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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 11:54 AM
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Dear Mr. Gore
I am no longer hoping and I am no longer asking ... I am TELLING you:

RUN AL, RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :patriot:

That is all. ;-)

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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 11:57 AM
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1. he'll announce in the Fall (my prediction)
after a long, hot summer, a few more hurricanes, some more EXTREME weather, he'll announce. When that happens, I'll drop everything and work like hell to get him in the Whitehouse where he belonged all along.

We Love ya Al!!!:kick:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:04 PM
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2. Welcome.
I hope you're right! :hi:
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #2
56. Well, for all but the hurricanes...
speaking as a person who lives on a boat in the Florida Keys...
:scared:
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Welcome to DU!
:hi:

I've always loved the fall ... ;-)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:13 PM
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6. Hi Shoelace!
Welcome to DU! :hi:

I sure hope you're right... I'll volunteer immediately too!
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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:09 PM
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14. we'll have to fight off Big Oil big time if he runs
thanks and it is so wonderful to have found you all here!!!
Previously, I was on a couple of forums wherein Al Gore became Public enemy #1 because of his documentary, etc.
What a gift to come here to share the luv with y'all.

Just read that his advisers said to wait until fall. Can't remember where I read it - been a hectic morning with CSPAN hearings, etc.

Anyway, Big Oil is pumping huge money into their campaign against Al Gore as we write. I expect it will be a fight to the finish and I do mean "finish" literally.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:49 PM
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18. Glad you found us... that must have been awful!
Yeah... no surprise that they've already got their knives sharpened and drawn... $$$$ rules.

But I tell ya... I'm SO looking forward to that fight. :D
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. If the price of gas keeps going up ...
Al won't be fighting Big Oil alone - the entire country will be on his side! :D
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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 02:26 PM
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24. it was disheartening which is why I'm here!
because arguing with climate deniars, Gore hating neocons is a useless waste of time. I spent the better part of 2 years putting up all the graphs, the reports, the climate news to no avail.
Conservatives have minds of cement. Thanks be that they are now a minority!

YES! The fight is a good one and one I'll fight for our progeny. God how I love our Dem. Congress.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #1
32. I hope he doesn't wait too long
The primaries are getting earlier and earlier. Like Christmas shopping season.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 05:24 PM
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38. I agree! With 4-5 states having primaries in Feb, expect 1 in Jan!
He'll need time to get on the ballot if any states retaliate against CA having their primary in February - who knows, we may wind up with primaries in January or even December!
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #38
44. Right. I wonder where's the Democratic Leadership on this?
I like having the smaller states first. It gets all the candidates, contestants, rising stars and fakers on camera, on record, in various situations. This gives the big "true decision maker" states time to watch and appraise and do a better job choosing.

Put CA, NY early, and some "flash in the pan" could sneak in and cost us the general election.

Can't Democratic Leadership dictate to some degree when they will accept results from the states?

I like the older way. It seemed "calmer" (not that the Democratic Party primaries are all that calm lately)
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #1
81. ITA
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:10 PM
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4. Run, Al, run!
:patriot:
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:12 PM
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5. your country needs you sir. we have no real use for the rest
of the candidates, mostly.
say the words, sir. my family has been warned. i will make sure to make a little photo album of myself for them. but it will only take me a few minutes to pack.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:15 PM
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7. and hurry up!!!!
I cant wait forever. I got folks like Edwards to support if you dont run.
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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:16 PM
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8. Here's how to regain the world's respect and gratitude...
Handle the global climate change issue!
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:30 PM
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9. I've always believed that we need a candidate who can command worldwide respect ...
because this country will have many, many fences to mend after the 2008 election. Gore already has the world's respect and gratitude because of the climate change issue. As our president, he could certainly lead a worldwide coalition on climate change because they already trust him and that trust could help America regain some standing in the world community. :-)
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:31 PM
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10. Again no substance
Any comments on his testimony so far and the effect it will hopefully have on this planet if we all stop using this as a political football and really get serious about it? I didn't think so.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. So your name is RestoreGore, but you don't want him to run?
Edited on Wed Mar-21-07 01:02 PM by BattyDem
Why all the hostility? :shrug: This thread was not meant to discuss the issues ... this thread is a show of support and respect for the man. He was brilliant today! We need a leader like him.

So I voiced support without getting into a major discussion about his testimony or our country's climate change policy ... too bad if you don't like it! I didn't realize that the content of my posts had to meet with your standards and approval. You're free to discuss issues of "substance" in your own thread, so why get snippy in mine?


Again, no substance

What do you mean "again"? This is the only thread I've posted about Gore. I didn't participate in the discussion threads during the testimony because I wasn't near a computer. :shrug:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. I am personally tired of the "runalrun" mantra
That diverts the focus off of what he is seriously discussing now and using his sincerity on this issue to get attention for others. And it isn't a matter of what I want but what this planet now NEEDS, and he sees that this crisis transcends politics, and that is why he was there this morning and will continue this afternoon. But no, I do not want him to run in this system now because it is toxic and I DON'T TRUST IT. Why do you think he went there this morning? He is telling them that they have shirked their duty and he is telling them what THEY must do, which is frankly what we should be doing instead of telling him what to do.

He is also far and away beyond mere politics in his scope and vision on this, and we need him out here as ONE OF US. I want him to stay out here as ONE OF US as he is today from that side of the table where he can speak truth to power, because he has many more resources at his disposal to see his proposals take shape at all levels and much more freedom to bring forth ideas as those he did this morning. He is talking about a crisis of immense proportion that is staring us in the face that requires ALL OF US coming together NOW to solve it.

And that has nothing to do with my name that is kept for sentimental reasons when I actually believed in this system before my faith in it was shattered. MY attention is now on what he is doing now and how I can best become a climate mesenger to HELP HIM and tell THEM what to do instead of giving him orders. If you find my opinions hostile then, so be it. I happen to think what he is discussing is much more important than the same one liners. That is not what his appearance today is about.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:12 PM
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15. That's fine ... but I still don't understand why you felt it necessary
Edited on Wed Mar-21-07 01:24 PM by BattyDem
to come to this thread and rain on the parade the rest of us are having. Why not start your own thread and post what you just did? You made some valid points, though I don't necessarily agree that he should stay out of politics. He would be a wonderful president BECAUSE of his vision. Frankly, I think we need more people like him in politics.

I agree that real issues need to be discussed ... but sometimes we all just need a "feel good" moment. He was amazing today and I wanted to express how I felt.

Peace :-)

edited: typo :blush:

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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:28 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. Excuse me, but do you own this forum?
I had an opinion and expressed it. Feel free to then respond in any of my threads you choose to. I promise I won't criticize you as "raining on my parade" for expressing yourself honestly. Have a good day.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 02:06 PM
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20. But you did criticize me
I made a statement about Gore running for president and you criticized the post for not having any substance. You then went on to ask if I had "comments on his testimony so far and the effect it will hopefully have on this planet if we all stop using this as a political football and really get serious about it?" Instead of waiting for a response, you responded for me with a snide comment: "I didn't think so."

I now remember why I had you on ignore for so long. You're incapable of disagreeing with someone without being condescending - which is exactly what you did in your first post. When someone responds in kind, you act like the innocent victim and claim the moral high ground.

By the way ... taking a simple "feel good" Gore thread and making it about you and your feelings is raining on the parade. I don't own this forum, but I do respect my fellow DUers enough not to hijack their "favorite candidate" threads and make it about me and my wishes.



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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. !
:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #20
34. You didn't answer the question
Edited on Wed Mar-21-07 05:24 PM by RestoreGore
Do you have any comments? And spare me the spanking. Nothing I posted in the response was about me. I stated I was tired of seeing the one liner run al run lines without substance which I can certainly state here especially since he isn't a candidate, and asked you a question. If you don't have any comments about what he stated today, then fine. Now you and the usuals here who don't miss a chance to gang up on anyone who expresses an honest opinion here can rip me to shreds. It seems to be what some of you enjoy doing most here anyway, but I won't be wasting my time responding to it.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:45 PM
Response to Reply #34
50. Ignore thread can be your friend if you are
tired of seeing the run Al run threads... Try that instead..... :shrug:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #50
52. I usually do when they don't have a misleading title like this one does n/t
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 03:54 PM
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30. You just can't help yourself...
I'm sure you think that the reason your threads drop faster than a concrete block off a 20 story building is because no one cares about the environment. It's not that - it's your condescending, patronizing belief that only YOU understand or care about Al Gore and climate change. And since so many people don't post on your threads, (even when they read them, agree with them, and < more rarely> Recommend them) you have to jump in somebody else's thread in order to fulfill your deep need to prove to everyone (or yourself?) that YOU are The One And Only Keeper Of Al Gore's Flame Of Truth.

Newsflash: You're not. It's almost amusing now to see where you'll jump in and berate someone who dares to have an opinion that differs from yours, because you've become more and more shrill.

A lot of us have tried to be nice to you about this, because we see that your attitude is not helpful to the issue of climate change; but you've managed to alienate almost everyone here, so how many others in the real world, or on other websites have you turned off, I have to wonder?
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #30
46. Perfecto!!
:headbang: :applause:
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #30
53. let's see, how can i put this diplomatically
some could think that the primary agenda is to discourage president gore from running for reelection.

and that they whole "no one can do anything about global warming except al, as a civilian"..."mantra" is a cover.

the attack posts against the "run al run" supporters are just to consistent, almost rabid in their intensity.

some people could certainly jump to that conclusion.

i'm just sayin'.

:shrug:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #53
55. and they would be thinking wrong...
and I do not attack anyone here, I stand up for my opinions against others who have attacked me for my opinions here. I don't think asking for a little substance is along the same lines as telling someone they "piss on your cornflakes." People would also only CARE about my opinions if they believed that my words carried any real weight. But since I was told off good here that my words are worthless as are my posts here in this loving community where all opinions are accepted, I can't for the life of me understand why so much attention is being given to ONE response in a thread that Mr. Gore will not even see. I didn't and wouldn't discourage him from doing anything he truly WANTED to do. I agree with his views on this and like everyone else here can state what I would like for him to do. I don't TELL him he has to do anything, and I do believe that tying his work on this to a political agenda deflects from the issue as this thread solidly proves. So then I could jump to the conclusion that the political end of it is all many care about, and that his work on this crisis for us to inspire US to action is only important as far as some can use it to their own ends.

'i'm just sayin.'
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:47 PM
Response to Reply #55
80. "I do not attack anyone here..."
No, you just piss all over everyone's 'Run, Al, run!' threads.

Consistently.







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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #80
92. I believe it's called freedom of speech.
And is allowed according to the rules of this forum. However, I don't think HARASSING members is one of those rules, which you and others consistently do to me. Now again, I will tell you the same thing I told your counterpart above: You don't like my opinions or support for this man above the political speculation crap spewed here consistently then ignore them, because I have no intention of being SHUT UP here.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #30
59. "The One And Only Keeper Of Al Gore's Flame Of Truth"

LOL!

With friends like that...

:rofl:


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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. No offense, but not every call for Al to run is either about your shattered faith in our system nor
about the selfishness of those who are making that call. I'm sorry that you were disappointed in what happened in 2000 (many people were), but I find it offensive that you seek to personalize all these Gore threads.

SOME of us still believe in our system of government, and that we need honest, ethical leaders like Al to help fix what is wrong with it - as well as our environment.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. THANK YOU!
Edited on Wed Mar-21-07 01:54 PM by helderheid
Every "run Al" Thread has RG pissing in the cornflakes.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #19
47. Yeah, what's up with that?
I get that he doesn't want Gore to run for Prez again but why does "Restore Gore" have to be so fookin' rude to Gore Supporters?

Is this Orwellian or what?
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #47
82. Because
RG is "The One And Only Keeper Of Al Gore's Flame Of Truth"

That's why.

DUH!

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #82
95. OOOoooooh! Thanks!
:rofl: :yourock:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #13
28. I can think of no better reason for Gore to run in this era of toxic politics
than that which you have stated: he is "beyond politics."

It is time to transform the game of politics, and no one will ever be in a better position than Gore to do so.

Your refusal to see how much more powerful Gore's message and work will become with him as President of the United States is
one of the more baffling, perverse and predictable features of logging on to DU.

It in fact goes beyond merely refusing to see, but encompasses an aggressive and consistent attempt to deny that reality, and to convince others that assuming the position of the most powerful office in the world will somehow reduce Gore to an ineffectual, sorrowful has-been.

You have an uphill climb here, attempting on a regular basis--as is your want-- to convince us that when one has power, all power disappears.


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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #28
35. Again, he didn't run in 2004
So I don't then believe he truly wants to, and I will not waste my time pushing and harrassing him to do something he does not want to do. There is nothing perverse about that. I supported him every year he ever ran for office in the past and voted for him. However, based on the past few years experiences, I also now agree with him that this process is toxic and real progress on this crisis can be made faster from going around politics and taking it to the grassroots level as he is now doing. Therefore, if I am then perverse regarding those thoughts then so is he by your logic as he has also stated he has fallen out of love with this process and has devoted much in the way of resources and dedication to taking this to the grassroots level. I support the tremendous progress he has made on this issue as a statesman of great influence and I want him to continue doing it. A shame supporting his endeavors is so perverse to you.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #35
69. If Gore feels he is being harassed, he should speak plainly on the matter.
It is not your place to imagine he is having difficulty with this, and then continue to "punish" others for expressing their heart-felt wishes and urgings to Mr. Gore.

You speak of logic, and then deduce that because Gore did not run in 2004 it means that he does not desire to run in 2004. That's a thread-bare guess.

You say "(it's) A shame supporting his endeavors is so perverse to you." That is an illogical assumption, and manipulative and dishonest to boot.

You speak of wasting time, so can we assume that you feel that putting a damper on a Gore run (a near-to daily endeavor for you ) is considered a valuable pursuit for you? Do you find this valuable? What benefit do you gain from such a pursuit?

I can understand if Gore would rather pursue the GW issue 24/7 and forgo a run, but he has not said outright that this is his intention. When and if he does, I will respect his wishes, not yours. You are not a spokesperson for Gore. Quite the contrary.

You have no place WHATSOEVER to speak in his stead, to tell us what he FEELS. It is rude. It is foolish. It is infuriating.

Why not write him and tell him to "shit or get off the pot", if you feel we are so disruptive of his pursuit regarding GW? Do you think it hasn't occurred to HIM that he can put an end to all this with ONE statement? Do you think he is that dense? Do you think we're knuckleheads and do not ourselves realize that? What do you take us for here at DU?

Again, what value is there for you in shouting down a Gore run? What specifically do you gain? Doing this is taking away valuable time from YOUR efforts, isn't it? Or is it?

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #69
72. My mistake,
"You speak of logic, and then deduce that because Gore did not run in 2004 it means that he does not desire to run in 2004."

It should be "...desire to run in 2008"
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #69
73. Spare me
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 09:24 PM by RestoreGore
HE has stated his feelings very well on this. Perhaps you should listen to them instead of living in denial. And I have every right to respond in any thread I choose to. If you don't like it I suggest you avail yourself of the mechanisms in a place here to avoid seeing them. And your attempts to stifle my free speech here by wagging your finger at me is foolish and rude. And I am not "shouting" down anything. I am agreeing with HIM. And I happen to think he is brilliant, while the majority in this thread think they have the right to order him around. Don't then turn this around on me. I'm one respecting his wishes and taking action on this crisis. Really, the way some of you attack others here for their opinions is like watching Republicans go after those who speak truth. Again, if you don't like my opinions don't read them.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:40 PM
Response to Reply #73
85. I will spare you NOTHING. Do you understand that?
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 12:01 AM by Kurovski
Rude? Stifling free speech? Yes, well guess what...free speech is met with more free speech, particularly when said free speech is spreading misinformation as fact.

He has NEVER said that he will NOT run.

He has not ruled it out. When he FUCKING DOES IT, THEN PEOPLE WILL STOP. Do you understand that?

Do not give me any bullshit about how he has "stated his feelings quite well". Please stop bullshitting us on this matter.

I know all about the "mechanisms" in place here at DU, and unfortunately the block feature is gone and you're free to continue your transparent attempts--merely attempts--to divide DU based on a "lame" premise. Fortunately DU can figure these things out.

The mind-fucking statement "...the way some of you attack others here for their opinions is like watching Republicans go after those who speak truth.", would be interesting to ponder if you actually had ANY discernible truth to offer.

As it stands, it casts everything you say in a most speculative light. And that includes your misleading name--did you really attack BattyDem for a "misleading" thread title? Hard to believe, but there it is.--"RestoreGore". You chose the name "RestoreGore" in May of 2006. Please tell us what event, past that late date, suddenly soured you on politics as regards Mr. Gore?

So instead of practicing psy-ops 101 when you are asked a question, would you perhaps this time...answer the question?

And now I have three for you: What benefit is there in continuing to attempt to put the damper on a Gore run for president?

And the third and speculative question is, should Mr. Gore indeed run for president, what will you then do here on DU as regards his run?

Edit: I'm very serious about answering the questions, particularly the question about what you find to be beneficial.

Upthread in one of your replies to me you state that you feel it is a waste of time to ask Gore to run, and yet you devote a great deal of time in stamping down a movement to get Gore to run.

So that is obviously NOT a time-waster for you. Why?







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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:00 AM
Response to Reply #85
91. I spend less time here than you obviously do
And again, you don't get to lecture me. You got that? Again, if you don't like my opinions and how they are expressed find a way to ignore them and practice what you preach, because this BADGERING is most certainly a waste of my time.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #91
93. So then you refuse to answer the questions.
That is duly noted.

I trust others will note it as well.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #93
94. I answered them here already
If you missed that thread, your problem. Also, this thread isn't about ME, and I owe you nothing. That's the only answer you are getting for being so damned rude to me here. Got it now?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #94
98. You refuse to directly answer the questions.
And the notation of that fact grows ever-more memorable.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #13
54. It's a sign of enthusiasm and support. Plus new support.
Edited on Wed Mar-21-07 08:40 PM by NastyDiaper
Gore recommendations are on record and largely received by congress.

Boxer Kicks ass.

Edwards rolled out his energy plan and it rocks.

This is the DU. Don't confuse enthusiasm with badgering. That's what I read anyway.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #11
25. Oh don't pay that no nevermind
He has an issue with Al Gore, though why the chosen and oh so misleading screen name will just have to be a mystery.

There are just a couple of posters here who cannot say enough nasty things to those of us who think Al Gore is capable of doing more than one thing at a time. Just ignore them like the rest of us do.

Julie
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #25
37. I am not a "he"
And you sure made sure to pay it some mind. Gotta love it. And of course Mr. Gore can do more than one thing at a time. He already is. Some of you however don't seem to think he is worth discussing unless he does what you want by TELLING him to, and I will then continue to comment on that whenever I choose whether you like it or not.
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #11
42. Absolutely, but then everytime a Run, Al, Run thread comes up, RG is here! Just like clockwork!
:eyes:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #42
49. No I'm not
And this thread is NOT ABOUT ME, nor do I owe you or anyone else an explanation of where I post or why. Gee, for someone whose threads drop like a stone (which was one of the ridiculous comments made above by someone who says this isn't about me but made it about me) some of you just can't help but pay attention to what I type. There are many threads here I don't respond to because unlike some I don't sit here all day. But you and a few others are always here ready to jump. Bottomline: You DON'T have to want him to run in this system in 2008 to be a supporter of the man and comment about him. I have talked to many people who hold him in very high esteem who feel the same way I do and believe he has found his true calling in life, and when I talk to them off of the Internet I never get the nastiness I get from the same few here who think they own ALL conversation about him here. And in the case of this OP I took issue with TELLING him what to do and responded to it. Some of you will simply just have to learn to accept it, because as long as there are threads written about this good man, if I am so inclined to repond in them I will.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #49
96. .
:rofl:
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #10
36. Gore himself is changing the topic to politics, with his new book
"The Assault on Reason" which is NOT about climate change, but is about politics and how politicians no longer use reason and fact to make decisions.

If he no longer cares about politics, why write an entire book about politics and its problems?

He is not a one-note man.

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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #36
40. His book is about DEMOCRACY
Which also relates to debate on the climate crisis which he has already made the connection about. I also never stated here nor anywhere else that he doesn't care about politics. Of course he does, just not the way it is being practiced in this country now. So could you stop misrepresenting what I type here? Thanks.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #40
48. I guess we'll see on May 22nd.
The book is about how politics has devolved and how the politicians and citizens don't use reason and facts -- about how we need to use critical thinking.

And I didn't say anything about what you're typing. I said that Gore himself changed the topic to politics by writing a book about politics due to be released in a about a month with three re-writes about the politics of the Bush Administration and the political scandals of that Administration.

So I'd say that it's about politics, and so does everyone else including the publishers and Gore's spokespeople.

From Wikipedia:
The Assault on Reason (ISBN 1594201226) is a book to be published on May 22, 2007 written by former Vice President Al Gore about a claimed trend in U.S. politics towards ignoring facts and analysis when making policy decisions. Some believe that this book may be a prelude to another run for president. He has done almost three rewrites in order to cover many of the Bush Administration's recent "scandals".

Description from Amazon:
A visionary analysis of how the politics of fear, secrecy, cronyism, and blind faith has combined with the degration of the public sphere to create an environment dangerously hostile to reason

We live in an age when the thirty-second television spot is the most powerful force shaping the electorate's thinking, and America is in the hands of an administration less interested than any previous administration in sharing the truth with the citizenry.

Gore's larger goal in this book is to explain how the public sphere itself has evolved into a place hospitable to reason's enemies, to make us more aware of the forces at work on our own minds, and to lead us to an understanding of what we can do, individually and collectively, to restore the rule of reason and safeguard our future. Drawing on a life's work in politics as well as on the work of experts across a broad range of disciplines, Al Gore has written a farsighted and powerful manifesto for clear thinking.

From the WaPo:
Gore's 2008 Plans May Become Clearer After Release of Book
the book is a meditation on how "the public arena has grown more hostile to reason," and how solving problems such as global warming is impeded by a political culture with a pervasive "unwillingness to let facts drive decisions."

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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 08:17 AM
Response to Reply #40
68. Um, how is a book about democracy *not* political?

:shrug:

From the Publisher

A visionary analysis of how the politics of fear, secrecy, cronyism, and blind faith has combined with the degration of the public sphere to create an environment dangerously hostile to reason

At the time George W. Bush ordered American forces to invade Iraq, 70 percent of Americans believed Saddam Hussein was linked to 9/11. Voters in Ohio, when asked by pollsters to list what stuck in their minds about the campaign, most frequently named two Bush television ads that played to fears of terrorism.

We live in an age when the thirty-second television spot is the most powerful force shaping the electorate's thinking, and America is in the hands of an administration less interested than any previous administration in sharing the truth with the citizenry. Related to this and of even greater concern is this administration's disinterest in the process by which the truth is ascertained, the tenets of fact-based reasoning-first among them an embrace of open inquiry in which unexpected and even inconvenient facts can lead to unexpected conclusions.

How did we get here? How much damage has been done to the functioning of our democracy and its role as steward of our security? Never has there been a worse time for us to lose the capacity to face the reality of our long-term challenges, from national security to the economy, from issues of health and social welfare to the environment. As The Assault on Reason shows us, we have precious little time to waste.

Gore's larger goal in this book is to explain how the public sphere itself has evolved into a place hospitable to reason's enemies, to make us more aware of the forces at work on our own minds,and to lead us to an understanding of what we can do, individually and collectively, to restore the rule of reason and safeguard our future. Drawing on a life's work in politics as well as on the work of experts across a broad range of disciplines, Al Gore has written a farsighted and powerful manifesto for clear thinking.

Link:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&EAN=9781594201226&itm=6

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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 05:27 PM
Response to Reply #10
39. Are you for real? It seems your sole mission is telling people NOT to support a Gore run.
Can you play any other tunes?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #39
41. I give my own opinions
Edited on Wed Mar-21-07 05:46 PM by RestoreGore
Are you adult enough to handle that? No one told YOU to do anything. I agree with Mr. Gore and I respect him and believe he should continue his work on this issue. THAT for me is now real. So no amount of lame attacks here is going to change that. Understand? I hope so, because this is the last response I am giving to backbiting comments.










http://www.tree-nation.com/community/product.php?item_icon=1&item_id=109377
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #41
45. Another attack from you. Regular as clockwork.
"Are you adult enough to handle that?"

At least I'm adult enough to get my point across without insulting people. :eyes:

"No one told YOU to do anything."

Sure you did. What do all of your posts amount to, other than "shut up and don't tell him to run"?

You assume you can read his mind or something, which is laughable. And you don't talk about *anything* else.

"So no amount of lame attacks here is going to change that."

You're right. You'll get ignored either way. It'll just happen faster the more you insult people.

"Understand? I hope so, because this is the last response I am giving to backbiting comments"

Really? Do you promise?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #45
71. Like punchin' a timeclock.
;-)
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:35 AM
Response to Reply #41
66. Wow, you certainly attract a lot of hostility
:)
I don't necessarily agree with you that Gore shouldn't run, but I see your point overall.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:29 PM
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74. Deleted message
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #66
75. Well, thanks for your civil response
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 09:47 PM by RestoreGore
Also, I never stated I wouldn't want him to run in a system different from what we have now if he truly wanted it, which I don't think he does. Even he has asked why he should go back to this now, and I don't blame him one bit. And actually, seeing the impact he is now having globally as an environmental advocate without a political agenda is all I need to see to believe that he has finally found peace within himself and gotten to the point in his life where he feels he can leave it behind to concentrate on that which he has always believed to be most important... and he is absolutely right.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #75
78. Interested to see what that first reply was!
But no problem. I'd rather have replied politely, since so few did, then go on the attack right away. I'm not sure if Gore will run or not...somehow I doubt that he will. I might be proven wrong, but I don't think so.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #78
79. It was mine. No point in repeating it, though.
Since someone was obviously unhappy with it and went whining to the mods.

I have read the DU posting rules. Is it against the rules to tell another poster you dislike them, and give some indication as to why? Because I've seen what I thought were some pretty nasty posts that were allowed to remain on the board.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #79
83. It wasn't directed at me, I hope
:)
I'm not sure how the standards for personal attacks in posts are applied by the mods. I don't think there is a consistent standard. I've seen some pretty mild posts deleted, while some pretty harsh posts are allowed to remain.
You never know.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #83
84. No, it wasn't directed at you.
I'm going to leave it alone for now, though, since other people on this thread have covered the same ground quite adequately.
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #10
43. Run, Al, Run. I will say it again and again and again.......
Oh, btw, I think this may be a 'support Gore for POTUS' thread.
:sarcasm:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:04 PM
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12. K&R!
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kimsterdemster Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 02:23 PM
Response to Original message
22. Just Do It...
We need you!!!!!!!!


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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 02:53 PM
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26. OBEY*HRC
please AL! don't make us beg!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 02:58 PM
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27. Run Al Run
:loveya:
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 03:09 PM
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29. Please, Run Al Run
Your country needs you desperately Mr. Vice-President.



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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 03:55 PM
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31. Please Al...you are The One! n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 04:03 PM
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33. Get going Al...
Please and thank you, Sir.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:46 PM
Response to Original message
51. Run, Al
We need you.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 08:46 PM
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57. Please run, Al.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 09:58 PM
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58. I find that disrespectful to Mr. Gore. n/t
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #58
76. So do I n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #76
97. We know
:eyes:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 12:13 AM
Response to Reply #97
111. Oh lord, do we ever.
Say, where exactly did the term "One trick pony" come from?
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 11:52 PM
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60. A true, American Patriot!
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 11:55 PM
Response to Original message
61. You know what? It's not just a good idea, it's his responsibility.
Among americans in general, Gore is the best suited to be president.

We each owe it to our society to use our gifts to highest and best use. Gore's cross to bear is that his highest and best use is to be the President.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #61
109. And now for a Bible quote...
To whom much is given, much is expected. - Luke 12:48
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:44 AM
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62. GORE 2008!
:woohoo:
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Pierogi_Pincher Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:51 AM
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63. Please
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 01:57 AM by Pierogi_Pincher
run, Al, RUN! A petitioner commented that being our (beloved--my word) President is your DESTINY! I am standing on those words. Y'all can preside over us and do global warming on the side.

Love YOU,

P_P :dem:

edit to correct 'my word'
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:56 AM
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64. Please run. I want to vote for you again.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 04:30 AM
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65. In Gore We Trust
"If (Al) was going to run in the future, of course I would support him. I think he'd be a fantastic president. He already got a majority of votes of people in this country once, and so that says something."
-- Tipper Gore on Good Morning America, June 13, 2006
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2069724&page=1


Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :patriot:

Read Al's blog: http://blog.algore.com

Get ready for Live Earth on 7/7/07: www.liveearth.org

Sign the petitions at www.algore.org and www.draftgore.com

:kick:
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namvet73 Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 07:20 AM
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67. I loved Boxer telling Inhofe to shut up and..
stop telling Gore to shut up.

Boxer to Inhofe: "You're not making the rules. You used to when you did this (holding up the gavel) you don't do this anymore. Elections have consequences!" <Applause!>

Anyone have a down-loadable video? Can't download from MSNBC.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #67
70. Try looking for it at C-Span.
:hi:
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:31 AM
Response to Reply #67
87. I saw that. Inhofe got smacked pretty good...and deservedly!
DH said that he addressed MyHeroGore as senator at one point. All I have to say is...pathetic!! What a petty little boy thing to do. Someone needs to send Inhofe a memo to have more respect for himself and not embarass himself like that. oy vey!
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 10:01 PM
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77. Your country needs you, Mr Gore
You simply must run for the presidency.

The process sucks, but you are needed too much to let this stop you.

Go Al, Go!! :patriot:
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:27 AM
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86. GORE IS MY HERO. I just saw AIT and am blown away. He gives me hope.
...something that is MUCH needed. I didn't think it was possible for me to feel any hope in light of...reality. But I see him and I think he JUST may be the one to give us a reason to be proud again. He is a true inspiration.
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puffthemagicdragon Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:31 AM
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88. Yes! PLEASE RUN! We need you! nt.
nt.
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La_Fourmi_Rouge Donating Member (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:41 AM
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89. AL, IF YOU DON'T RUN
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 03:41 AM by La_Fourmi_Rouge
I am going to hunt you down mercilessly and give you a NOOGIE right in the middle of your big hairy belly!
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 03:42 AM
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90. Old Europe would like that too. He was here in belgium last week
:kick:
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 05:01 PM
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99. Al, for the love of God, PLEASE DON'T RUN...
...Because i will definitely have to drop out of grad school to work on your campaign!!!

:evilgrin:

(Gore/Obama 2008!)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 05:03 PM
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100. LOL!
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:42 PM
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101. That's my dream ticket, too. EOM
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SallyMander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:16 PM
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103. I'm hoping for 8 years of those two
and then 8 years of Obama/somebody else! :-)
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:49 PM
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102. Yep, I was initially against it, but I will push for draft Gore now n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 07:19 AM
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110. Welcome aboard, deacon.
:thumbsup:
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:34 PM
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104. Kick for RestoreGore!!! RUN, AL, RUN!!!
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 08:38 PM by utopiansecretagent
;-)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:40 PM
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105. You're so bad you're GOOD!
:rofl: :yourock:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 03:30 AM
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106. Kick. (nt)
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 03:32 AM
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107. One more Vote for Al ;=D


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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 04:12 AM
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108. That's crazy-cool!
:thumbsup:
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