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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 07:41 AM
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Say it isn't so, Hillary!
Last week, this made me hopeful that my Senator would do the right thing

But now I see this.
Politics aside, he was totally incompetent as Homeland Security chair. I will be writing to let her know what I think.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 07:43 AM
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1. Did you forget how quickly Bill showed up after Lamont
was beating LIEberman in Connecticut. No surprise here.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 07:47 AM
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2. Just following Obama's orders.
He's the one making the deals.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 07:56 AM
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3. Obama said nothing about the chairmanship
He only said he didn't have a problem with Lieberman staying in the Dem caucus.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 07:59 AM
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4. Come on.
Do you really think this deal with Lieberman wasn't Obama's?

The Dems went 180 degrees from their position after he got involved.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 08:30 AM
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12. You going to be making assumptions over Obama's entire presidency?
Tell us know so I can ignore you.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 08:32 AM
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13. Yes, so don't waste any time on the ignore.
:eyes:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 09:48 AM
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17. SHE wasn't. Clintons have always been onthe same page as Lieberman. Durbin and Kerry were Obama's
surrogates on Lieberman - and THEY loathe Lieberman completely, so Obama must have gotten something from McCain, Graham and Lieberman in return. It BETTER be something BIG.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 08:00 AM
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5. I think we have to do some soul searching here.
Why did it take so long for Hill to conceded. Remember that she missed her own news conference on this issue. Remember how angry Bill was at the outcome. Though some here would say that Bill campaigned tirelessly for Obama I would beg to differ. He never acknowledged that Obama was capable of leading. Go figure. Hey, there is something not right about this. They had eight years and then Hill lost fair and square. How long will they stay at the front of our politics? If she does not end up SOS what will the next distraction be? Why are these times of transition hijacked by....more of the same?
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 08:05 AM
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6. As my Senator, she is accountable to me.
And I want answers from her.
I would hope that everyone else who has doubts about how their Senators voted will let them know their feelings.
It's so easy to forget that THEY work for US rather than the other way around.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 08:11 AM
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9. As your senator she works for me too.
The interesting point is that if I call her office she says that she works for you and won't listen to my ideas. That is what is wrong with many politicians. They don't want to be held accountable for how their bad decisions effect the entire nation. On many important votes I will call all senators and it is amazing how many pretty much disconnect you if you don't live in the proper zip code. My own Senator Voinovich won't listen to anything that a Dem would suggest. You can't even get a decent reply. Go figure.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 10:24 AM
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22. Yes. They should be accountable to all of us.
But I also find it extremely disappointing when my own Senators and Congressman don't respond to my calls or emails.
We are supposed to be their "bosses".
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Candie Date Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 08:06 AM
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7. Did you ever consider
posting facts instead?
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 08:28 AM
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11. Welcome to Du.
The fact is that she did stay sequestered for days before conceding. Watch the video yourself and you will see Bill's anger and his refusal to admit that Obama is capable. Weird response from you but have a good time at DU.
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Candie Date Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 09:06 AM
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14. Now you're commenting about the week before she conceded
and the immediate aftermath of that concession.

The fact is that at the convention and after -- Bill DID say glowing things about Obama, and DID say favorable things about him as a leader.

This is just more bizarre Clinton hating bullshit.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 09:24 AM
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15. You need to review the tapes.
That's where you will find your facts. I guess, unless somebody dressed up like Bill and Hill and hey, it could happen.
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Candie Date Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 09:31 AM
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16. Guess you missed the Convention
I think Bill's speech might be on "the youtubes".

Frankly, I think you're far too transparent.

Bill and ESPECIALLY Hillary were exemplary in campaigning for Obama.

Far better than anyone else, save Obama himself.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 09:52 AM
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18. Guess you missed post season! n/t
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Candie Date Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 10:12 AM
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20. Is that a sports reference?
I don't get it.

It's a waste of my time to speak with you any longer, as you're obviously a rabid Clinton-Hater.

I choose to support my President Elect's trust in the Clintons.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 09:54 AM
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19. Hello.
Welcome to DU! :hi:
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Candie Date Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 10:13 AM
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21. Thanks!
:toast:
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 08:10 AM
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8. Hillary Clinton Fantasy #339
Can't the political world try sex fantasies for a while instead?

For example, Rick Santorum. He thinks about man-on-dog sex too often to fantasize about HRC. And he's a better man dog for it!

--p!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-08 08:25 AM
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10. So, you have no facts and no actual roll call of a secret ballot?
Stop back when you have some facts.
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