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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 12:39 PM Original message |
Lest we forget: the Partnership for a New Generation of Vehicles |
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predfan (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. I had a salesman in this week who usually drives about 1000 miles a week........ |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Was the PNGV even discussed at the Bailout bearings? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. A concept = / = an economically viable production vehicle |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. They never even tried - and now want a $34 billion bailout. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Effort will not make exotic, NASA style technology cost $15k |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Neither hybrids nor fuel-efficient diesels constitute "exotic NASA style technology" |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Why doesn't ANY manufacturer offer cars like these for the US market? |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. They are both economically viable and environmentally necessary |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Then why aren't they being sold by ANY manufacturer??? |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. The PNGV cars WERE US emissions legal |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. So...if Detroit won't build them, what's stopping Toyota? And VW? And Nissan? |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. According to your gaping hole logic - no one in the US would buy a 80-100 mpg car |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. No, you are completely misrepresenting my point. Right now, a 100 mpg can't be produced |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Well, VW makes a 33mpg diesel Jetta. That's 8mpg better than the non-diesel model. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. And when they put a smaller diesel engine on a smaller car it does even better. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. It's a far cry from 80 mpg, let alone 100. nt |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. My big 4 cylinder (2.5l) gets 32 mpg highway. nt |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. The Jetta is a pretty big car with a pretty big engine. Look at the smaller Golf-sized car... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Why don't they sell the 70 mpg Golf in the US? |
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GoesTo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. I worked on that. We knew the answers in 1994. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Agreed |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Wow: "No one has much sympathy - nor should they - for the big 3 and the UAW." |
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