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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:01 PM
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Lets face it,
The Auto industry got screwed by big oil companies,
but thats another debate.

How many gallon tanks does your car carry.

I've heard that most American cars have up to 13 or 14
gallon tank which if you do the math is nothing compared to
Japanese or European cars.

A 13 gallon tank in a vehicle that does 14-18 miles per gallon
does not go too far does it???

This is one of the major problems with the Auto industry added to
that is the fact that American cars are not well built.

Most cars are recalled based on some kind of malfunction and after
30,000 miles YOU start having MAJOR problems with American cars.

They have to start building quality cars for the American public.

Yes the bailout will help, but they need to build good quality affordable
vehicles that the buying public can be proud of.

Most folks gets mad at how often they have to take their vehicle to the
dealership/garage to get it fix and still can't solve the problem. It
cost money to do repairs on cars and if you have to take your car to
repair shop regularly you end up being fed up and will look for a better
more refined quality vehicle.

Why are the Japanese and European making affordable quality cars that last
as long as you want????

Do you know Ford have quality engine in England that they refused to sell
in America... yes I'm talking about the Cosworth engine, one of the best in
the World.

FAST, POWERFUL and FUEL EFFICIENT, can't beat that can you....

here;

http://www.cosworth.com/
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:02 PM
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1. Ford's quality is on par with Toyota, Honda, and much superior to VW, Nissan.
Welcome to 2008. :hi:
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:06 PM
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2. I just felt that
the American public have been getting the short end of the stick for so long
that they owe it to the public to produce better quality, fuel efficency
vehicle.

GM, Chrysler and Ford.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:08 PM
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4. Nope, Japanese cars still lead in reliability.
Although Ford's improving over other American cars.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:11 PM
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5. Nonsense. There is no such thing as "Japanese cars"--there are Toyotas, Nissans, Hondas, etc.
Each has an independent quality ranking. Nissan and Subaru, for example, have had questionable quality for years.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:07 PM
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3. I was in the market for a car in the spring
If Ford hadn't discontinued the Taurus and if they had forsight to make it a hybrid, I would have bought one. They discontinued their best sedan - what assholes! The Taurus was the best car they had! I bought a Camry in May.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:11 PM
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6. They still make the Taurus, and it's a great car. My wife drives an '08.
:hi:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:12 PM
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7. Sorry, but my current 1999 Saturn has never been in the shop for anything but regular
maintenance. It will beat almost every model of Honda or Toyota out there on mileage. I have a 12 gallon tank and have consistently gotten 40 MPG traveling on highways between here and Stillwater, OK.

The only vehicle I ever had that was a disappointment was a Mazda 626, that I kept only about 6 months and traded it in on a Chevy.
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bluecollarcharlie Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:44 PM
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8. I don't know where you heard that from....
...in fact i don't think you even bothered to do a Google search on what you "heard". the simple fact remains that the japanese autos are losing the competitive advantage in quality, will be losing the competitive advantage in wages, and as for this ridiculous notion of American autos only having 13 0r 14 gallon tanks, you really need to look up this stuff before you post. My Taurus had a 20 gallon tank. My Thunderbird has an 18 gallon one. Hell my Alero has at least a 15 gallon tank. When you post stuff like this you are not posting from a point of objectivity you are posting from a point of perception. If you were really objective you would know that Toyota had problems with camshafts breaking in the Tundra pickups or that the Camry had sludge problems they were FORCED to acknowledge. Or that Honda Odysseys were eating there own transmissions for lunch. Or that Subaru had all sorts of problems with clutch springs. All that information is out there all you have to do is check. but it doesn't fit in with your world view so you won't. So much for the idea that democrats are more fair.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 01:48 PM
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9. Don't pull opinions out of your ass then admonish me to "face it".
Edited on Thu Dec-04-08 01:49 PM by lumberjack_jeff
Besides, Cosworth is not new to these shores. They powered Chevy Vegas in the '70s

http://www.cosworthvega.com/
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 02:10 PM
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10. Sales for Toyota and Honda are down "at least 30%'.

Sales for US auto manufacturers are down "approximately 30%".

So if US sales are down because their cars are so much worse than the Japanese cars, how do you explain Japanese car sales being down by virtually the exact same amount?


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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:47 PM
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11. I think you are missing my point
it's not about sales, its about making quality affordable cars.
We all know the economy has not helped auto industry these
past years but producing/manufacturing quality affordable cars
will help the big three immensely.

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:51 PM
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12. Anyone still repeating the meme that US cars are not well built aren't playing with a full deck
Edited on Thu Dec-04-08 09:57 PM by NNN0LHI
Or maybe working for a foreign auto maker?

Don
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