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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 10:42 AM Original message |
Why destroy the car companies? |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
1. K/R |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
2. Didn't the car companies destroy themselves? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
51. Yes, they did. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
3. Your question implies there was a destroyer. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. They built what the citizens wanted. Toyota and Nissan built full size trucks, too. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Toyota and Honda now build HUGE trucks. nt |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Yes, of course. And they had nothing to do with what "the citizens wanted." |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. "Starting in the 1990s people suddenly wanted monster trucks and SUVs," |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. So what was the market share of trucks in 1936 compared to the 1990s? |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. In the mid-1960's, American car manufacturers were seeing the success of the utility vehicle market, |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. You call yourself a redneck, which may say enough. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Round and round we go. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Control issues? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #9 |
37. You might want to actually do some research before you open your mouth and look foolish |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
57. Mmm hmm. As a person that has actually OWNED these, I know you are full of shit. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 04:59 AM Response to Reply #8 |
33. The traditional story behind the rise of the SUV is that... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. They also engaged in MASSIVE demand creation for SUV's |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 05:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. "demand creation" "reinforced dysfunctional behavior""shortsighted and fearful American consumers". |
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Liberal Gramma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. OK, some people DO like SUVs and trucks and... |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
60. Um, that isn't the case already? They are expensive to buy and operate. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 04:04 AM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Irony, irony |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. "I want it" is not a reason for taxpayers to subsidize a disastrous industry |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Except for cheap credit you mean, right? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. False dichotomy. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. LOL. A comparison is the OPPOSITE of a dichotomy. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I'm not sure that makes sense... |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
58. Blaming it on "advertising" is some serious industrial strength denial. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-26-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Sounds like you read every fourth word and then repeat the same thing as before. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 07:37 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. "The DEVIL made me do it!" 2008 style. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
36. People bought them because of marketing and advertising. |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. That's bullshit. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. You should take a class on advertising or marketing. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
56. Denial is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. They like them because |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Because, as we all know, nobody but truck makers had marketing departments. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #36 |
59. Right, because only 'the bad guys' had marketing departments.... |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
44. Thank you. |
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pointblank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
54. Decider = Destroyer nt |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
5. Folks here are ready to pile on. nt |
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JohnnyRingo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
7. We're the only country in the world that would let it's major auto maunufacturers fail |
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StreetKnowledge (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. And you're quite correct |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
52. The US automakers want to go bankrupt so they can start over with their labor contracts. |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
13. The Big 3 is the next to the last Major industry to exist in this country. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. You mean the one remaining company that is still in the process of breaking the unions, |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 07:38 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. You are under some bizarre misapprehension that letting the Big 3 fail will help the unions. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 08:28 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Did I say that? No. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 08:35 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. One could argue that to bail out the Big 3's management without a "plan" to force |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 09:11 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. That's right. All we are hearing is how the unions have to concede even |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 04:42 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Face the music. UAW workers are already fucked. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
18. I'm not destroying a car company. Who do you ask your question in that way? |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
23. That would be fantastic. |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-24-08 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
26. Perhaps the UAW shouldn't have made enemies of so many Democrats. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 04:07 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. What are you talking about? |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. They lost my support with their ludicrous proposal for fuel efficiency standards. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I hadn't seen that. |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. Or maybe we could stop focusing on CAFE |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
41. Right. Labor is the longstanding enemy of the Left. |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 04:54 AM Response to Original message |
32. Bingo. Kill the Unions. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
53. And they will do that regardless of what "we" do |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 04:59 AM Response to Original message |
34. Maybe no connection, but China would like to buy them. They'd gain access to ... |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
43. they won't destroy the car companies, who are booming in their foreign operations |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
50. The automakers already plan to dissemble the unions! |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-25-08 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
55. It's not the auto industry. When all the manufacturing jobs leave the country |
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