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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:43 PM
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Ferraro: "Caroline Kennedy is not Ready for the Senate"
No one comment till I get my asbestos suit on, please.

CAROLINE SLAP
GERRY: SHE'S NOT READY

December 20, 2008


Geraldine Ferraro gave a thumbs down to Caroline Kennedy's bid for the Senate yesterday - even as the Camelot daughter won her biggest endorsement for the job, The Post has learned.

Ferraro, the first woman nominee for vice president, sent a letter to Gov. Paterson urging him to instead appoint one of New York's six sitting female Congress members to replace Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Senate.

At the same time, Brooklyn Democratic Party head Vito Lopez, who leads the biggest county party in the city, issued the first formal endorsement for Kennedy.

Ferraro said it's not time for on-the-job training while New York faces a fiscal crisis.

"You can't send someone down there who doesn't know the issues," Ferraro told The Post. "If you send someone down there who doesn't know the legislative process, they'll get chewed up alive."

"Our senator should be ready on Day 1," added Ferraro. "Just knowing people down there ? It's just not enough."


Okay, I'm all geared up. Start you engines!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:45 PM
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1. at this point, I'd say Gerry is a bit over-cooked when it comes to politics
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:46 PM
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2. Ok, thanks Geraldine.
I'll put you down for "does... not... like..." -- really, Geraldine, that's all we need from you "Caroline... for... the..." Geraldine!

You still here? Shoo!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:46 PM
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3. If Geraldine Ferraro hates her
I might have to change my mind.

Maybe she IS the best candidate after all... :D
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:06 PM
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17. I'll bet that Gerry has her own dog in this fight, but I don't know.
Is she pulling for Andrew Cuomo?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 07:44 PM
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52. I'm right there with you
She just had to stick her nose in it. grrrr.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:46 PM
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4. Kennedy: Ferraro wasnt ready to be Vice President
These Clinton supporters need to get a life.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:49 PM
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5. Who cares what that Mafia Diva thinks?
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:11 PM
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21. she's in the mafia because she's Italian?-- better reign in that bigotry dude.
Unbelievable -- all the stereotyping and bigotry flooding DU these days. :puke:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:14 PM
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24. Nope She's in the Mafia because she's dirty and it came out a few years after she ran
Her husband - granted it's he that's guilty, but that would make her "married to the mob" as well
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makinguphumans Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:50 PM
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6. I think she should continue her listening tour of NY and campaign in 2 years
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:56 PM
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9. Probably a good idea
But since I don't live in NY I'm trying to stay neutral on this.
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:07 PM
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40. But then she would
be facing an incumbent Democrat.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:54 PM
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7. Ferraro is sort of right
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 03:55 PM by Alcibiades
Not that being in the Senate is rocket science. They have staffers who know the legislative process, and I am sure Kennedy is competent on the issues.

Having said that, I am sure that New York must have someone a little more seasoned to offer.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:05 PM
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37. Ferraro is also in a position to note CK's lack of participation in NYS Dem politics.
CK hasn't even contributed money to NYS Dems, oddly enough.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:43 PM
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48. some folks tried to use the same words about Obama....
just sayin'.

As for Geraldine....she lost my respect during the primaries with her racist small-mindedness. How can someone like THAT be respected? I dunno.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 09:21 PM
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59. I agree with you about the primary comments
She condemned herself to a footnote in the margin of the history of our party with her Rovian behavior.

Though folks may have said those sorts of things about Obama, they were wrong. The main thing is that the Senate was not an entry-level job for Obama. He'd held and won office before, and he won his Senate seat in an election. To ask be appointed to the Senate when you've never been elected to any position before seems, at the minimum, unfair to the many, many elected officeholders of New York who probably have a better claim, based on their record as elected politicians.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:55 PM
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8. Ferraro's opinion holds no weight with me
n/t
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:58 PM
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11. No, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. I agree with Ferraro.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:01 PM
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14. The "Broken Clock" wing of the party.
Chaired by Lieberman.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:10 PM
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19. If you're trying to associate Lieberman with me..You're way off
Sorry if it offends you, but I had this opinion regarding Caroline Kennedy long before i heard anything from GF.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:26 PM
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28. Lieberman Lover!
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:43 PM
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33. Yeaaahhhhhh...aghghghgh!
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:57 PM
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10. Has anyone asked Harriet the Harpie what her opinion is yet?
Probably something about an "inadequate Catholic girl" or words to that effect :eyes:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:58 PM
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12. Who?
Geraldine Ferraro is so way past her fifteen minutes of, not fame, but relevance.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:58 PM
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13. Geraldine who??? - n/t
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:02 PM
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15. Yes, I agree we need more professional politicians in our government...
Look how well the qualified politicians have run our government.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:06 PM
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16. And she wasn't ready for the vice presidency
so there you have it.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:09 PM
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18. weird. Did she support Hillary when she got the job?
personally, I don't think the experience argument is always valid. It was in Palin's case because she proved herself woefully unqualified to do anything but be the repuke viagra spokemodel.

otherwise, I think most people with the right set of wisdom, public service attitude and desire to move things forward are qualified.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:11 PM
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20. Hillary CAMPAIGNED for the job.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:13 PM
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22. yes, I know. I'm not sure how that negates what I said, though.
people campaign all the time who have no experience. I was speaking about the concept of "experience" in general, not whether someone campaigns or is appointed.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:40 PM
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30. The campaign itself is "experience"...It's work and it requires more commitment
than a phone call.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:44 PM
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34. whatever.
you're trying to create an argument where there isn't one. good luck with that.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:47 PM
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35. I simply responded to your comment...Call the kettle black much, Pot?
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:13 PM
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23. Palin campaigned for VP
But that doesn't mean she was ready for the job.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:42 PM
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31. Campaigning doesn't necessarily make you "ready" for the job
but it DOES require more commitment and work than a phone call.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:02 PM
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42. palin is the perfect example of "campaigning and
expericence" not meaning shit.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:23 PM
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26. Clinton earned the senate job in an election. the only thing "handed" to her...
...was the Democratic nomination in 2000. :hide:
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:43 PM
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32. um. I never said she was handed anything.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:06 PM
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38. Oh don't mind me
I'm the one who said she was handed something. I still find it interesting that the state Democratic Party would just clear the way for a non-traditional politician and a non resident like Clinton to just move in and take over one of their two Senate seats. I don't judge it as bad, but it certainly is curious, given the large number of politicians in that state who must have wanted to be a senator someday, too.
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:18 PM
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25. I agree
She has no street cred.
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:26 PM
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27. Stfu,Gerry. n/t
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:32 PM
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29. That's rich, coming from her
:eyes:

dg
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:04 PM
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36. That's her opinion. nt
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:06 PM
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39. Bite me, bitch. Junior senators, especially those appointed don't do much but vote.
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 05:30 PM by fla nocount
I've a good feeling which side of center Caroline will come down on. Her humanity qualifies her, if she's unsure Uncle Ted will be happy to steer her in the left direction. I'd love to have a Senator that was beholden to nothing but conscience and honor. All legislation for the last 3 decades has boiled down to screw the citizens or don't screw the citizens.

I still remember that little girl standing along side her Mom, little brother and uncles as her Daddy's body rolled past, she was six years old. All the Kennedy's have a hard-on for what's fundamentally wrong with this country. I say give the girl a chance to fight, to fight for herself and for US.

What I find sobering is that for all the speculation about what really happened on that event 40+ years ago...she probably knows.

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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:35 PM
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47. Hey, don't call women "bitch"
That's officially unDUish. The admins have outlawed that named being used against women. You don't have to like someone just to refrain from hurling misogynistic language at them.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 07:42 PM
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51. "Bitch" is asexual. It connotes an attitude and cognitive milieu where in one "bitches."
Net nannies are usually the last to be made aware of these things although partisan thugs and party monkeys might also be left out of the loop not through bias, but inattention on their part.
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realitythink Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:49 PM
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41. Who cares what that old bat thinks...
Does anyone still listen to that crazy old racist, and yes sexist, loon?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:03 PM
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43. Are you kidding me?
Gerry, really, no one is listening anymore. You blew it for all time during the primary.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:09 PM
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44. She destroyed her credibility in the campaign when she said
that the only reason people were voting for Obama was because he's black, or something to that effect. So her opinion on political matters is irrelevant.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:15 PM
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45. Gerry's just afraid that Caroline will go on and be the first woman President.
And she probably will. That's a pretty lousy reason to be against someone. (And it's a lousy reason to be for someone too.)

The Senate could do a lot worse than Caroline. Besides, it's only half a term, if she doesn't do well, that isn't very long to try someone else.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:24 PM
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46. The same Ferraro who said....
Palin 'Will Make A Difference' For Women during the General Election?

"The potential for a woman to be vice president will really make a difference for girls in this country," she says.
http://wcbstv.com/topstories/geraldine.ferraro.palin.2.806463.html

Ferraro defended Palin from charges that the Alaska governor -- who got her first passport last year -- doesn't have enough foreign policy experience.

"What she doesn't know she will learn very quickly, she seems smart enough," Ferraro said.
http://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/ferraro-defends-palin-mum-on-vote/


That Geraldine Ferraro? :shrug:



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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:44 PM
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49. Ferraro is a FOX NEWS DEMOCRAT.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:48 PM
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50. Ferraro is a pig. If she had shown her true colors in the 1980s I never would have voted for her.
The moose hunter was ready but Caroline Kennedy isn't?

Pound sand, you repuke in a donkey suit.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 07:56 PM
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53. At least she didn't say "Caroline Kennedy wouldn't be where she is if her name weren't Kennedy"
:eyes:
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 08:07 PM
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54. Give the coward her fears in restraint. Even she knows that to be a dumb, dumb move. n/t
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 08:14 PM
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55. I'm more concerned that the Senate is not ready for Caroline Kennedy!
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jetphixer Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 08:19 PM
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56. HUH?????
How come we are hearing from this rocket scientist Ferraro??? She don't like it cause Caroline will smoke her too sh!!!!!!!!
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 08:20 PM
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57. Geraldine is NOT ready to offer advice on Caroline ....
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 08:21 PM by Trajan
She couldn't shine Caroline's heels ....

And DU is not ready to suck up to the Post ....
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 08:33 PM
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58. "The patient, a former Congresswoman of a certain age,
was admitted to the psychiatric unit at St. Vincent's after family members became alarmed at her bitter, incoherent rambling and repeated impulse to spout negative assessments of other politicians, often in her own political party.

"It was not known from initial reports if the patient has had previous inpatient stays, although several family members suggested in the emergency room that it would not have been a bad idea.

"The patient was jabbering like a magpie in quite a pressured and voluminous fashion, requiring both multiple staff members to subdue her as well as a sturdy dose of IM medication. Four-point restraints were at the ready, according to nursing station personnel.

"The initial diagnoses upon admission likely would include a Major Mood Disorder and Schizoaffective Disorder, Paranoid Type, according to St. Vincent's attending physician. 'She's in pretty bad shape -- howling like a loon,' the physician reportedly told emergency room staff.

"The attending physician was attempting to mobilize staff to determine what if any medications the patient has been previously prescribed, and whether or not her apparent psychotic delusional constructs suggest an episodic break or her ordinary long-term baseline functioning.

"Psychological testing is pending. The patient's family is reportedly supportive."



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