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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:03 AM
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What do the Senate oppostion to the Car Loan have in common?
I'll try to answer my own question:

Southern accents.

States with Right to Work laws.

Japanese, German, or Korean car manufacturers firmly ensconced and subsidized, payoing far below UAW wage rates.

Have I got it about right?
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:06 AM
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1. Is the whole question there? nt
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:07 AM
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3. Yes. To wit: What commonality is there among the Senate oppostion to the car loan bill?
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:13 AM
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8. Thanks. The first one doesn't appear to compare anything to
something else.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:19 AM
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9. The word "opposition" in that sentence is plural. The comparison is between them .....
.... them being the opposition. The opposition being all the Senators who oppose the bill.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:07 AM
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2. You could add Southern states have jobs that Northern states want and foreign auto companies produce
cars that consumers buy rather than those produced by Ford, GM, Chrysler.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:09 AM
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6. One could also say that southern states want the jobs now in the north
And PROVE that our cars are not wanted by consumers?

That is not rhetorical. PROVE your spurious allegation.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:21 AM
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10. "spurious allegation"! ROFLMAO Facts are GM, FORD, Chrysler want a handout because they can't
survive in a competitive market place for various reasons.

The current problem did not just happen, it has been building for years and some would argue it's just a scam for the big 3 auto makers to dump their retirement debt on taxpayers.

In any case, I believe we taxpayers will bail out the big 3, pick up some of their retirement obligations, and workers will bear a heavy burden if their expected checks are reduced.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:24 AM
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11. You can laugh all you want, but you didn't answer the question
PROVE they make cars no one wants.

PROVE that and maybe I'll listen to the rest of what you have to say.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:31 AM
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13. "PROVE they make cars no one wants"! You are too funny! The facts that the Big 3 have seen
market share decline over the past decade while foreign cars increase is the only fact I need.

Suggest you read very carefully Automotive industry crisis of 2008 for the basics.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:27 AM
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12. It's remarkable that anyone could call one kind of subsidy "competitive" ...
... and call another kind of subsidy non-competitive. The myopia is amazing.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:51 AM
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14. Did someone say one type of subsidy was competitive and another non-competitive? n/t
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:08 AM
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4. It's just a matter of time...
before they are in front of the Congress asking for a bailout of the foreign companies. I'll bet within a year?
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:09 AM
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5. Interesting
that the family values crowd in red states, who value their families way more then people in blue states are getting less because they have the "right to work" then the auto workers in blue states who work for domestic car companies and who get pensions and health insurance for their families. And yet, per those trained by right wing radio, they value their families way less then the guys who can't quite afford all those good perks. Yes. Conservative values. Said over and over to get the ignorant to vote against their best interests.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 11:10 AM
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7. Bingo!
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