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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 03:48 AM
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No One Knew of this "Shoe Insult Culture?"..Ya kidding me? We been there for 6 years and NO ONE KNEW
I was thinking...WAM....I didn't know about this shoe shit thing but then...I don Come from there....I don't live there...I not supposed to know shit like that...I have the excuse card...

The Bushie Team Dudes...what about them? Ya would think after 8 years of practice...they would get it right....like, they are paid to know this crap....and better yet...they(the Bush Team) know Bush is a very unpopular dude and would worry about this sort of thing...

Ya would think....

Or......hmmmmm.....
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 03:51 AM
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1. I remember it over the statue
and they were running along beside it, hitting it with their shoes. The ultimate insult. Of course these journalists have to remember, and the Bushie Team Dudes. They just don't want the obvious full circle youtube - which is what somebody ought to do.
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recoveringrepublican Donating Member (779 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 08:43 AM
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16. That was the first thing I was thinking also.
I remember watching that happen. I'm not sure what cable news I was watching but I remember the anchors talking about how insulting the shoe thing was.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 09:27 AM
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19. The talking heads were all over themselves explaining how much of an insult
it was to Saddam Hussein ... but hey, it's George W. Bush, so it's some goofball being weird???
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 02:21 PM
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33. Longer than that. The tile portrait of Poppy Bush at the Al Rashid hotel - loads of publicity.
Edited on Mon Dec-15-08 02:25 PM by TahitiNut
It was reported on repeatedly for nearly two decades that that tile portrait was an insult ... with everyone walking on it. It was one of the FIRST TASKS of the occupation forces to REMOVE it. (They replaced it with a mosaic portrait of Saddam Hussein, fer crissakes!)

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 03:53 AM
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2. see, their is know risks, then there are unknown risks
...
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 03:54 AM
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3.  I Knew
Some people just haven't been paying attention. Shoes, eggs, tomatoes all have the same meaning.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 03:54 AM
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4. Delete - Dupe
Edited on Mon Dec-15-08 03:55 AM by lligrd
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 03:55 AM
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5. what are you talking about, "no one knew" ?
I thought most people knew
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:11 AM
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6. Like I said....I didn't know...but I have excuse....All the Presidents Men have no excuse
They are paid to know this shit...but then....it would mean not going there in the first place....and no one knew how to tell him not to..

such is life and such are risks....

Life can be so good when all else looks so bleak...

The Respite God smiled on us today....
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 07:24 AM
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7. Actually
I knew, but then I live on the DU.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 07:29 AM
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8. Of course they knew or
they would not have replaced Bush Snr.'s face with Saddam's at the hotel. They're trying their best to spin this but don't be fooled.
It will be in all the legacy books. On his last trip, he was pelted with the ultimate Iraqi insult - shoes. I could not have dreamed up such an appropriate departure gift.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 08:00 AM
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10. Its actually stunning in its timing and appropriateness
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 07:43 AM
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9. The 5 Supreme Court Just-Asses Shoo-inn just became a...
Shoe-Out.(ain't that a kkkickkk in the head?)

Seems like Shrub is about as highly thought of and respected by the folks in Iraq as he is here in the USSRofA. I'll bet those were union made hard toed smart boots that that irate Iraqi was chucking at the decider/Infidel In Chief.

The BushCo mafia prolly whacked and or tortured some of the guy's kin folk and instead of winning his heart and mind, like the mission in Iraq was, back in 03, kkkarl's War pResident's latest ass kissing/legacy enhancement visit/vacation, kindled some hard feelings in that fired up Iraqi reporter.

That Iraqi reporter should be the new guy on Meet The Press, I think...
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 08:09 AM
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11. The reporter should be given Medals and cash...plus a house and car
Shrub really noes the hate out there....

and the reporter...ya know he was practicing for weeks....them baseball scouts oughta give him some trials...he was dead on in his aim...them shoes were on target ...

like in SMART SHOES....its not his fault Bush knows how to duck so fast...he had a lotta practice doing that over the past 36 years
DUCKING RESPONSIBILITY AND DUTY.

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 08:17 AM
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13. Shrub needs an up-armored smirk if he plans to do much traveling
in that part of the world in the years to come.

I'll bet the shrub had a Dave Vitter Dumpling in his super-man underoos when he got back on de plane.

I wonder how his little lady friend really did get that black eye???
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 09:07 AM
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17. In the scuffle she got groped...the eye got in the way...the poor thing...
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:51 PM
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29. Shoe Bee Doo Bee Doo---Shoe Doo Bee Dooooo Beeee Doo
I think Frank Sinatra predicted just such an event as Bush went through in Iraq.

Here's a tune W might wanna' sing along with... :bounce:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO5Y1OuQIxo&feature=related
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:00 PM
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30. Straight through them goal posts..drop kick me too....LOL
Shoe on a Stick will be Bushies new sign of protest insult...LOL
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:33 PM
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31. I'll bet the dude that threw the shoes at the national douchebag
will do more time than the Blackwater goons that machine gunned the Iraqis.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 02:37 PM
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34. My editing period has expired so I'll just add this thought.
The shoe thrower had probably heard of fighting fire with fire and he figured the best way to fight a loafer, was with his loafers.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:48 PM
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36. LOL...Loafers indeed....word is them scouts from the National League wants him for some trials
His aim/speed was Impressive
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 06:21 AM
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39. He play toe jam football he shoot coke-a-cola
Edited on Tue Dec-16-08 06:33 AM by Hubert Flottz
He Chucked his Chuckas like the shoe slingers of old, way back in the wild east daze of king davey vs the giant.

Lucky for bush they don't still wear then pointy toed shoes like alley-babby sported around.

Some Loafers for the "Mother Of All Loafers"

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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 08:11 AM
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12. Well, *I've* known about it for many years.
But of course, I read books and magazines and stuff.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 08:19 AM
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14. I was reffering to Bushies Team...THEY supposed to know this stuff
and not let him go there in the first place....

What happened was something his team failed to prevent....Damn....
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 08:40 AM
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15. Yes, I got that.
I'm just so sick of my having known things that they should have known. I knew there were no WMD in Iraq, why didn't they? I knew that endless financial deregulation would lead to disaster, why didn't they? And on and on and on. Including the bit about the shoes, as well as Iraqi/Islamic culture and history in general.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 09:10 AM
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18. After all these years...ya would think......? These Bushie dudes are cronies??
He is such a dufus....an embarrassment.....damn

a :toast: to you
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 09:31 AM
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20. They have to PRETEND not to know it... for the benefit
of their base, who neither know nor care..

(actually, that goes for the both the knuckledraggers and the 24 karat bases)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:08 PM
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26. Induced Ignorance is BLISS??? I can buy that....in fact, its kinda obvious if we look
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 09:47 AM
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21. I too remember from the statue PR thing we did
and the Iraqi's were hitting Saddam with their shoes cause it was the ultimate insult or something like that.

Of course that was few years ago so you can't expect Team Bush to remember from way back then. Besides, I think they subscribe to the belief that history is for suckers.

Julie
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:06 PM
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25. I had forgotten about the statue thingy....History is for suckers...thats why
Bushie wants to clean his act,,,,Bwahahaha

Now, whereever he goes...."Shoe on a Stick" will follow his ass
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 10:01 AM
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22. But but he KEPT US SAFE from another attack!1 'cause it wasn't about SHOES!1 n/t
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 10:11 AM
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23. What, you think American officials are going to learn about other cultures?


Why should they? :sarcasm:




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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:04 PM
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24. The Bush Team SUPPOSED TO KNOW ALL about this kind of shit
and if it couldn't be revented....maybe the trip had too many risks?

But, you are correct...(puting sarcasm aside for a moment) Why should they? The ARROGANCE speaks volumes..

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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:23 PM
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27. I actually leaned about it here a few years ago
DU can be quite educational sometimes between all the petty bickering posts
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 12:44 PM
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28. Yes...I agree....But those Experts hired for this shit are SUPPOSED TO KNOW
Are they cronies too?
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 02:07 PM
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32. about 15 years ago, a company I worked for tried to make us all culturally aware
it had a short movie showing various faux-pas around the world, and the one that sticks in my mind is showing the soles of one's shoes to someone from an Arab culture.

Not only are there consultants who'll gladly charge big bucks to educate "diplomats" on overseas does and don't, any decent bookstore will have books about them in its travel section.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:51 PM
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37. Yup...for those who want to play the game...the rules of do's and don'ts ..are all there
Edited on Mon Dec-15-08 05:53 PM by opihimoimoi
So whats the deal...? Sheer Laziness? Incompetent, Ineptness, Ignorance?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 02:42 PM
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35. Just 'cause you bomb a culture out of existence doesn't mean ya have to
learn about 'em.

Jeez, why do you hate Amerika?


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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:58 PM
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38. Thats the Ole Way...the new way is to try and be friends....
:toast:
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