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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 06:33 PM
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"Health-Care Reform Could Kill the GOP" ...Sounds like "two for the price of one" to me!
Edited on Thu Dec-11-08 07:31 PM by DailyGrind51
Health-Care Reform Could Kill the GOP
Bill Kristol was right to panic.

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By THOMAS FRANK

Columnist's name

Can policy be both wise and aggressively partisan? Ask any Republican worth his salt and the answer will be an unequivocal yes. Ask a Democrat of the respectable Beltway variety and he will twist himself into a pretzel denying it.

For decades Republicans have made policy with a higher purpose in mind: to solidify the GOP base or to damage the institutions and movements aligned with the other side. One of their fondest slogans is "Defund the Left," and under that banner they have attacked labor unions and trial lawyers and tried to sever the links between the lobbying industry and the Democratic Party. Consider as well their long-cherished dreams of privatizing Social Security, which would make Wall Street, instead of Washington, the protector of our beloved seniors. Or their larger effort to demonstrate, by means of egregious misrule, that government is incapable of delivering the most basic services.

That these were all disastrous policies made no difference: The goal was to use state power to achieve lasting victory for the ideas of the right.

On the other side of the political fence, strategic moves of this kind are fairly rare. Instead, for most of my lifetime, prominent Democratic leaders have been chucking liberalism itself for the sake of immediate tactical gain.

Former President Bill Clinton, who is widely regarded as a political mastermind, may have sounded like a traditional liberal at the beginning of his term in office. But what ultimately defined his presidency was his amazing pliability on matters of principle. His most memorable innovation was "triangulating" between his own party and the right, his most famous speech declared and end to "the era of big government," his most consequential policy move was to cement the consensus on deregulation and free trade, and many of his boldest stands were taken against his own party.

The results were not pretty, either for the Democrats or for the nation.

Still, conservatives have always dreaded the day that Democrats discover (or rediscover) that there is a happy political synergy between delivering liberal economic reforms and building the liberal movement. The classic statement of this fear is a famous memo that Bill Kristol wrote in 1993, when he had just started out as a political strategist and the Clinton administration was preparing to propose some version of national health care.

"The plan should not be amended; it should be erased," Mr. Kristol advised the GOP. And not merely because Mr. Clinton's scheme was (in Mr. Kristol's view) bad policy, but because "it will revive the reputation of the party that spends and regulates, the Democrats, as the generous protector of middle-class interests."

Historian Rick Perlstein suggests that this memo is "the skeleton key to understanding modern American politics" because it opens up a fundamental conservative anxiety: "If the Democrats succeed in redistributing economic power, we're screwed."

In the Clinton years, of course, it was the Republicans who succeeded. And the Democrats' failure -- the failure to deliver national health care that is, not the act of proposing national health care -- was a crucial element, in Mr. Perlstein's view, in the Republican Revolution of 1994. Assessing the accomplishments of the "party of the people" after those first months of Clintonism, middle-class Americans were left with what? A big helping of Nafta. Mmm-mmm.

Fourteen years later, we find ourselves at the same point in the political debate, with a Democratic president-elect promising to deliver some variety of health-care reform. And, like a cuckoo emerging from a clock, Mr. Kristol's old refrain is promptly taken up by a new chorus. "Blocking Obama's Health Plan Is Key to the GOP's Survival," proclaims the headline of a November blog post by Michael F. Cannon, the libertarian Cato Institute's director of Health Policy Studies. His argument, stitched together from other blog posts, is pretty much the same as Mr. Kristol's in 1993. Any kind of national medical program would be so powerfully attractive to working-class voters that it would shift the tectonic plates of the nation's politics. Therefore, such a program must be stopped.

Liberal that I am, I support health-care reform on its merits alone. My liberal blood boils, for example, when I read that half of the personal bankruptcies in this country are brought on, in part, by medical expenses. And my liberal soul is soothed to find that an enormous majority of my fellow citizens agree, in general terms, with my views on this subject.

But it pleases me even more to think that the conservatives' nightmare of permanent defeat might come true simply if Democrats do the right thing. No, health-care reform isn't as strategically diabolical as, say, the K Street Project. It involves only the most straightforward politics: good government stepping in to heal an ancient, festering wound. But if by doing this Barack Obama also happens to nullify decades of conservative propaganda, so much the better for all of us.

Write to thomas@wsj.com

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122826686559774533.html#
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 06:41 PM
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1. Now get your Congress Critter and Senate Simian to make Obama sign on
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ACTION BASTARD Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 06:48 PM
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3. Bump for the truth. (R)epuke want to destroy poor people.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 06:48 PM
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2. sounds like poetic justice to me
after all, they killed it back in the 20th. And not for humanitarian reasons either. It was to establish a "permanent Republican majority." That sounds like totalitarianism to me.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 07:03 PM
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4. Gosh - something that would be good for everyone along with
something that would be good for everyone.

When do we start?

mark
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 07:05 PM
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5. Nobody cuts through the bullshit better
than Thomas Frank. Not even Krugman.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 07:12 PM
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6. A Detailed Timeline of the Healthcare Debate (PBS re: Clinton Initiative)
Spring 1991 - Minority Whip Newt Gingrich, in a private discussion about long-term Republican political strategy, predicts that the "next great offensive of the Left," as he puts it, will be "socializing health care." Gingrich declares the need for hardline Republicans to begin positioning themselves now to keep Democrats from winning in the future ...

December 2, 1993 - Leading conservative operative William Kristol privately circulates a strategy document to Republicans in Congress. Kristol writes that congressional Republicans should work to "kill" -- not amend -- the Clinton plan because it presents a real danger to the Republican future: Its passage will give the Democrats a lock on the crucial middle-class vote and revive the reputation of the party. Nearly a full year before Republicans will unite behind the "Contract With America," Kristol has provided the rationale and the steel for them to achieve their aims of winning control of Congress and becoming America's majority party. Killing health care will serve both ends. The timing of the memo dovetails with a growing private consensus among Republicans that all-out opposition to the Clinton plan is in their best political interest. Until the memo surfaces, most opponents prefer behind-the-scenes warfare largely shielded from public view. The boldness of Kristol's strategy signals a new turn in the battle. Not only is it politically acceptable to criticize the Clinton plan on policy grounds, it is also politically advantageous. By the end of 1993, blocking reform poses little risk as the public becomes increasingly fearful of what it has heard about the Clinton plan ...

Spring 1994 - Republicans other than Newt Gingrich begin to see a tantalizing prospect of winning control of Congress by opposing the Clinton health plan as a quintessential example of Big Government Democratic liberalism run wild. An article in the right-wing American Spectator Suggests Dole's presidential prospects hinge on his ability to block any govemment-run health care system. Dole's top aide, Sheila Burke, quickly finds herself the target of abuse from ultraconservatives because of Dole's seeming moderate stance ...

July 23, 1994 - Following several days of anti-Hillary rhetoric on local talk shows, Hillary Clinton -- at a bus rally in Seattle -- is confronted by hundreds of angry men shouting that the Clintons are going to destroy their way of life, ban guns, extend abortion rights, protect gays, and socialize medicine. When she finishes speaking and tries to leave the rally, her Iimousine is surrounded by protesters. Each of the four caravan routes becomes an expedition into enemy territory -- with better-armed, better-prepared, better-mobilized anti-Clinton protesters at each stop along the way. Local reform groups and caravan organizers are forced to cancel scheduled stops because of implicit threats of violence ...

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/forum/may96/background/health_debate_page1.html

Very informative timeline --- well worth examining in detail
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 05:44 PM
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12. That timeline is excellent, but it completely omits an even bigger contributor to the 1994 loss...
and that was the IDIOTIC gun ban that the DLC rammed through in 1994, that became law in September, just a month before the election. Unlike the health care debate, which was abstract and esoteric, the gun ban was concrete, and was accompanied by lots of finger-wagging and insults directed at gun-owning nonhunters.

Alienated Rural Democrat (with thanks to DU's virginiamountainman)

There are those who would like to repeat that debacle in 2010.


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Dems and the Gun Issue - Now What? (written in '04, largely vindicated in '06, IMO)

The Conservative Roots of U.S. Gun Control
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:09 PM
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13. Nice try. But this thread concerns the Republican decision to kill healthcare, not gun policy
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 02:27 PM
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15. Quite so. Just pointing out that health care was not the sole cause of the '94 loss. (n/t)
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 07:19 PM
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7. WIN + WIN
How awesome would that be!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 08:09 PM
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8. Public Health care works. Too bad conservatives are so selfish they
have to try and keep something good away from the majority of AMericans. They aren't in the game to help the middle class and that is obvious now. Americans are finally seeing it. Welcome to the rest of the Western World. Perhaps then America will not rate beside the Russians and the Mexicans on the equality index.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 09:52 PM
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9. That works for me. n/t
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 11:11 PM
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10. Kick.
Though I don't think it will kill off the nazi party if we were to get a right to healthcare (which remains to be seen, from the way Obama has talked so far). As someone pointed out on another thread, when England got the NHS running, it didn't stop their conservative party.


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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 02:35 PM
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16. A big "THANK YOU!"
I am an cancer survivor who was rejected for individual health insurance by three major insurance companies who finally received employment and group insurance. I despise the Republican Party for its willingness to sacrifice my life and the lives of other "un-insurables" just to retain power. Republicanism is the human incarnation of evil and it is fitting that something which extends health insurance to all is the instrument of the death of that evil.
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BanTheGOP Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 04:49 PM
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11. Banning the GOP outright is the only solution
You know that the republican party will not go away because of a defeat in the Health Care initiative. More probable is the emergence of another Karl Rove-esque monster to take his place to beat the drums of the "commie-pinko democrats".

Indeed, the reason the monsters pop up is this ludicrous idea that the republican party is a "political party," but it seems that the debates have been made throughout the years. It can be shown unquestionably, that the republican party was good as dead in the 30's after being 100% responsible for the Great Depression. The only way it could come back to power was the McCarthy witch hunts in the 50's, which signified the acceleration of the criminal traits of the republican party in American, and planetary, history.

At this point in history, there is NO problem that could not be fixed with socially just, progressive political parties. But the existence of the republican party, which has sponsored every major economic destructive, socially destructive, and environmentally destructive law in the past 60 years.

Next year, I will be establishing a foundation that will advance the notion that we need to indemnify the existence of the republican party, and seed it with money from like-minded organizations. I believe that with only 5 million dollars*, we can destroy the republican party, its influence, and its tenets once and for all, and accelerate true democracy and social justice NOT just in America, but in the world itself. Not from guns, but from ideas and fairness.

Let's get to work!

*This figure is being adjusted as all monies WILL be accounted for TO THE PENNY. More details later.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-08 10:58 PM
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14. Study history. If Obama reveals the crimes of the GOP under Bush
Edited on Fri Dec-12-08 10:59 PM by McCamy Taylor
as FDR did with the help of Pecora and if he enacts election reform to ensure fair elections in 2010, the filibuster obstructionist policies which the GOP will enact in the next two years to keep the Dems from achieving popularity will cause the Republicans to achieve the notoriety of Charles Manson. Then, Obama can solidify his Dem majority with a filibuster proof 60 plus seat Democratic Senate in 2010.

That is the Prize that Dems should be aiming for----if Republicans are dumb enough to keep pulling stunts like their attempt to drive GM into bankruptcy.

BTW, it is times for unions to head down south and make a big effort to court southern auto workers. Latinos, who are becoming an increasingly important part of the southern workforce, as usually very eager to join unions.
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