So Bristol Palin is about to become an unwed mother

[malaise]

any moment now.
I hope her Governor mother is itemizing all those baby gifts for tax purposes but I'm not holding my breath. Poor baby - one grandmother is a grifter and the other busted for drugs.
Has baby daddy refused to marry her? What gives?

Don't yuh love this model family. Such Rethug family values.


http://www.examiner.com/x-608-Early-Childhood-Parenting-Examiner~y2008m12d19-Bristol-Palin-expecting-her-baby-any-time-now
<snip>
Bristol Palin, daughter of former Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin, is expecting her baby any time now. Bristol's official due date is tomorrow.

Bristol's apparently found out that she's having a little boy. Grandparents.com reports she's been getting baby presents from all over the world.

Stay turned for the name of her baby. I can't wait to find out what she call him.

Bristol's baby's father is Levi Johnston. (Fox News reports his mother Sherry Johnston was arrested yesterday on drug charges.

[underpants]

1. ..

[malaise]

3. Don't tell me it's another

virgin birth??? :D

[asjr]

8. It is immaculate conception.

[malaise]

16. When my best friend was pregnant my very Catholic mom and I had a

great discussion on that topic. I asked her what she would say if I came home pregnant and told her it was an immaculate conception. She burst out laughing and said she'd ask me for the name of that young man. I laughed too and told her I'd report her to her bishop since she wasn't as Catholic as she claimed to be. My best friend and I were 21 then. I told her I had too many dreams to fulfill before having a child so I was on the pill. She was shocked at first but my mom always put her kids before any religion and she agreed with me.

sp.

[peace13]

25. Too funny! n/t

[valerief]

39. Or immethculate conception. nt

[Berry Cool]

46. That's more like it.

Besides, the concepts of "immaculate conception" and "virgin birth" are not the same.

[RB TexLa]

65. I always wonder why people get those two confused.

[valerief]

73. Catholicism is weird.

The Immaculate Conception is, according to Roman Catholic Dogma, the conception of the Virgin Mary without any stain ("macula" in Latin) of original sin. It is sometimes also called the Immaculata, particularly in artistic contexts. The dogma thus says that, from the first moment of her existence, she was preserved by God from the lack of sanctifying grace that afflicts mankind, and that she was instead filled with divine grace. It is further believed that she lived a life completely free from sin.<1> Her immaculate conception in the womb of her mother, by sexual intercourse, should not be confused with the doctrine of the virginal conception of her son Jesus.

I was raised Catholic and it still makes me scratch my head.

[malaise]

54. DUzy

:rofl:

[malaise]

57. Did you hear KO's guest's names for the baby

Methew or Crystal. :rofl:

[Ilsa]

49. "House" had a funny side-story along these lines the other night.

A young woman was pregnant, but she and her fiance' had not ever had sex. House "saved" their relationship by running a DNA test on the fetus and explaining to the bewildered couple that this was a pregnancy by parthenogenesis. The happy couple bought it and they were deliriously happy.

[malaise]

55. LOL n/t

[Veritas_et_Aequitas]

10. Not unless she's a kimodo dragon...

[marshall]

30. Has she signed up for WIC yet?

As far as I know she doesn't have a job.

[Vickers]

2. "she's been getting baby presents from all over the world"

The Russians are actually able to lob them right into their backyard.

[malaise]

4. Duzy

She'd better pay taxes on those Russian packages :rofl:

[Joe the Liberal]

6. Lol.......

:rofl:

[johnnie]

21. .

:spray:


One of the best in a long while here..LOL

[blaze]

48. LOL!! Duzy for sure! Thanks for the laugh! n/t

[Cleita]

5. Do people still use that term?

Unwed mother? I thought we gave up that terminology along with declaring the infant illegitimate back in the dark ages.

[malaise]

7. We did but Rethugs use it all the time for all pregnant women

other than their own.

[Juneboarder]

9. I think we just call them single moms now... :)

[RoadRage]

13. If you're Jamie Lynn Spears, Yes. If you're Bristol Palin, the term is "Single Mom"..

It's exactly the same thing of course.. but depending on the political agenda certainly determines the term used. :eyes:

[malaise]

18. Ding ding

I'm just using Rethug concepts to judge family values Rethug morons.

[RaleighNCDUer]

15. Technically, an unwed mother is a mother who never married.

A single mom is a mother who kicked the bum out.

[gratuitous]

22. Okay, I won't call the little bastard "illegitimate"

Are we all politically correct and happy now? Who wants to sing a chorus of "Kumbaya"?

Kidding around, naturally. It's not the little bastard's fault that his mommy and daddy didn't save their dirty, sinful, wanton activities until after they were married when it would have been clean and holy and beautiful. So I won't call him illegitimate.

[Cleita]

26. I am especially sensitive to the term as it was put on my

baptismal certificate. My mother was married to my father but not in the Church and so the priest who baptized me decided to make a statement. So every parochial school I was enrolled in had to have my baptismal certificate stating that I was illegitimate and it was especially stinging back in the fifties when those things were big deals.

[malaise]

32. It was worse here

Kids with illegitimate on their birth certificates weren't even allowed to attend the best schools.
It really is unfair to kids.

[Habibi]

34. Man, that sucks, Cleita!

Hugs to you: :hug:

[malaise]

28. That's a wicked funny post

Michael Manley outlawed the terms illegitimate and bastard decades ago in these parts.

[RoadRage]

11. I hope there are pics of Sarah & Levi's mom together from the baby shower..

That way we have proof that Palin likes to "Party & Pal around with Drug Dealers". Such scummy company.. who'd a thought? :eyes:

[Veritas_et_Aequitas]

12. Eh. I still feel bad for her.

I just really hope her family and boyfriend will help her with the kid.

[Beaverhausen]

14. "found out that she's having a little boy" - well of course he's "little"

god, I hate bad writing. I guess we weren't sure if she was giving birth to a grown-up boy or not.

:mad:

[valerief]

20. I wonder why she doesn't say, "I'm the proud mom of a male fetus!" nt

[a la izquierda]

64. Ever see that SNL, where Will Ferrell

is born, full sized, complete with his famously hairy chest? It's such a messed up skit.

[valerief]

17. What if his mom was arrested to provide a reason for Bris-Bris to back out of

marrying him? "I can't marry the son of a drug user/dealer. It's against my Jesus."

I mean, every other Alaskan uses meth, right? Why her? Why now?

[Vickers]

23. "It's against my Jesus."

:rofl:

I'm soooo using that phrase from now on.

:thumbsup:

[malaise]

29. There will soon be the book of Palin

phrases :rofl:

[malaise]

24. Tweety just played the Tina Fey clip

with Palin and Hillary when Palin said she was the small town mayor of Wasilla, the meth capital. :rofl:

[Duer 157099]

68. "Why her? Why now?" you ask?

My guess is that the investigation was put on hold until AFTER the election (and long enough after to not raise too many eyebrows)

[MADem]

19. Why should her MOTHER itemize the gifts to the daughter's child?

Does every famous grandmother do this? The gifts aren't to grandma, they are to the CHILD.

I think Bristol Palin is a PRIVATE CITIZEN. And as such, the kid should be left alone and not subjected to scorn from those whose party platform touts real compassion but can't seem to offer any at all, on an individual level, to a young girl in a tough spot.

Children can't choose their parents. That kid didn't ask to be thrust into the national spotlight, or to be ridiculed by anonymous fingerwaggers on the internet.

I can't imagine how it can possibly feel good or satisfying, in any way, to get vicious or snarky about a teenager who made a mistake, in order to make a pathetic point about her mother, who LOST an election and has retreated back to her home state.

I guess that whole "being gracious in victory" thing is elusive, too, along with that little ditty about letting he, or she, who is without sin, and all that.

:eyes:

Peace on earth, goodwill to all humankind? Seems in short supply hereabouts.

[malaise]

27. Isn't the daughter a minor?

Who's responsible for the taxes?

When Sarah Palin chose to parade her pregnant teenage daughter and the baby daddy on a party convention stage, after she and her party condemn other people's values and situations, she made this a public matter.
I am not even pretending to being gracious in victory. Fuck Sarah Palin.

[MADem]

33. Well, back in the dark ages, when I was a minor, I was still responsible for

filing taxes on the income that I earned from summer and after school employment.

Never, ever, did Mommy or Daddy do it for me.

You've got a beef with Sarah Palin, fine. State your disagreements with her views. But expressing your dislike of an adult politician by MAKING FUN OF HER CHILD is absolutely IDIOTIC, offensive, and completely UNPROGRESSIVE, to boot.

Not cool.

The opposite of cool, in fact.

Amy Carter. Chelsea Clinton. The Bush Twins. All raked over the coals for their parents' politics. None of them asked for the scrutiny, either.

I suppose you'll be philosophical when Barack Obama's children are verbally brutalized and excoriated, too, won't you? When Rush Limbaugh says something shitty or nasty or vicious or mean, you'll just chalk it up to the equivalent of what you are doing, right now?

Or is that a tougher nut to crack?

If it's OK for one kid....it's OK for all. Apparently, in your meanspirited world, kids are "fair game."

Disgraceful.

[malaise]

35. My position is simple

Any Carter and Chelsea Clinton were not paraded on stage pregnant and their parents weren't condemning other people and their pregnant children. Palin made her daughter fair game and I don't care if you call me mean-spirited.

[MADem]

44. Your "position" is reprehensible. Amy Carter WAS "paraded on stage."

Or have you forgotten?

Jimmy made quite a point of mentioning how he "discussed world affairs" and in particular, the arms race, with his daughter. They ostentatiously paraded her, for a time, at state dinners (she got in trouble for reading at the table) and forced her to attend those horrible DC public schools, where the poor kid had to stay inside at recess for fear someone would shoot her. He PUSHED her into the limelight. He "paraded" her. And she had no fucking choice in the matter.

Again--what does the action of the PARENT have to do with the child?

You get your cheap jollies making fun of a pregnant teen, and bask in some sort of sick, false moral superiority, because you're such an Internet Toughie that you can bully a little girl over the internet. You don't come off like a progressive, you come off like a mean punk.

You're behaving like what the kids call a TOOL. And of course you don't care what I call you--you have no sense of what's appropriate, and what isn't. You are an unkind person.

When someone makes YOUR kids "fair game" because of your idiotic actions, I hope you remember this little exchange. You have a nice, if pathetic, day.

[malaise]

53. She was not a pregnant teenager and her parents

were not condemning other people's children in the same situation. Fuck the entire Palin family and their fraudulent family values. I feel sorry for the poor baby - one lunatic grifter grandmother and the other charged for producing meth - love those Rethug values.

[MADem]

60. Oh, I see--it's "OK" to get on your moral high horse and brutalize a minor if she's

pregnant, is that it?

INCREDIBLE. I can't believe I'm reading this kind of hateful SHIT on DU. It's NEVER "OK" to pick on KIDS. That's what CRETINS do.

You are a piece of work. Your thinking is diametrically opposed to liberal/progressive values. There's no difference between you and Rush Limbaugh--except that you both do your filthy work for different teams.

You got one thing right in your sick little rant, though. Your torch and pitchfork attitude IS closer to those "Rethug values" you say you "love" than anything in the DNC platform.

Disgusting. A decent person would be ashamed to spout that kind of crap, but plainly, you think your offensive attitude is hunky dory.

[malaise]

70. Whatever

I love exposing hypocrites. Fuck the Palins.

[MADem]

72. Spoken like Rush Limbaugh, chortling about Chelsea Clinton....

It's never right to screw with kids. It takes a very insecure person to get joy from that.

[dems_rightnow]

40. Nobody is responsible for the taxes.

Gifts are always received tax free. Always.

The giver may be subject to Gift Taxes, if they give more than $12,000 to one person in a year.

This likely helps you out, as you've no doubt been so concerned about these taxes that you've been reporting your Christmas gifts as income all these years.

[MADem]

45. ...

:applause: :applause:

:thumbsup:

[Obamanaut]

43. Also too there, it might be possible that the wedding was held

off so that the pregnancy and delivery could be covered by Sarah's insurance, since Bristle is still a minor. Maybe.

[Ilsa]

51. Isn't she 17 or 18? Is she emancipated? nt

[MADem]

61. I think she's seventeen. She's a KID. A minor.

She isn't holding public office, and she wasn't able to CHOOSE her parents.

I can't believe the hateful shit I'm reading in this thread.

I wouldn't like it if anyone was talking viciously about Obama's minor daughters, either. I'd "take exception" to INVOLVING KIDS in the political lives of parents. It will be kind of hard to get outraged, though, if Rush takes a potshot at them, when apparently "Open Season" on children of politicians isn't frowned upon at an ostensibly progressive forum.

You just don't screw with KIDS. It doesn't matter how "awful" you think their parents are. It's fucking wrong. It's what sick, weak people do.

I am sickened that I am seeing this kind of SHIT...and it IS SHIT...on DU.

It's disgraceful. It reminds me of a very ugly forum full of intolerant bullies. This is not a "finest hour" moment in the history of this website.

[cap]

74. except that her mother is really hateful to kids in the same situation

as her child by denying them proper sex education, access to contraception, and the right to have an abortion if they choose. Never mind support for single mothers in terms of continuing their education, or job training.

We wont even go into rape kits, or proper enforcement of domestic violence laws.

Who knows what is going to happen with the baby's health insurance? How many teen age dropouts land jobs with health insurance without a little pull.

Palin holds up her daughter as an example of how to deal with teen pregnancy but doesn't explain how much is wired in her daughter's favor as a result of having a mother as a governor.

[MADem]

75. So, if your father was an axe murderer, should we have been hateful to YOU as a minor?

If your mother was a streetwalker who gave incurable STDs to half the neighborhood, should we have excoriated YOU and your young siblings when you were a teen? If your grandfather was a child molester who used to boast about what a wonderful student you were in school, should we have tarred and feathered you as a high school student because the pervert had the balls to PRAISE you and hold you up as an example? If your grandmother ran a soup kitchen and refused to feed the people she didn't like, should we have blamed you for grammy's actions?

What you are saying makes no goddamned sense. You are visiting the sins of the mother upon the CHILD. You are saying that Bristol Palin, MINOR and private citizen, somehow "deserves" scorn because her mother mentions and USES her.

That's SICK. It's not what progressives do--it's LIMBAUGH-like.

What's sad is that you're not in the least ashamed. One more time--the kid didn't ask for this attention. She should be LEFT ALONE. If you have a problem with her elected mother, fine, but the kid didn't run for any office and isn't accountable to ANY voters anywhere. Leave her be.

[SoCalDem]

31. Baby name: Wrangler Levi Toughskin

:rofl:

[TahitiNut]

36. I think their plans changed. He'll be "Meth Palin Johnston" now.

:rofl:

[malaise]

58. Methew according to KO's guest

or Crystal. :rofl:

[TahitiNut]

66. (grin) "Methew Marklukand Johnston"

:rofl:

[valerief]

37. Made me spit my coffee!

:rofl:

[chatnoir]

56. !!

:spray:

[dynasaw]

38. Isn't it curious

given the family values christian stuff that Levi Johnston isn't already married to her?

[malaise]

41. Bingo

One more set of hypocrites exposed.
Most sensible parents wouldn't have been pushing the wedding in the first place, but they don't tell other people how to live their lives.

[SoCalDem]

42. Yep.. I'm sure there are plenty of ministers who would jump at the chance

to marry those young'uns.. They could have a big ole party in the spring when it warms up..

but the simple "I-do" stuff could be handled as part of any Sunday service..

[Trailrider1951]

47. Oh come on, "unwed mother"? Bastard?

God, how Fifties!! Yeah, I was an "unwed mother". And "bastard"? My mistake was that I married the Bastard. And divorced him! My son turned out to be the most beautiful baby I had ever seen, and a more loving son was never born!

[WinkyDink]

50. Levi doesn't need to make nice for the PR value now. Marriage, schmarriage!

[Ilsa]

52. Why aren't they getting married? Are Bristol and baby going to the public trough

for funding instead of getting married and taking responsibility? If so, this is against everything the GOPers stand for, especially since Grandma Sarah makes plenty of money now.

[earth mom]

59. Don't you just love those rethuglican fundie family values?

:sarcasm:

[DemBones DemBones]

62. Bristol and Levi have said they will marry in June.

I think it's their business. Why are DUers so interested in a personal matter? The Palins never attempted to hide Bristol's pregnancy with a hurry-up wedding, as a lot of people in public life would do.

[rainbow4321]

71. They hid the pregnancy til outted by bloggers

Never announced it until the Monday after Palin and her family were paraded on stage with Mclame.

Bristol used Trig and a blanket as a prop to hide her stomach as she walked around stage. One of the first pics of her Trig/blanket free belly was taken by none other than someone with the mclame camp and it was posted on the mclame daughter's blogsite,...it was a backstage photo showing Bristol's profile as she handed the kid off to someone. Ooops, that got people talking, that little black dress was sticking out kinda far. Then the ring that was on her ring finger in those photos.

Only after a full weekend of of internet chatter did the Palin family admit the "pregnancy"..they even had Bristol hide behind the family when they took that People magazine cover pic so no one could see her stomach---but that was before they finally admitted she was pregnant.

IMO, I still question if Trig is really Palin's. I am in the "he is really Bristol's" camp.

But now with this MIL story breaking, I think back to Mercede Johnston's myspace where she called Trig "her little brother"
Is the kid Sherry Johnston's??

[Cleita]

63. Looks like grandma won't be needing the double-wide in jail, so the

new family can just move in. Grandma Sara though better get an outfit in there first to clean out the meth lab.

[Duer 157099]

67. I'll believe it when I see it. And even then I won't believe it.

I firmly believe she is Trig's mother and that her current "pregnancy" is a ruse of some sort to pave the way for her to take custody of Trig.

[Pastiche423]

69. Has anyone seen a photo of Bristol in the past month?