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peruban (888 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 05:20 AM Original message |
What do you feel when you see this image.? |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. there's nothing 'brave' about self-immolation. |
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peruban (888 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 05:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. But it wasn't suicide for the sake of suicide. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. it accomplished absolutely NOTHING. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. i think those images helped get the United States to oppose the war |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. seeing as it happened in 1963...i doubt it. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
41. You couldn't be more wrong. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. it didn't do anything to end the war. |
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POAS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 06:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Personally, I see one dumb post! |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. why's that? |
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POAS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Were you around to see the influence |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. this particular monk took his life in 1963- what did his death accomplish? Absolutely nothing. |
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POAS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Well I take your answer to mean that |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. burning monks didn't end the war. |
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POAS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I see your totally lacking |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. and i see that you're lacking in basic grammar skills... |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 05:39 AM Response to Reply #29 |
46. It "is widely seen as the turning point of the Vietnamese Buddhist crisis... |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 05:40 AM Response to Original message |
3. These images startled America. The Brazilian Francisco Anselmo de Barros did this |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 06:12 AM Response to Original message |
4. They only get to do it once & its painfull to fail. I remember them on the |
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meowomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
5. I feel sad |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 06:32 AM Response to Original message |
6. I remember those days, and the effect it had. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
8. Always disappointing to see insufficient responses from shallow people. |
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BanzaiBonnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 08:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Thank you Judi |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. That poor monk immolated himself in 1963 |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
42. based on post # 30 he did it to protest Diem's persecution of Buddhists |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Well said |
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POAS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 05:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
47. Thanks for making the point Judi |
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Blue Velvet (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
10. I remember exactly where I was when I first saw this picture: |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
12. It's the ultimate guilt trip. Pointless and ineffective. It's also an admission of failure. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
13. Regardless of how some will try to elevate this to something noble. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. And yet we still remember this photograph, don't we? |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Just because we remember an action doesn't mean it was effective. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. This was only one of many powerful photos of the era... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
15. Apparently some people labor still with the illusion the VietNamese were wrong. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
16. It's power. For proof... |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
18. makes sense. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
22. I feel hopelessness |
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Aristus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
25. I always think of his sacrifice with awe and deep respect. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I agree. It was the ultimate act of a conscientious activist, consistent with his moral principles. |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
26. It doesn't matter what the fuck we think. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
28. I am not much into public suicide as a statement. n/t |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
30. He was protesting religious persecution by Ngo Din Diem. |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I did not know that |
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POAS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. He was only one of many. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. we mostly view Vietnam through our participation in the war |
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rasputin5 (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-22-08 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
31. He was an idiot. Dead people can't fix anything. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
44. I'm guessing he was depressed and felt hopeless despair, with or without the Vietnam war |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 04:24 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Sure, that's right. A man who has devoted his life to something greater is going to get moody, |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Suicide and depression are "trivial", you say? |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
49. I feel nothing. |
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TWiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-23-08 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
50. And, he accomplished ........ what? |
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