I'm sorry for you Virginians..you have some idiotic republican "public servants" (edited )

[SoCalDem]

I bet you cannot wait to get more "good ones".. I watched a pompous little troll you have now..

He actually thinks that "entrepreneurial spirit" will "save" the economy.

Unfortunately, no one there reminded him that NOW is the WORST time EVER, for any entrepreneur to start a business..

Perhaps there was a time when a brilliant young (emphasis on the young part) person could start up a business in their garage , and end up a millionaire...employing thousands in the process, but those times are long gone, buddy-boy..

Garages are probably emptier these days (what with car repos) but there are FEW people these days who could even THINK of starting their own business as anything more than a last ditch kamikaze move to support their own family, after a job loss.. These are likely to be SUBSISTENCE businesses with very long hours, for very little income, and come with NO benefits for the family.

Add to that, the fact that banks are not throwing money at people with "ideas" for new businesses. They won;t even loan to established businesses, and they're having a hard time keeping their own doors open, and are trying mightily to avoid being gobbled up by bigger banks.

BUT... if we had a truly universal, single-payer, non-exclusionary health care plan for all citizens, there WOULD be more people willing to take that leap of faith it takes to start a business..a business that hires people, and creates more jobs than for the immediate family.

Health care costs to employers and the inability to afford them for entrepreneurs are the clogs in the faucet..

Everyone is in a "holding pattern"...fearing loss of a job, for employees.... fearful to hire anyone, for employers.... afraid to start a business, for everyone with an "idea"..


EDITED:.. i WAS WATCHING THE GOVERNOR'S MEETING PRESSER, AS I WOKE UP FROM A NAP, AND ASSUMED THAT THE GUY TALKING WAS THE GOVERNOR..(forgot about Kaine)....


sorry:cry:

[rvablue]

1. SoCalDem, this is the danger of taking one isolated comment from a politician

and then projecting :puke: all over it.

Tim Kaine has been a fine governor......a hell of a lot better than yours.

And while VA needs a little help, at least we aren't asking the feds for $15 billion. We actually have to pay property taxes based on value here in VA.

[SoCalDem]

4. Oops.. It was NOT the governor..my bad.. I forgot about Kaine..

The guy speaking was "labeled" as (R-VA)..and I could have sworn it was with the Governer's meeting aftermath.. I kept seeing Ahhhnold & Fast Eddie Rendell alternating, and then this guy popped up... Mea culpa...

(off to change the subject line & figure out who it was )... he was a weasely little guy...

[rvablue]

11. No worries....any chance it was Eric Cantor?

He is the minority whip now and a congressman from central VA....and a major turd.

[SoCalDem]

12. I don't think it was him... He's the one who looks a bit like Colbert, isn;t he?

Damn.. I should stay fully awake when I watch tv :grr:

[rvablue]

14. I guess, although you just kind of

ruined my BIG crush on Colbert for drawing that analogy.

Too bad you got so many flames on this....but now you know those of us in VA are a proud bunch after turning our state completely blue.....we are BLUER than CA now.....

:applause:

[SoCalDem]

17. Found him....

[rvablue]

18. Don't have a clue who this is??? n/t

[SoCalDem]

19. Mark Sanford.....edit..He's gov of SC, apparently

he was IDed as R-VA gov in the film I saw as I woke up..


I guess he IS governor..of South Carolina.. Boy was I ever drowsy :rofl:


Talk about a TRAINWRECK of a post :rofl:

The person "tagging" the speakers got the state wrong.. and then I made it worse :)

[arcadian]

5. Sweet, a turf war.

Just how many President's has California produced? Reagan and Nixon. I rest my case. :P

[SoCalDem]

8. ahem... did you read the edit?

:)

I plead drowsiness:)

[bobbolink]

2. "Statistical evidence already suggests that the American dream is fading."

p. 3 "We the people. They refute last week's television commentary downgrading our optimism and idealism. They are the entrepreneurs, the builders, the pioneers, and a lot of regular folks--the true heroes of our land who make up the most uncommon nation of doers in history. You know they're Americans because their spirit is as big as the universe, and their hearts are bigger than their spirit... America isn't finished, her best days have just begun." Ronald Reagan, State of the Union Address, January 27, 1987

"Statistical evidence already suggests that the American dream is fading." The Wall Street Journal, March 31, 1989

p. 54 The exaggerations of cyclical theorists notwithstanding, these policy shifts and mood swings do seem to have recurred at forty- to fifty-year intervals. There has even been a somewhat predictable sequence of outcomes: economic benefits have come first, as enterprise-oriented policies unleash latent capitalist energies; then the dislocations have followed, including speculative excesses and even market crashes. After ten to fifteen years of heyday psychology, some major economic or market contraction occurs.

The United States, under Republican political leadership, had arguably passed through three such commercial epochs-- the Gilded Age (cresting from 1880 or so to the mid-1890s), the 1920s and the Reagan era.

The Politics Of Rich And Poor
Wealth and the American Electorate in the Reagan Aftermath
Kevin Phillips 1990


Your time has passed, Gov. Get a grip.

[onenote]

3. and tell us about your fine governor, the rocket scientist

[SoCalDem]

7. Ahhhhnold is an ASS..always has been..can't wait to get rid of him

I am SOOOOO glad he is Austrian, or he;d probably end up president:scared:

[Midlodemocrat]

16. I live in Virginia and I approve this post.

:thumbsup:

The OP is just ridiculously silly.

[damonm]

6. I feel sorry for your negative attitude....

Unfortunately, no one there reminded him that NOW is the WORST time EVER, for any entrepreneur to start a business..

History's against you there, champ.
During the depression, more millionaires were created than in any decade in the nation's history.
This is simply the birth pain of a new economy, and those with a success mindset will find a way to succeed.
I'm one of 'em.

[SoCalDem]

9. did you read further?

:)

[damonm]

15. Yes, I did.

And I stand by what I said.
True entrepreneurs will find and/or MAKE ways to succeed, whatever is in their path.
This is why I laugh SO HARD at Rethugs who cry about upper-end tax increases - any entrepreneur worthy of the name won't waste their time complaining about it; they'll find a way around, under, over, or through.
And it IS small business that will save the economy - that's where jobs are created and where innovation comes from.
Obama will make it easier, that's for sure. But this guy you bemoan was not entirely wrong, even if he is a Rethug.

[onenote]

10. Yes, we have some repub "public servants". That hardly makes VA unique

At least we've been electing more and more Democrats.

[KamaAina]

13. They have one fewer than they did this time last month

they kicked Virgil Goode (R-Actually Very, Very Bad) to the curb. :bounce: They also elected a second Dem Senator and went Blue for President for the first time in 40 years.