nugget of info I read...

WTF is WRONG with this guy?*:puke:

(* rhetorical - I know what's wrong with him...)

[alfredo]

6. For most of my life I have been in a loving relationship with pizza.

[Shiver]

23. I have several pizzas as close, personal friends.

I've even been to dinner with them! :evilgrin:

[alfredo]

47. I carry them around on my hips

[vanlassie]

66. Well now we know what to throw at him.

[alfredo]

67. Looks like Warren has had a long relationship with a double cheese pizza.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

7. I'll bet cash-money something Haggard-like is going to come out about Warren.

Perhaps another diaper-wearing scandal like with our buddy Vitter. Or something Foley-esque. Just hope it's SOON.

My creep-o-meter is off the charts with this guy, and why Obama wants a creep delivering the invocation at his historic inauguration is beyond me...

[madokie]

12. yep

[Critters2]

58. Agreed. This guy is just waiting for his ego to bring him down.

So am I.

[xchrom]

8. recommend

[Fumesucker]

9. When the moon's in the sky like a big pizza pie, that's amore

A New Zealander man with a very dark tan
That's a Maori

A big ugly eel with jaws just like steel,
That's a Moray..

[peekaloo]

30. when I read all the shit

from this sick hypocrite
it's a foray

into the mind of a punk
equating food and his junk
and a fear of teh gay


edit: special thanks to Fumesucker for bringing me up to speed ;-)

[Fumesucker]

35. Your last line should read : and a fear of teh gay ...

Otherwise, great job.

[peekaloo]

45. !

:D

[Jamastiene]

49. One Rick Warren Pizza Pie, coming right up.

:P

[Jamastiene]

10. Hmmm, he likes pizza, huh? Maybe, he shouldn't partake so much in one of the 7 deadly sins then.

:grr:

What an asshole he is.

[Dennis Donovan]

14. Thou shalt not hump thy neighbor's pizza?

:D

I know - you meant gluttony...;)

[DevonRex]

16. *snort*

[SammyWinstonJack]

19. .

:spray:

[Shiver]

25. 'Thou shalt not steal the last slice'

(BTW, the seven deadly sins are different from the Ten Commandments :P )

[Jamastiene]

34. ...

:spray:

[DevonRex]

39. I have a hard enough time eating delivery pizza, just imagining

the way the pizza shop kitchen looks. Now I don't think I'll ever eat a delivery pizza again. And it might be a while before I eat ANY pizza.

[DevonRex]

15. I'm really glad he's being exposed for the hatefull nutcase he is.

Think of all those people who bought his books and think he's just dandy. They're getting their eyes opened now. He's nothing but a jollier Dobson. And you know what, he might even say stupider stuff than Dobson does.

At first Warren was more dangerous because he had an appealing personality to some people and he hid his homophobia in at least his first book. Everybody loved him so he was more likely to draw in the evangelical who was uncomfortable with all of Dobson's anti-gay books and stuff.

But now people can see him for what he is. A hateful nut. So, where do the folks who wish to be led around by a fundy minister go from here? Joel Osteen maybe? Who knows anything about him?

As an aside, my fundy family doesn't think Warren is a REAL fundy. He's too liberal for them. *sigh*

[JustAnotherGen]

20. I don't believe in Revelations, the anti-christ, etc. etc.

But Warren sure does make me wonder! :-)

[DevonRex]

38. Neither do I, heh heh.

This guy is some kind of crazy, isn't he? :)

[Olney Blue]

17. I smell an anchovy.

[1776Forever]

27. As do I - Good one :)

[Critters2]

60. LOL!! nt

[DemoTex]

18. Warren now transcends "sick." The man is insane.

How many crazy, totally gratuitous statements like the pizza reference does it take? The more he talks, the crazier he sounds. I think Warren is very close to hanging himself, figuratively speaking, but it might not be done in time to keep him off the inaugural platform.

[lies and propaganda]

21. Are you fucking kidding me>?

I clicked the link but i want to see the interview itself.. What a nut

[Mari333]

22. Rick chooses his own sins ...........Poorly:

Proverbs 23:20-21 warns us, "Do not join those who drink too much wine or gorge themselves on meat, for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and drowsiness clothes them in rags." Proverbs 28:7 declares, "He who keeps the law is a discerning son, but a companion of gluttons disgraces his father." Proverbs 23:2 proclaims, "put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."

We are not to let our appetites control us, but rather we are to have control over our appetites. (See Deuteronomy 21:20, Proverbs 23:2, 2 Peter 1:5-7, 2 Timothy 3:1-9, and 2 Corinthians 10:5.) The ability to say “no” to anything in excess—“self-control”—is one of the fruits of the Spirit common to all believers (Galatians 5:22).

[rucky]

24. Tombstone Warren, Skinner!

Can you do that to non-members, too?

[Jamastiene]

36. That was my first thought too.

I would love it if he'd make a Rick Warren then TS it just for us.

In the meantime,

[rucky]

52. That'll Do!

nice work!

[Starry Messenger]

65. That is full of win.

[VoodooGuru]

68. Here you go, one tombstone coming right up.

[opihimoimoi]

26. He is making Sarah look brilliant....this Warren dude is an AIRHEAD

Empty rants with empty talk....

[tblue37]

51. No wonder so many Americans love him. nt

[1776Forever]

56. Can you really fool all the people (in his congregation) all the time?

Hmmmm - Will be interesting to see how this shakes out.

:hide:

[Lyric]

29. Ooh boy. That just adds a whole new, potentially kinky dimension

to the idea of receiving a "granite pizza."

:evilgrin:

[Jamastiene]

37. Muahahaha,

[Cirque du So-What]

31. Choosing an entrée compared to sexuality?

Not only is that one of the stupidest analogies I've ever heard, but it speaks volumes about this hog-headed MF. I get the impression that the 'good' rev. hasn't had any serious challenges to his fucked-up theology since earning his degree. Perhaps the faculty at seminary deferred to Warren as a 'legacy' or as a wunderkind due to his father & grandfather being ministers - don't know, don't care. I DO know that it's time for progressive theologians to speak out against Warren's brand of bigotry & hatred in order to show the world that Hoghead Warren does not speak for all of Xianity.

[tinrobot]

32. If Obama hadn't picked Warren, Ann Curry wouldn't be "startled"

I like that such a normal reporter is using such language in regards to Warren. It will wake the rest of the country up.

I think the media spotlight that is being shined on Warren is turning out to be a good thing.

[1776Forever]

33. I totally agree with you - I had no idea what Warren & his Church were all about until now.

Unfortunately it seems that President-elect Obama has been sold down the river with the same impression that I held before this open communication occurred. I can only hope that someone is informing him of the information and someone is really concerned about the amount of disastrous beliefs this man and his followers hold true.

[DevonRex]

41. I think it is great that Warren is being interviewed so folks can know

his beliefs are totally hateful and crazy.

[mondo joe]

40. There it is. Obama choosing Warren gives him a national platform. It's not just the

invocation.

[Ian David]

42. I don't think Rick Warren has ever met a pizza he didn't like. n/t

[man4allcats]

43. I'm confused here.

When Warren says:

"Just because I like pizza it doesn't mean I should marry it," ... "Biologically, I am predisposed to enjoy the immaculate melding of mozzarella cheese, red sauce and thick crust baked to tasty perfection. ..."

is this perhaps the surfacing of an unconscious and "biologically predisposed" desire on his part to try a PIECE of that gay pizza he keeps going on about? And shouldn't he also order a side of homophobic inclinations to complete his dining experience? Methinks there is more going on under the psychological sheets of this boy than meets the eye - or is it "I" or who really is his "I" anyway?

[kenny blankenship]

44. This dovetails pretty well with his reduction of love to anatomical friction

which I explored here

The gist of the "pizza" argument that he's struggling to articulate is that physical pleasure is not the basis of a socially sanctioned relationship. Only God's instruction to get married and have babies can be the basis of a socially recognized legally sanctioned relationship.

Like all homophobes, he reduces same-sex desire to sensory stimulation and physical acts performed on mucus membranes. If Warren ever acknowledges that there is something of an inner intangible, spiritual, psychological nature which draws men and women together in relationship and causes them to need each other, and it's not clear that he does, he refuses to accord the same possibility to homosexuals--that there might be something that would draw us to another of our own gender, even if sex was made impossible. And there you have the root argument of the religious bigots who deny us our full humanity. We try to explain what we are on the inside, they insist none of that exists because it doesn't say so in the Bible. Quite a lot of other things don't exist in the Bible, such as the Western Hemisphere and a spherical Earth, a heliocentric solar system, evolution and the double stranded helix of deoxyribonucleic acid that makes all life possible --but no matter. The Bible is the authority on everything. Bible scholars could have discovered penicillin, electricity, and split the atom unaided by the ungodly whisperings of "empirical science", and just as quickly, but they were just focused on other things.

Whatever else you might say about him it has to be acknowledged that he is a crude, bestial man. I hope that everyone can come to understand that, like all religious totalitarians, he is also a very dangerous man -- dangerous to minorities, and dangerous to democracy.

[1776Forever]

54. After reading your fascinating post I did more digging in the Warren "sex & pizza" analogy - Read on

It seems that this is something that Garth Brooks once said too (nothing against Garth):

Quote from:

Emotional Analogies and Analogical Inference

Paul Thagard and Cameron Shelley

http://cogsci.uwaterloo.ca/Articles/Pages/emotional-analogies.html

"country music star Garth Brooks: "My job is like what people say about pizza and sex: When it's good, it's great; and even when it's bad, it's still pretty good." Note that this is a multiple analogy, for what its worth."

...........

I am not surprised if Warren had heard this referenced at one time or another. Not to say maybe this isn't even where he came up with it but it sounds like something he was trying to get at. I agree totally with all you said about him being crude. When he said he wanted to have sex with all the pretty women he sees I about fell of my chair! Wonder what his wife thinks about that line? It is one thing to admire an attractive person, but a married man, let alone a Preacher, saying he admits he wants to lay ever good looking woman he sees? Weird to say the least!

:silly:

[EFerrari]

72. That's really interesting. I bet you're right.

Warren's boundaries seem to be cr@p, to me anyway. He's completely ill as ease and somewhat unintelligible as soon as he has to be spontaneous -- as if it takes up too much energy to keep himself together, with nothing much left over to really interact with people.

[EFerrari]

70. That he went straight to orality tells you something about his maturational level.

Which is, of course, why he called his critics "immature". Transparent as possible and yes, dangerous as well.

[otohara]

46. Obama Respects This Guy?

why?

Obama is such a smart man, how can he listen to comments like this and be impressed?

[Mark Twain Girl]

48. WTH? This man is not merely a hatemonger, he's a nutjob. nt

[GodDamLiberal]

50. The rick warren pizza

This will make him change his mind

[madeline_con]

53. Reply to Op and #7, methinks he doth protest too much.

Dirt diggers, hgurry! Get pics of this closeted jerk.

[stevedeshazer]

55. Bask in the crimson glowing gullibility of DU, 1776Forever!

That was a funny piece. Nicely played.

[1776Forever]

57. Do you think this was a spoof? I didn't find anything about that on the Huffington Post

I know Mr. Young is known for his writings that are outlined here - if I did get spoofed so be it:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Pastor-Rick-Warren-Compare-by-steve-young-081221-794.html

Steve has appeared all over national TV and radio with his unique brand of satirical punditry and social observations appearing in national periodicals from the Los Angeles Times and The New York Times, to his own weekly Internet column "The Lords Of Loud," at AlbionMonitor.net and The Huffington Post.

[stevedeshazer]

61. It really sounds like a spoof to me, and I thought that's what you meant, too.

Tongue-in-cheek is how I read it, but maybe I'm the one here missing something. Or not.

:)

[1776Forever]

64. I checked twice on Huffington Post and then again on Young's website - seems others are taking this

for the truth too. I guess if it was a spoof then we were all fooled. But it is hard for me to think he would have used Ann Curry as a reference in "quotes" without her permission and some kind of mention of this being false. It will be interesting to see if we hear from Ann Curry about this. I tried to find more from her but found nothing. It did seem logical after the interview Warren gave Curry.

:shrug:

[kenny blankenship]

75. If you follow the link to the full version it becomes clear that it is a spoof

I didn't follow it beyond what's reprinted here, but what's reprinted here is very much in line with what he said in the interview with Larry King.

The argument that gays can't be married because their relationship is strictly based on pleasure (like smoking or eating pizza) and pleasure is not why God instituted marriage (pleasure is of course bad) is a live fundamentalist virus that can be found in the wild. Of course, this intentionally reduces gay people and their relationship to only what you can see in a gay porno movie, and with that our personhood vanishes into thin air.

Unless maybe this part, which is called out at the top like an actual quote, really is an actual quote:
“Just because I like pizza it doesn’t mean I should marry it”

and after that Steve Young just went crazy and invented the rest, which gets progressively more outrageous letting the reader know it's satire.

[stevedeshazer]

76. That's what I thought, too

Glad I'm not the only one.

[NoodleyAppendage]

59. Rick Warren just wishes that someone would have sex with his FAT ASS.

Mark my words, this typical Christofascist dick will be involved in some sort of sex scandal in the next 5-10 years.

J

[Kitsune]

62. This man really is a complete fuckwit. What the hell does Obama see in him? *nt*

[gratuitous]

63. Okay, Warren either doesn't understand or is a bigot

I think we can agree on that. What I just flat don't understand is why he continues to receive such a respectful hearing from all the media outlets. Curry says, well after the fact, that she was "startled," though by this time I would expect just about anyone to be ready for this kind of nonsense. When a racist says racist things such as "some of my best friends" or that this person or that person is "a real credit to his race," the highly-paid camera-talkers know what to say.

But they haven't got the foggiest fuck of a notion how to respond in real time to Warren's particular brand of hate? How do they justify those fat paychecks? As soon as the cameras stop rolling, do they enter some kind of sealed baggie of ignorance and eerything just goes away? Doesn't a thought seep into their little pea-brains that says, "Gee, the next time someone comes on the air and recycles this tired old fear and hatred, I'm going to call them on it."

Because if not, Ann Curry (and Matt Lauer and Diane Sawyer and all the rest of you overpaid fuckheads), why not?

[XanaDUer]

69. And he uses sports analogies to explain religion

http://www.saddlebackfamily.com/class/index.html

What a fucktwit. :eyes:

[leftstreet]

71. What body part does Warren have that fits a pizza?

Must not think on this any longer.

x(

[QC]

73. That is very unkind of her to act startled. She must reach out with respect,

not treat him like he is in some way unworthy of her highest admiration!

[jberryhill]

74. There are some things that people put on pizza which are a crime against nature

Pineapple, for instance.

Pineapple on pizza is an abomination.

(although the Bible itself would forbid cheese and meat on the same pie)

[Toucano]

77. Breathtaking Ignorance.

I have come around.

The selection of a moron to give the inagural oration is Obama's first misstep. I don't care how many starving children he has fed. How someone so ignorant could manage to reach 54 years of age is a mystery to me.