Obama needs to get his ass down to Georgia and keep it there for a couple of weeks

[ThomWV]

I am one of those who is not overly pleased with President-elect Obama so far and one of the real sticking points was his support of Lieberman's retention of his Chairmanship of a most important Committee. However I understand that a 60-seat majority in the Senate is possible and he was probably trying to attain that end.

If it is the case that Obama supported Lieberman in an attempt to get the 60 votes then there is no excuse what so ever for him not to head to Georgia and to essentially live there (his staff can continue the work of populating Washington from Georgia as well as anywhere else) until Martin has been elected over Saxby. His absence of presence and support is noticeable - very noticeable, surrogates will not do. If he wants a friendly Senate he has to get out there and do 2 more weeks worth of campaign work, its not over with yet.

[Thrill]

1. No thanks. Lets wait until he is sworn in before traveling

Don't want a wacko trying anything. I worry about his security right now. No traveling

[Dawgs]

2. Oh for fuck's sake.

If this is what it's going to be like on DU today, then count me out.

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. I'm with you.

Jesus Christ, the man was elected TWO weeks ago.

Let him tend to assembling his team in DC.

Oy.....................

[NOW tense]

3. Obama needs to assemble his team so he can do his job.

I think that it is far more important that he comes up with a plan for 1/20/09.

[bertman]

76. The things he's doing can also be done via cell phone, internet, staff interviews, etc.

Even if he's doing face-to-face interviews it's easy enough for these folks to fly TO HIM if his schedule demands.

I agree that he's busy now, but making time to campaign for Martin at least a couple of times before the election is not asking too much, considering what's at stake.

[Enrique]

4. he has an excuse for not being there

he's doing other things.

[ThomWV]

5. He seems to be getting good at the excuse thing

[mucifer]

6. and if chambliss wins anyway he'd start his new presidency with less power and less prepared.

[MiniMe]

13. Exactly. There would be consequences if Chambliss wins anyway

I believe he sent help from his campaign. But if he goes down there in person, and Chabliss wins, it will weaken his influence, not because Chabliss would win, but because he didn't influence the race. Obama is doing the right thing.

[CPschem]

7. Martin's gonna need a hand here in GA

I know Obama has plenty to do in DC, but I agree that it would be nice to see him make an appearance for Martin.

[breadandwine]

80. There are local Dems in GA who think Obama's personal presence is needed.

There were lots of new Democratic voters in Minnesota who zipped in and out of the voting booth in seconds because they only voted for Obama and did not bother voting in other races. Same threatens to happen in Georgia. Obama has now made a radio ad for GA but that is not the big push that is probably needed to stop Chambliss. Those young voters are not listening to the radio. They're listening more to their iPods. Remember when McCain "had" to suspend his campaign to solve the financial crisis, he said? And everyone jumped on him because a president is supposed to be able to do two things at the same time.

Now Obama is staying out of Georgia because he's too busy and can only do one thing at a time. This could mean Chambliss wins and Obama will face 8 years of frequent gridlock.

I will flatly predict: Chambliss wins re-election.

[hlthe2b]

8. Nice, respectful attitude you have going there....

"needs to get his ass down to GA and keep it there..." What next? You sound like some of the most denigrating (and often racist) comments from the RW.

Geebus...

[last_texas_dem]

62. I disagree

Your convenient editing of the "...for a couple of weeks" from the OP's subject line does make his statement look racist. That's not what he said, though.

[hlthe2b]

63. I hope you didn't hurt yourself

with that incredible contortion.. Good heavens...:eyes:

[last_texas_dem]

64. Hmm... well, if judging someone's statement by considering it in its entirety,

as opposed to selectively editing it in order to portray it as racist, is considered to be committing an "incredible contortion," then I suppose I'm a contortionist. That makes a lot of sense... :eyes: (backatcha)

[hlthe2b]

65. I fail to follow how a time element differentiates

a comment on the elected President of the US referenced, "needs to get his ass down to Georgia" as appropriate or inappropriate...

But, hey, I'm sure you'll enlighten us...:eyes:

[last_texas_dem]

66. A statement that Obama, who happens to be black, "needs to get his ass to Georgia and keep it there"

out of context, and as you quoted, could possibly be interpreted as racist by someone who didn't know what the poster was referring to. As in, "Obama needs to get out and stay out of D. C. and go to Georgia, with its large black population", etc.

Saying that Obama "needs to get his ass to Georgia and keep it there for the next couple of weeks," as the OP stated, clearly references the Georgia Senate runoff and leaves no impression that the OP is saying that Obama needs to get out of D. C. and keep out.

In the above post you indicate that it's more the use of slang to refer to what a president should do that bothers you. I could understand having a problem with what the OP said if he had walked up to Obama and told him to "get his ass down to Georgia," but he simply posted the phrase on a message board. In general, I don't think most DUers are in the practice of placing politicians on pedestals as to how they reference them. Should Obama not be referred to in the same casual way that all other elected officials generally are on DU? And either way, I fail to see how using slang regarding Obama is "racist." Unless there is some proof that the OP would not use the same expression regarding, say, Bill Clinton or Al Gore, I'm not sure how saying that Barack Obama to "get his ass" to a state to do some campaigning implies racism on his part.

[hlthe2b]

67. You are clearly in the minority on that opinion...

If you scroll through the posts, the majority are appalled at this level of disrespect-- bordering on something worse-- in the OP.

[last_texas_dem]

69. If that's the case, I'm proud to be in the minority

I voted for Obama in the primary and general election, I admire much that I know about the guy, and am looking forward to his presidency. But when it comes right down to it, he's a politician, and I don't believe in putting politicians on pedestals. It annoyed the hell out of me when Repugs did it with "Dubya," and I'm not a fan of Democrats doing it regarding Obama, either. Anyone who has an ass is capable of getting that ass somewhere, and that includes the President-Elect.

[hlthe2b]

73. So where do you draw the line?

As you say, we all have asses, so we can all "get our asses somewhere." Barack is also mixed race and thus, technically, black. Will you defend the next post that asserts he should "get his black ass down to Georgia" (for two weeks, don't want to leave that out)...:eyes:

[last_texas_dem]

74. Deleted

ON EDIT: Not worth it. I'm not going to argue about things that haven't been said. This is pointless. And that emoticon is really annoying.

[liberalmuse]

10. Oh for the love of CHRIST.

People, stop this shit. Who knew DU had so many whining sychophants? Maybe some people should go on 'Smoking Gun' and read the shit stalkers send to their celebrity victims.

What are you doing to get Martin elected? President Obama has a transition to head.

[TroglodyteScholar]

70. You need to look up the word "sycophant" n/t

[Number23]

82. LOTD

Laugh of the Day

:)

[crispini]

11. Nope. He needs to start looking like a President. IMO, that doesn't include campaigning.

What have you -- or anyone else on DU -- done to help Martin, for that matter? You know you can phonebank from home for him -- made a few calls myself yesterday.

[Boojatta]

79. The reason that W didn't campaign for McCain ...

is that it wouldn't have helped McCain. There's nothing unpresidential about campaigning for someone.

[marmar]

12. Not overly pleased after TWO WEEKS?

Dios Mio! :crazy:

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[ProdigalJunkMail]

30. i live in the northern part of ATL region

and we have some trouble with racists here...but the point i hope people get is that there are racists everywhere and the tool that posted this seems to think that Georgia has some sort of monopoly...

sP

[hlthe2b]

32. Now, YOU are the one being offensive...

I took on the OP for being so damned disrespectful to our President Elect. But your post is even more over-the-top. As a Colorado resident, formerly very very red, and now, quite blue, I am more than willing to help our fellow Progressives in GA take on the status quo and get some rational representation there. It won't turn overnight, but it can happen. For the first time in my memory, a DEM Presidential candidate was actually in play this year and we can get Martin elected with effort.

That said, I think the help may need to be from all the myriad of Dem big hitters and less directly from Obama..

But, you, Janethussein need an attitude adjustment--big time.

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[Sequoia]

53. That's what General Sherman said

when he was marching through. Some of the people told him they never wanted the war, etc. and he said, too late now, you're all going to pay dearly. And dearly they did too...all the was to the sea.

[EstimatedProphet]

55. Yeah, and fuck them having a Dem senator!

Really! Fuck them having a senator or a government that can make the state more progressive! Fuck them having a chance of getting out from under the racists anyway!

[breadandwine]

81. I'm with you, EstimatedProphet. Like, PHOOEY on Georgia sending a Dem to the Senate!

Phooey, phooey, phooey!

In fact, PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY!

The Senate's all butterfingers ANYWAY, so who needs a Democratic Senate!

Who needs a Democratic filibuster-proof Senate!

If you've seen one Democrat you've seen 'em all!!!

PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY! PHOOEY!

America NEEDS 40 Republicans in the Senate to keep America from going atheist Marxist!

And Muslim!!!

Cuz everybody knows atheists are Muslims!!!

Have you ever considered CHAMBLISS' feelings??? Have you ever considered what HE was going through? Chambliss has needs!!! He has to put food on his family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In fact, phooey, Louey and ------ Dewey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LiberalFighter]

15. There was a similar situation when Clinton was first elected.

He campaigned for the candidate and suffered politically because the candidate he supported lost.

[Truth Teller]

16. He's kind of busy these days, you know?

Not to mention how it would look if he did nothing but camapign.

[Mike Daniels]

17. And if Martin loses (which he likely will) Obama enters the White House with his influence damaged

Hell, if he can't persuade people in Georgia to vote for Martin why would he be able to persuade people who until 3 weeks ago were his equals in the Congress.

[Dogtown]

18. Maybe you should have run for office

Then you'd get to decide....

[hlthe2b]

20. I'm sure...

the OP will get "his ass" right on that....:eyes:

[Dogtown]

24. Yep

Divisive bullshit.

[lame54]

27. The Bullshit is yours...

We're still fighting here.

We are from GA and would love to see Chambliss out and have some representation in this administration

Ga may not have gone for Obama, but it was not from lack of effort from his countless Georgian volunteers - Ga registered more new voters than any other state

Now Chambliss wants to put an end to early voting - which would keep us red forever

[hlthe2b]

33. You need to back up and see that most of us posting support

you and what you are trying to do in Georgia. See my upstream posts.

What we don't appreciate is the OP's very divisive and disrespectful tone towards our President Elect. We expect that from RW mouth-breathers and racists--not from our own.

[Dogtown]

59. I've been living in GA for 20 years

And hate SC for what he did to Max Cleland, and also for his politics.



But we don't get to elect a man to office and rag him before his feet hit the ground. He's got other messes to attend to as well as Georgia's.

Maybe instead of dissing our President Elect *you* could find a little more time to do something constructive about defeating Chambliss.

[unapatriciated]

71. since when is asking for help "dissing" Obama?

Lame 54 did not do this, again he is accused of something he did not do.
Both he and I have been working our butts, not only with the Obama campaign but continue to do so with Martin.
Please read the whole thread before you jump on the band wagon and assume something he did not say.
Yes the Op could have worded his plea for help better but lame54 is not the op.

[last_texas_dem]

61. If the OP ran for office he'd get to decide whether or not Obama campaigns in GA?

[lame54]

19. The OP makes a damn good argument...

although i don't quite agree with the amount of time proposed - the general idea that his reason for picking Lieberman :puke: to keep a senate vote should be matched with a real effort to get Martin a senate seat.

I guarantee Martin would be far more supportive and reliable than Droopy Dog

[hlthe2b]

22. He's sent campaign team members there, the Big DAWG is there

he's recorded radio ads for Martin and other big hitters (including Gore) from the party are down there....

Obama is focusing on exactly what he should be-- getting his team together so they hit the ground running and keeping tabs on the current administration to try to limit the harm they can do in the next several weeks.

Geebus, people...:eyes:

[lame54]

25. Geebus is right...

Any disagreeing with the Obama team is met with - shut up - blind faith is the only way

Congratulations on winning CO

But were stuck here in GA and would like some representation in this administration

He can spare a day or two - a Martin win would help him "hit the ground running"

and if Chambliss wins anyway? - yes, it's a risk. - if he's not willing to take a risk - he won't accomplish much anyway

[hlthe2b]

31. I used to live in GA and have donated to Martin... I also have

contacted all my former friends, colleagues, and relatives to hound them into volunteering for Martin during the run-off...You are getting support from many many sources... Caling our President Elect out in such a disrespectful way, as though he were nothing more than the OP's "House N>>>er" elected to do his bidding is damned offensive.

[lame54]

35. it's not a re-count...

people still have to show up at the polls

and I was not disrespectful

[hlthe2b]

36. Where, pray tell, did I say anything about you being disrepectful?

I said clearly the OP was being so. I made a typo about recount; it is, of course a run-off.

[lame54]

37. "...volunteering for Martin during the recount..."

and you implied I was the disrespectful one -"Caling our President Elect out in such a disrespectful way, as though he were nothing more than the OP's "House N>>>er" elected to do his bidding is damned offensive. "
the OP is the 3nd person in this sentence. I am the implied 2nd person.

I did read it - and caught it before your impetuous reply, re-read and edit.

[hlthe2b]

38. Ok... take that shitty chip on your shoulder and throw it around...

I'm sure that will have many more trying to help support your efforts in Georgia... '

YOu know, you just might want to accept help and not slap it back in their faces. :eyes:

[lame54]

39. If we lose - you lose

funny how you missed that you accused me of doing exactly what you did - replying w/o reading and clearly understanding my post

[hlthe2b]

40. And, I corrected my error...

--admitted and corrected....

Your fight is not with me... Try upstream with the person who is not only NOT spending time and money on your run-off, but is posting that in their mind, "fuck Georgia."

[lame54]

43. yes you corrected it...

but not before I read it and was insulted by it

you can't put that down the memory hole

I won't wait for an apology

[hlthe2b]

47. In that case...

please DO hold your breath...:eyes:

[kick-ass-bob]

52. You were insulted by that? All I have to say is:

LOL.

BTW - I think Obama should rid the world of oil consumption, defuse all terrorists, right all the social wrongs, and then walk on water.

All by Tuesday. Otherwise, he is a waste of time. :eyes:

[unapatriciated]

57. He accused lame54 of calling President -Elect Obama out of his name...

and yes that is not only insulting but changes and inflames the discussion. You further insult by making light of our real concerns regarding this senate race and insinuate words that were never said.

"BTW - I think Obama should rid the world of oil consumption, defuse all terrorists, right all the social wrongs, and then walk on water.
All by Tuesday. Otherwise, he is a waste of time. :eyes:"

We worked hard to get Obama elected (phone banked not just in Ga and on my own dime) and are asking for his help, I don't see anything wrong with that.
We will continue to work hard until December 2 to get Martin elected and will appreciate any help we get, hopefully we will win.

Your post is just another case of Shut Up, if you have a different view point. Thank God President-Elect Obama does not have the same sentiments.

[hlthe2b]

72. "He" is not a "he" but that is just the first ...

of your seeming lack of reading comprehension. I commented on Lame54's defending of the OP's offensive and disrespectful language. If you bothered to read any of my posts you would see you are biting off your nose to spite your face. I am one of the few on this thread actually working (and providing $$) to support your efforts. But, go ahead and annoy everyone trying to help you. Be disrespectful, if you choose,to the PE we all worked so hard to elect and thereby offend many more DUers who might have been fired up to help you. By all means...

[unapatriciated]

78. sorry if I used the wrong title.....

I did read all of your post and I saw this one before you edited.....

"Caling our President Elect out in such a disrespectful way, as though he were nothing more than the OP's "House N>>>er" elected to do his bidding is damned offensive. "

That statement was directed at Lame54 not the Op.

Lame 54 did not defend the OP's just agreed that Obama should come to GA. In fact he disagreed with the amount of time needed.
Now you are calling me disrespectful show me where I was disrespectful to Obama.
Why can't you just admit you may have been wrong in making such a inflammatory racially charged statement.

It is laughable to believe that anyone on DU would be less inclined to help get Martin elected because of a post on this board.
I think most of us are a little more adult than that.

[hlthe2b]

83. ..

You seem to now be joining the "lame one" in supporting, or at least defending the offensive statement of the Original Poster, (OP). As you have seen, few on this thread support such disdainful attitudes towards PE Obama and it is thus the OP (and perhaps you as well), who owe DUers an immense apology. You do not tell the first African American President--MY President Elect-- to "get his ass down to GA to help you." That is, unless it is these people you are trying to appeal to:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7915664

I hope Martin prevails for all the respectful liberal progressives in Georgia and elsewhere who deserve effective representation under this new administration. I know of many and my continued support is for THEM. Welcome to ignore. I encourage you to do the same.

[unapatriciated]

84. since I don't believe in Ignore....

it will be one-sided. You continue to accuse lame54 and now me of being disrespectful Of Obama yet you can not show a single post of mine or his to prove your assertion.
There is a difference in supporting the idea of Obama Coming to Georgia and the way the OP framed his appeal. You can't seem to grasp that concept.
So by all means continue with your accusations and character assassination of someone you do not know.
btw in case you missed reading where I posted that lame54 and I both campaigned for Obama by registering voters, phone banking, and driving voters to the polls.....
get a clue we did this together as husband and wife.


Your link and comment was another vile assumption of your own insecurities regarding race.
"unless it is these people you are trying to appeal to:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph..."

Take a good look at the pic in my sig line or maybe I should post pics of my grandchildren and children again.

[Bake]

44. Geebus is right!

The man is not even in office yet! It's not "blind faith," it's "wait and see, and cut him some slack until then."

As for Georgia, although Chambliss didn't get a majority to avoid a run-off, he had a healthy lead over Martin. I seriously doubt he's going to lose that lead, especially given that there is no presidential race onthe ballot this time to draw people to the polls. it would be a stupid risk for President-Elect Obama to take.

Bake

[lame54]

46. What risk is everybody talking about...

He's not gonna get killed coming to GA

and it's foolish to write off this election when there is a chance and there is a lot riding on it

[Bake]

48. The risk is to his political influence.

Suppose he goes to GA to campaign for Martin, and Martin loses anyway. Obama's influence has been damaged before he's even taken office.

Bake

[lame54]

49. if Obama's not willing to take risks...

he is not going to be very effective

allowing Lieberman to remain in his Homeland Security seat is far more risky than stumping for a seat he needs

He can survive a loss just fine

A Chambliss win is going to harder to deal with in the long run

[Bake]

51. A smart person doesn't take stupid risks.

Bake

[lame54]

54. it's not stupid...

it's worthwhile

[MineralMan]

21. He should do what?

I'm sorry, but telling the President-elect of the United States of America that he should "get his ass" anywhere is pretty disgusting.

[hlthe2b]

23. my point upstream... he barely left out the "boy!"

preface to the comment...:eyes:

[MineralMan]

28. I was trying to be polite...

but you're right.

[bigtree]

41. Obama: 'Elections aren't over'

"The elections aren't over," Obama, himself, says in a radio ad starting to air today across Georgia on behalf of Democrat Jim Martin, who faces Republican incumbent Saxby Chambliss in a Dec. 2 runoff.

"I want to urge you to turn out one more time and help elect Jim Martin to the United States Senate," continues Obama, who has also dispatched hundreds of his staffers and canvassers. "Jim Martin's a man of his word, and I know he'll do everything he can in the Senate to help me change Washington."

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/11/obama_elections.html

[lame54]

45. Great ad...

but a public appearance would be a great boost

I don't believe he can't work one in

and I believe this is every bit as important as anything he is doing in Washington

[CitizenPatriot]

50. I am saddened and rather put off

by the attitudes here lately.

Our President deserves our respect. Giving respect to someone who earned it (by running a brilliant campaign) can not be called "blind faith". Talk about sloppy argument.

I am in Georgia, and I understand the deep desire we have here for change. There is a lot at stake here. I have worked tirelessly for Obama and am on my way to go get Martin calling sheets. I have just talked to several people who are VERY aware of the importance of the run-off for our PE's agenda. All we can do is TRY.

The idea that a poster can so quickly dismiss GA as a bunch of racists is short-sighted and poking into a wound that those of us who are working hard to change things can't help but respond to. Yes, there is some terrible racism here. No, this isn't the only place in America where you see racism. And while there is racism here, there are also hundreds of thousands of people here who WANT change, who are not racist, who don't see color. Those of us who see our goal and are working for it need the support of our fellow DUers, not to be written-off as hopeless.

Obama had people here. Why is that important? Because he didn't give up. He reached hundreds of thousands here. It may not have won him the race in GA (though you realize we have Diebold machines and a terrible SOS who violated court order not to purge voters, so the truth of the election is unclear to me at this point), but it set fire to a great movement FORWARD.

President Obama ran a flawless campaign. Having worked as a lowly volunteer, I saw the tip of the iceberg in what can only be described as a brilliant campaign. One of great integrity and honor. I have NO reason to believe that he has changed since the election. Many times his moves were doubted and questioned, but proved later to be a great part of his getting elected. I'm not advocating blind allegiance, but rather a logical approach and less hysteria. He was smart then, he's smart now.

Watch, have the patience to see how it comes together, and if you really want to stretch from the past 8 years, you could go so far as to have a little faith based on his past performance. Really. We just may have a president who does not require our back-seat driving. I know that's a huge change....

but we asked for change, and hot damn, I think we got it.

P.S. And don't ever tell our President Elect to get his ass anywhere and think you aren't going to get a well-deserved talking-to. That's our President. We worked ceaselessly to elect him and I'll be damned if I'm going to sit idly by while he is attacked by his own before he is even in office.

[unapatriciated]

58. both lame54 and I volunteered for Obama in Georgia....

when he visited the Atlanta area we saw a huge boost in new volunteers and a short stop over in this area might give Martin the boost he needs to keep those same volunteers involved.
Many of those volunteers think it is over and are not giving time to Martin's campaign. I'm glad to see you are still involved. Lame54 and I are not attacking him we are just asking for help.
The Op should have chosen different words but we are still in play and can use all the help we can get.
Some of the posters have insinuated some very nasty sentiments to the rest of us who are asking for help, because of one sentence in the Op.

[CitizenPatriot]

60. I get your point -- we could use the help here

For a variety of reasons, though, I am glad Obama isn't here. His presence here could actually motivate the Republicans/racists to turn out in much larger numbers. They are already running scare tactic ads to stop the Obama onslaught.

Many of the Obama volunteers I worked with are still working for Martin. I had a conversation today with someone I thought might not turn out for the run-off, but was pleased that he was well aware of the early voting, etc. and how important it was.

I take no issue with you or your desire for help here; god knows we need some help. As Al Pacino said so well, "I'm in the dark here!" and that's how it feels to be in a red state. I just see the help needed as being Clinton and Carter more than Obama. Who knows- that's just my take on things given what I know, but I don't pretend to be a political strategist, so I could be way off.

Hang in there and just know that we 're not alone. There's a LOT of people in GA working their butts' off for this run-off.

[leeroysphitz]

56. Use your heads people. We NEED that 60. We can't hope to get anything substantive done without it. n

[TheKentuckian]

68. A stump appearence to motivate folks would be a boost I'm sure

The closer to the poll day the better. I don't think a few hours is too high of a price to pay for possibly getting another Senator.

[goforit]

75. No.....I want to see what Bill Clinton is really worth.

[ecstatic]

77. Lieberman disrespected Obama, but so have you with your OP title

"Obama needs to get his ass down to Georgia" :eyes:

Did you ever consider that maybe visiting this racist red state would do more harm than good? Obviously our election was either stolen or even black turnout wasn't enough to give Obama this state. So why should he come now?

I would love to see him, but that's not the point. Thanks for your concern, btw.