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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 02:10 PM
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Roger Ebert Finally Reviews "Expelled"
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2008/12/win_ben_steins_mind.html

Win Ben Stein's mind
By Roger Ebert on December 3, 2008 12:25 AM | Permalink | Comments (135) | TrackBacks (0)

(I've been accused of refusing to review Ben Stein's documentary "Expelled," a defense of Creationism, because of my belief in the theory of evolution. Here is my review.)

Ben Stein, you hosted a TV show on which you gave away money. Imagine that I have created a special edition of "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" just for you. Ben, you've answered all the earlier questions correctly, and now you're up for the $1 million prize. It involves an explanation for the evolution of life on this planet. You have already exercised your option to throw away two of the wrong answers. Now you are faced with two choices: (A) Darwin's Theory of Evolution, or (B) Intelligent Design.

Because this is a special edition of the program, you can use a Hotline to telephone every scientist on Earth who has an opinion on this question. You discover that 99.975 of them agree on the answer (A). A million bucks hangs in the balance. The clock is ticking. You could use the money. Which do you choose? You, a firm believer in the Constitution, are not intimidated and exercise your freedom of speech. You choose (B).

Squaaawk!!! The klaxon horn sounds. You have lost. Outraged, you file suit against the program, charging it is biased and has denied a hearing for your belief. Your suit argues that the "correct" answer was chosen because of a prejudice against the theory of Intelligent Design, despite the fact that .025 of all scientists support it. You call for (B) to be discussed in schools as an alternative theory to (A).
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I don't think I've ever see him this angry about a film before.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 02:14 PM
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1. "Christians" are the biggest fucking whiners on the planet
Right now in a cave somewhere young republicans are trying to come up with a new name to replace "intelligent design."
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 02:15 PM
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3. the big legal case in Dover about intelligent design
came down to a finding that NO support for i.d. comes from anywhere other than creationist sources.. i.e. the Dover law suit showed that I.D. is merely creationism in drag.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:24 PM
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9. Not sure about that
What about the Muslims? Remember that whole blow up over a bunch of silly cartoons?
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:30 PM
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10. Point well taken my friend
Maybe we can agree that "beliefs" rather then knowledge is an incredibly big part of bad things that go on on the planet.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 02:14 PM
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2. it's sad to see Stein whoring himself out to idiots
Ebert went easy on him.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 02:22 PM
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4. Oh, how I wish I could make this required reading for legislators.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:20 PM
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5. It probably took him this long to write it without profanity.
I have no idea what Ebert's belief or lack thereof might be, but I do know he's an intelligent and cultured man.

I'm not a bit surprised by this review.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:20 PM
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6. Glad to see that Ebert's medical problems have not dimmed his fire one bit.
Kick his ass, Roger. Intellectually speaking, of course.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:20 PM
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7. Roger is a fine liberal, a great reviewer - writer and as funny as anyone I've read.
that includes my other favorites HST, Bukowski and Gore Vidal.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:21 PM
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8. win.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:37 PM
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11. This is a bit of a tangent, but I have a question.
Edited on Wed Dec-03-08 03:37 PM by Marr
Shouldn't the entire "intelligent design" argument be demolished by a single example of sub-optimal design in nature? I mean, the only way there could be a deviation from god's designs is mutation, and mutation is what they're denying.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:38 PM
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12. Marr, any number of facts completely demolishes the intelligent design argument.
They're not interested in facts.

They're organized liars.
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mrfrapp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:51 PM
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15. Yes it should
Shouldn't the entire "intelligent design" argument be demolished by a single example of sub-optimal design in nature?

You're right and there are many examples of sub-optimal "designs". The best example is the human eye. "The Blind Watchmaker" by Richard Dawkins is the best introductory text on this subject.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 04:21 PM
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13. This might be the single best thing I've ever read.
Thank you for this post.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:10 PM
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14. kick.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:48 PM
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16. K&R!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:53 PM
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17. WOW that was long ...and very good
Stein used a NY Post from the 40's?? :rofl:

The rest was more informative than it was a review.

Very good
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:53 PM
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18. I was surprised about that myself.
It just kept going... and I mean that in an entirely positive way. He really must have been thinking about this for a long time.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 10:54 PM
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19. Ebert's great.
:applause:
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judasdisney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 07:19 AM
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20. Ebert is a National Hero and a treasure.
His liberalism isn't shallow. He's as committed as it gets. I trust him entirely.
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