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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:06 AM
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Putting 700 Billion in context...
I was watching a trailer for a documentary (on "The Church of Stop-Shopping" if you're interested) and one of the graphics mentioned that US consumers spend $690 billion dollars during the holiday season...

So, in other words, these banks are getting a bailout equal to the entire holiday season consumer expenditure in the US whenever Paulson thinks its necessary. How many entire-US-holiday-economies are there in the tax coffers?
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:12 AM
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1. You'll have to ask China about the tax coffers thing
This money should have gone to keep people in their homes and to provide healthcare.
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Joe the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:12 AM
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2. I guess one way you could look at it is......
the 700 billion was Paulsons early Christmas gift to his buddies on Wall Street. The scum bag.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 02:14 AM
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3. Or one year's defense budget, excluding wars
Isn't avoiding 25% unemployment worth one year's defense budget?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 03:28 AM
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4. Or: it's more than 1 year's Social Security payments to 50 million people.
Edited on Fri Nov-21-08 03:30 AM by Hannah Bell
also - we've given out about 2 trillion to the financiers, someone said. That's the entire Social Security Trust Fund.
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 06:19 AM
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9. "the entire Social Security Trust Fund'
DING! That's what they wanted. Despite decades of trying they couldn't get it directly, but now...
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 03:33 AM
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5. Or another way.
Imagine handing a freshly minted million dollar bill to every person in San Francisco or Seattle. Yes, that's roughly correct . . . I strongly feel the "cure" here will prove worse than the disease.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 04:17 AM
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6. If it had saved pension funds and 401(K) investments, or even prevented foreclosures,
no one would mind. But the whole bail-out of the banks has been a waste of tax money. Paulson appears to be a fraud. Maybe it's too soon to tell, but it seems he had no strategy, no plan for using the money that was entrusted to him.

Paulson is a Bush yes-man. He is nothing more. The bail-out is a gift to Bush's friends and supporters. I doubt that it was ever considered as a way of helping the American people.

Again, what criminals. What frauds.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 06:48 AM
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11. sadly paulson not the only fraid-A whole lot of democrats went along knowingly
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 04:30 AM
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7. Hmmm,
do those "holiday expenditures" cover the basics (rent, food, gasoline, etc) in addition to the shopping for presents?

Because $700 B is $7,000 for 100,000,000 families (there are only about 310,000,000 people living here).

I know some people spend a lot every Christmas, but I doubt the average family budget for Christmas shopping is anywhere near $7,000.
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JJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 04:46 AM
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8. Over $6,000 per US household
Imagine what could have been accomplished if that $700,000,000,000 had been distributed directly to the citizens.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 06:36 AM
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10. Instant recovery/jump start. I'll bet the big 3 would have sold a bunch
of cars too.

But that smacks of SOCIALISM! Thank Dog we don't cotton to any of that there commie crap around here.

It's far better to give it to giant banks to finance their buying up little banks, cause as we all know the fewer the number of players in any industry, the better and cheaper their products and services become.


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