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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:17 PM
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The Sound of a Door Closing
That's what we'll hear when Warren speaks on January 20th. Nothing could be a more fitting ending to the most shameful national episode in living memory. How appropriate that Bush's exit will be marked by comments from a voice of self-aggrandizing bigotry, deliberate ignorance, exclusion and self-anointed religious "authority."

In strokes of exquisite contrast the ceremony will begin with the long overdue departure of an evil regime; but it will conclude with a benediction delivered by Rev. Lowery, a soul long dedicated to benefiting the lives of others. The hand of grace thus extended over the nation as Obama's door opens will be worthy of the "amen" that welcomes the restorative energy of hope.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:29 PM
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1. Oh, so beautifully put!
Just exquisite!!!

:patriot:
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:39 PM
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2. While I appreciate your attempt to cover this pig with lipstick
The invocation at the inauguration is not a symbol of the end of Bush, it's how Obama chose to begin his own message of "hope."
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anndash Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:41 PM
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3. I just hope he doesn't
Edited on Sat Dec-20-08 02:41 PM by anndash
say anything to spoil Obama's day yet more. It's bad enough having a bigot like Warren having the honor on such a day to be center stage with Obama, but having him say something that would hurt the dedicated people who voted for Obama with hope in their hearts would be disgraceful. I don't think that Obama has really thought this out. I cannot see why he did this.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:41 PM
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4. So glad for Lowery's inclusion, anyway.
And perhaps, since it's going to happen regardless, it's better to see things the way you've framed it: let Warren be the footnote to the Bush adminstration. Let Lowery send us in a new direction.
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anndash Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:43 PM
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6. That would make sense if
Warren were speaking at Bush's "good-bye" ceremony - but he's speaking at Obama's "Hello" ceremony and it's a blight on such a wonderful day. That's one part of the inauguration that I will NOT tape for historical purposes.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:51 PM
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11. Yeah, I know
Just trying to find some way to make the best of a crappy situation, you know?
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makinguphumans Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:05 PM
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15. INDEED.
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makinguphumans Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:43 PM
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5. Rev Lowery forgets that gays were exterminated during the Holocaust:




Reverend Joseph Lowery, of Atlanta, believes blacks should sympathize with the gay community’s fight for rights, but points out that this country’s history won’t allow too close a comparison. “Homosexuals as a people have never been enslaved because of their sexual orientation…and declared less than a human.” Reverend Eugene Rivers of Boston, agrees, saying the gay community’s use of the civil rights movement and its history is, “racist at worst, cynical at best.”


But the Rev. Lowery forgets the history of the Holocaust:

United States Memorial Holocaust Museum:

“The Nazi campaign against homosexuality targeted the more than one million German men who, the state asserted, carried a "degeneracy" that threatened the "disciplined masculinity" of Germany. Denounced as "antisocial parasites" and as "enemies of the state," more than 100,000 men were arrested under a broadly interpreted law against homosexuality. Approximately 50,000 men served prison terms as convicted homosexuals, while an unknown number were institutionalized in mental hospitals. Others—perhaps hundreds—were castrated under court order or coercion. Analyses of fragmentary records suggest that between 5,000 and 15,000 homosexual men were imprisoned in concentration camps, where many died from starvation, disease, exhaustion, beatings, and murder......


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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:47 PM
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7. How will anyone know that? Who will tell them? Not Obama, for to him bush just has some
different opinions.

bush harbors no dangerous ideas, no self serving impulses, no ill will.

bush just has some different ideas about stuff.


i understand it's difficult for people to actually think for themselves and to put either bush or Obama into real perspective.

Those who love Obama don't see how self serving it is fore him to minimize and and to discourage real understanding of what the bush years have done to people. Because if people actually looked at what happened, I can't for the life of me understand how they can actually parrot Obama campaign propaganda as some greater truth.

Obama is just a guy. Perhaps you believe he is some kinda new age guru with a magic pipeline to "restorative energy and hope," but those critical thinkers among us, especially those who worked to elect Obama, can't swallow that cosmic debris.

He and Warren seem to have their own respective flocks of dumb-asses. And those people will rationalize anything to keep from actually examining what's going on.

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:49 PM
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8. I wonder if RW will recognize the sin of Blasphemy. nt
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:50 PM
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9. Yes, the final death of secularism in American government
There are now two parties: the religious party and the really religious party.
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crappyjazz Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:50 PM
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10. Wrap shit up in a pretty bow, it will still stink
You say hello, I say good bye
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makinguphumans Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:58 PM
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13. YES, IT WILL STILL STINK--AND IT WILL STINK ON JAN 20
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:55 PM
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12. I think you got
it.
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:01 PM
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14. Yes a door will be closed - the door of equality for all.
The Warren invocation will slam the door shut on millions of people who have never experienced true freedom in this country. It will door shut another four years of 'disagreements' on whether GLBTers are fully human or just human enough to court during election years. It will be just another door shut on the lives of so many who have never harmed another soul.

Yes, doors will be shut, but there is no way to mask who will be left out in the cold when that door is bolted. You can make yourself feel better with rationalizations but like the good nazis who said the Jews and gays were being taken away 'for their own good', we will still be suffering while you are included in the rewards of this election.
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makinguphumans Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:07 PM
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16. so many forget it was just not the Jews that Hilter got rid of.
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:12 PM
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17. We were more disposable then and still are today.
Do you notice that we've heard nothing from our esteemed president elect other than "I've always been a fierce advocate.." blah, blah, blah... There's been nothing said about taking up our issues or giving us cabinet level representation in his administration. There wasn't even a half-hearted "I'm sorry if anyone was offended..." comment. It was just pure defense of Warren and a slap in the face for us pushy GLBTers.

Like I said, a door has definitely been shut...
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