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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:09 AM Original message |
People Like SUV's Because Detroit Advertisers Mindfuck Them Into Wanting Them |
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jpljr77 (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
1. Congress is culpable as well. |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
29. ABC News 2003: Fed Tax Break Encourages SUV Purchases (6000+ lbs) |
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KakistocracyHater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
82. but but but but but |
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jakefrep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
36. A tax deduction that existed in some fashion ever since... |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
2. No, it's because most people are actually so fucking dumb they listen to advertisers |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. You are too arrogant to understand marketing and I'm sure at some point you've been sucked in |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Too arrogant to understand it? You have no idea - I understand marketing entirely. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. You don't understand marketing at all. It works not because people are stupid but it uses symbols |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. If the marketers are able to discover how to manipulate, then we are able to see it. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
49. This is a test of how well you know how marketing works |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #49 |
70. Decodable -- that's a good word. If it's decodable, it's resistible. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Thanks for telling the class that you failed this test |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Dude, I'm not disagreeing with you at all about the power of advertising. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Actually your posts made fun of the science |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. No, you need to look at them more closely - I don't believe in the UNSTOPPABLE power |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Ah the grammar attack... COOL |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. LOL! You're precious. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Nobody is haranguing you |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #79 |
96. Deleted sub-thread |
Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #74 |
98. On a Coke Machine at work... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #11 |
30. But there is a defense against that. |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. No, you are a HAPLESS VICTIM! A VICTIM of the magical marketing Wizard Gods! |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
83. Do you own an IPod?? |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 07:49 AM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Yes, I do - I bought one a year ago, after much research into mp3 players |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. It's not a stupid thing to ask, and since you feel that way |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. You added no context to it, offering it as a rhetorical "gotcha!" question |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. The fact that you |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. It shows the power of advertising in letting people know what products are available |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Exactly. When I bought my van, I essentially knew |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. I don't. Having worked in marketing and marketing communications, |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
54. Marketers lie, but caveat emptor |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. I have to agree |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Thank you. Blaming advertisers for doing their job is like |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. SCIENCE has proven that people don't even know why they make their own decisions |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Well, then, we're all hapless victims of the Wizard Gods of Marketing. I'm buying an SUV! |
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VPStoltz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
99. Hey! I'm totally with you. |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. Thanks! I'm flabbergasted at the people who think so little of themselves they willingly embrace |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
4. Wasn't it the automakers... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
5. I drive one because I actually go off-road fairly often |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
6. People Like $PRODUCT Because $COMPANY Advertisers Mindfuck Them Into Wanting Them |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
7. oh bullshit |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. I agree |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Not all "big cars" are SUV's which were built on truck frames making them prone to roll-overs |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. True |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
35. Well, it worked on you then. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
59. That's a rather silly argument. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
60. Dupe. NT |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #35 |
64. well i don't get turned on by it |
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uncle ray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. jeep buyers are not the problem. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 02:59 PM Response to Reply #42 |
65. are Jeeps considered SUVs, in terms of the OP? n/t |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
9. Oh, Advertising and P/R doesn't influence consumer behavior... |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
34. right. In fact, there's no reason for companies to spend millions on advertising every year |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
13. I agree, the mfgs. pushed the SUV, and I can't blame them. They were |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. SUV's were MARKETED as safe despite their roll-over vulnerability. SUV Commercial- |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. The rollover vulnerability is especially a problem for inexperienced drivers |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
16. People were perfectly happy with station wagons for AGES |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. People drove station wagons... |
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ben_meyers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
18. Works in politics too it would seem. |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
97. Yeah |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
21. and the govt gives a tax break on them |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
22. It's the management culture that only knows how to do things |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. thanks for understanding my point and using the word cattywampus. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Advertising only goes so far, though |
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Medusa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
58. And now that gas is going down again in price |
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carlyhippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #58 |
87. some people can't give up their suvs and pickups, hopefully they learn to conserve gas |
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
24. Marketing had nothing to do with my decision when I bought my SUV |
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Locrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
28. not that simple |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
33. This theory assumes that all people can be manipulated by advertising |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
38. Anyone who thought about it objectively would agree. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
39. People like them because they want to sit high over everyone else |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
63. SUV's were designed with marketing psychologists help. Wheel hubs look like clenched fists |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. interesting... I can see that.. n/t |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
40. Consumers weren't unsuspecting victims |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
41. "Will the Owner of the White Minivan Please Move Your Vehicle?" |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
105. OK, I admit it |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
43. Ummm, how do explain the Nissan Titan and the Honda Pilot then??? |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
44. most people with SUVs i see have them to show off |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Too bad we couldn't put you in every car dealer so you could tell the potential SUV buyers what they |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. do yo say that when we are talking about rights for gays and women ? |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Of course I believe in rights for gays and women. My sister-in-law is both! |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
45. Don't watch TV much, do you? |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
46. So they should be mindfucked into liking something else? |
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zane25 (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
47. Some of us just like our Jeeps |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
48. I think it's more the FEAR factor. USians have become so fearful of their own shadows |
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BuelahWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
67. They can also use "fear" as an excuse |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
51. People are sheep and victims. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
52. Blah blah blah. People are mindless, stupid, mouthbreathing sheep. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
55. Damn! And all this time I thought I bought my Tahoe because it was big enough for me |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #55 |
69. I used to hate SUV's until I bought one... |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 02:58 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Here is mine |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
57. bullshit. people buy them because they LIKE them. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. but, but, you only THINK you like them, because the marketers have mindfucked you |
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EnviroBat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
61. I always thought that the only reason I'd ever own a SUV would |
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War Pigs (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-05-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
62. Women drive big SUVs for the same reason that short guys |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 06:10 AM Response to Reply #62 |
73. The only way you would know that is if you checked out the anatomy of every SUV owner |
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carlyhippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 10:17 PM Response to Reply #62 |
77. excuse me for a second......looks down front of pants..... |
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BlueCollar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 05:50 AM Response to Original message |
72. I own a 1998 Jeep Cherokee |
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Truthiness Inspector (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-06-08 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
84. My two cents... |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
88. Station wagon -> Minivan -> SUV |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
92. is that all folks want from a car? |
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carlyhippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. I do....and that was another reason why I bought an SUV |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #92 |
101. What about the people in the other vehicle? |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Did I say I owned a Tahoe or an Expedition? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-08-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #101 |
110. what if the Prius driver was the asshole who caused the accident? |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-08-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Prius drivers are too perfectly holier-than-thou to cause accidents |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
100. This meme is so dumb it hurts. People buy what they choose. |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
104. Great way to win people over - tell them they are retarded idiots. |
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trayfoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
106. I TOTALLY agree that advertising has an influence! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
107. Which simply proves that P.T. Barnum was right about American consumers. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
108. no moreso than any product: why buy an energy-draining flat screen tv? just a big CO2 producer |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-07-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. If its an LCD screen, there more efficient than a regular tube tv. |
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