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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:34 PM
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Mumbai attacks: Terrorists took cocaine, LSD to stay awake during assault
Terrorists who battled Indian commandos for 60-hours last week relied on cocaine and other stimulants to stay awake for the duration of the fight.

Officials said drug paraphernalia, including syringes, was recovered from the scene of the attacks, which killed almost 200 people.

The heavily built men, who had undergone training at a special marine camp established by the Lashkar-e-Taibat (LeT) terrorist group in Pakistan, had also used steroids to build a tougher physique.

"We found injections containing traces of cocaine and LSD left behind by the terrorists and later found drugs in their blood," said one official.

"There was also evidence of steroids, which isn't uncommon in terrorists.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/3540964/Mumbai-attacks-Terrorists-took-cocaine-to-stay-awake-during-assault.html

It just gets worse and worse and weirder and weirder. Taking LSD????????
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:36 PM
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1. They thought they were actually playing World of Warcraft. n/t
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:38 PM
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2. Dammit, Ian!
You have a talent for finding the most inappropriate thing to say for any occasion.

:ROFL:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:39 PM
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3. Fuck yah. n/t
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:42 PM
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4. Can I hire you for my cousin's wedding?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:43 PM
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5. Obnoxious wedding guest services start at $300 an hour. Making a toast is an extra $200. n/t
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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:46 PM
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6. I blame video games
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 05:46 PM by RedCappedBandit
Most first person shooters feature some sort of stim pack, which is a health booster that you can inject into your body to increase hit points. This is obviously where they got the idea, and video games need to be banned!

That said, I sure as hell wouldn't want to take LSD before doing something as completely fucked up as going on a shooting spree.


THAT said, what a bunch of sick freaks.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:29 PM
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15. Are you being serious or sarcastic?
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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:25 PM
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30. Quite sarcastic
I love my video games. I love my stim packs. I don't like using drugs to enhance my ability to harm people, though. :D

(Drugs, for other reasons, however.. :D )
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ACTION BASTARD Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:21 PM
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29. Hahahaha! That's an excellent fake post.
Yes, it was Quake 4 that made me do it. If your fake posting then continue with your shenanigans. If your serious then please eject yourself into the hard surface of your choice.

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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:28 PM
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31. Fake?
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:49 PM
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7. Frightening. This rumor had been reported on CNN-IB early on
and I was wondering how they knew so early, but one would imagine they would have to be on something because they came prepared for a multi-day standoff. Authorities probably confiscated some of the dead terrorists' backpacks or something.

Boy... That was one of the scariest ugliest things I've ever watched.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:52 PM
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8. I heard they listened to Air America and voted for Obama.
Probably played Dungeons and Dragons too.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:55 PM
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9. LSD to stay awake??? That's like using a rotary sander to scratch an itch!
wonder if they knew what they were taking?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:59 PM
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11. It makes me wonder if the story is true.
It also makes me wonder why any one would believe it.
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:04 PM
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13. yep, it's getting pretty hard to determine anything anymore
gad, just the thought of being on an acid high and blood letting is unimaginable to me.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:31 PM
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16. Sounds like BS too me
the media reports all kinds of rubbish nowadays. LSD? traces of steroids?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:42 AM
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42. me too. lsd is just the ticket when you're planning a complicated stealth assault.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:57 PM
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24. My guess: The story is BS. Cocaine is a poor choice for staying awake, except for
15 minutes to a half hour maybe. LSD would make it difficult to coordinate efforts.

Methamphetamine would work, but why inject it?

Naw, the story is bogus.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 01:15 AM
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38. Great analogy!
NT!

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:59 PM
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10. Drugs are bad, m'kay?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:01 PM
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12. Give them training, hype them up, dope them up, set them loose.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:26 AM
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45. I think the OP was about Mumbai not Iraq (n/t)
:hide:
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:08 PM
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14. Couldn't they just have bought a couple cans of Monster? nt
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:34 PM
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17. LSD? Why?
Cocaine and steroids I can understand. But why would they want to be tripping?
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:38 PM
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18. It doesnt make any sense.
I wonder if they laughed maniacally because of the acid?
And, there would be the possibility that the terrorists would change their minds about wanting to harm others, since LSD can cause some heavy psychological awareness.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:10 PM
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27. When I dosed in high school it kept me up all night , BUT
perhaps it's something more sinister ..

A super bad Trip with all those weapons in the
wrong hands :scared: super SCARY ..

Think vampires , werewolves or even resident
evil or 28 days later .... Egads !

OMG Clowns :scared: on acid no fun ....



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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:51 PM
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19. LSD, coke, steroids and an AK-47
Where's that Cheney fellow? Wanna go lawyer huntin?
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:57 PM
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20. "injections containing traces of ... LSD"
They supposedly injected LSD?

Um, I'm no expert on the subject, but I've never heard of anyone injecting LSD. Is that even something that's done? :shrug:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:58 PM
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21. No, they totally do that.
I saw it on Dragnet.
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:03 PM
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23. Good point.

Why don't they make educational shows like that anymore? :shrug:
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:58 PM
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25. The NSA experimented with LSD in the 50's and 60's
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 08:01 PM by mgdecombe
In the right doses, it can be used to manipulate a soldier's behavior. Injection would be the way to deliver a precise dose.


Edited to add:

"Throughout the course of MKULTRA, the CIA sponsored numerous
experiments on unwitting humans. After the death of one such
individual (Frank Olson, an army scientist, was given LSD in 1953
and committed suicide a week later), an internal CIA
investigation warned about the dangers of such experimentation.
The CIA persisted in this practice for at least the next ten
years. After the 1963 IG report recommended termination of
unwitting testing, Deputy Director for Plans Richard Helms (who
later became Director of Central Intelligence) continued to
advocate covert testing on the ground that "positive operational
capability to use drugs is diminishing, owing to a lack of
realistic testing. With increasing knowledge of the state of the
art, we are less capable of staying up with the Soviet advances
in this field." Church Committee, Book I, at 402. The Church
Committee noted that "Helms attributed the cessation of the
unwitting testing to the high risk of embarrassment to the Agency
as well as the 'moral problem.' He noted that no better covert
situation had been devised than that which had been used, and
that 'we have no answer to the moral issue.'"

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/radiation/dir/mstreet/commeet/meet4/brief4.gfr/tab_j/br4j1.txt

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:03 PM
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26. Nope.
LSD was experimented with as a way to disorient your enemy.

and cocaine is a stupid choice for staying awake for a long period of time.


this story is BS. Don't believe everything you read in the papers.

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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:58 PM
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35. Check the link. Google is your friend, too.
This information is not from "the papers".

And the experiments were intended to learn about how to manipulate the human mind for many purposes, including disorienting the enemy and "improving" the performance of humans as killing machines.

One of my relatives took part in the experiments, and to his death, he regretted having participated. Never shared the details, but we all knew he had been part of something that went very much awry.

Still think it's BS? Whatevs.


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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 01:11 AM
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36. Those terrorists were not shooting LSD and/or coke.
if you care to believe they were, that's your problem.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:58 PM
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22. More proof that cocaine should be legal! You can stay up longer! And harder!
Or just drink 10 cups of coffee - helluva lot cheaper.
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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:29 PM
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32. Not at starbucks prices
:P
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:13 PM
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28. Maybe they weren't told about the acid , just the coke/speed
I'm thinking the leaders who sent them
put the acid in to create a bad trip for
the Bombay Murderers.

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 01:17 AM
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39. Why? So they would think there were WMD and would vote to pass the IWR?
I think the whole story is pure propaganda.

Why would you be thinking the leaders who sent them would be wanting to create a "bad trip" for their team? So they could be less effective?

See, I don't follow your line of reasoning here.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:49 PM
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33. Sounds like rubbish.
Amphetamines would make sense.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:02 PM
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34. How very UN-muslim of them
Almost ANY drug you can think of (except for caffeine) is STRICTLY VERBOTEN by Muslim crazy sects.

It's the equivalent of a Catholic "mortal sin".

Which leads to the obvious question - who ARE these "terrorists" and where did they get their knowledge of human physiology?

My money is on Pakistan's ISI.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 01:14 AM
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37. I feel compelled to remind DUers that not all drug users are homicidal maniacs.
Correlation is not causation.

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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:25 AM
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41. True, true
Very likely anyone who is a homicidal maniac is one because they are a homicidal maniac. I have experimented and have been addicted to a number of drugs and never was in a physical fight or anything like that. I didn't even steal but I did sell almost all of my personal belongings when I was hooked on Meth including over 5,000 basketball cards from when I was in elementary school. x(
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:28 AM
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46. I feel compelled to remind (US) DUers that the Telegraph is a right-wing rag ...
... with a history of throwing complete bullshit and/or propaganda
articles into the mix at the drop of a hat ...

"Correlation" in this case might be purely fictional.
:shrug:
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:28 AM
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47. Odd that you never seem willing to extend that idea
to religious people. Might want to keep it in mind.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:22 AM
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40. Meth would've worked better
I don't know about Cocaine, it gets you up but the high itself is relatively short. They must've had large amounts. LSD though? I never done LSD before but from what I've told I heard you hallucinate, are in a positive lovey mood(unless a bad trip), and all sorts of patterns and shapes. I smell BS but I don't completely rule it out because I don't know for a fact whether they did or not. But LSD? I never done it so someone please tell me how LSD helps? I've done cocaine before and as far as keeping you awake it isn't that much stronger then coffee imo. Meth would've been the better choice and I'm sure they could've got it if they wanted it. Asia is pseoudephedrine land.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:47 AM
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43. British soldiers on LSD, circa 1940s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK3xFYjM1Cg

"One hour 15 minutes after taking the drug, with one man climbing a tree to feed the birds, the troop commander gave up..."
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:18 AM
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44. When I was in Vietnam we had Army issue "Stay Awake Tablets"
Methamphetamine sulfate, in foil wrapped packets. They were designed for E&E but GIs got them and used them for entertainment..We also had "Obesitol" which we could buy from any local drug store..
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