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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:46 PM Original message |
Someone today told me that UAW workers make $80 an hour |
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Blue Diadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. Here, I swiped this link from SmileyRose's post. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. That's a pretty good wage, but a huge amount less than $80/hour |
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Blue Diadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. That higher figure is adding all the benefits into it, it was down further at the link. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Yeah |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Hahahahaha. Yeah. Imagine that. |
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Blue Diadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Are you self employed? |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 03:41 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Yes. I realize it's an unfair comparison, but I've had plenty of jobs. |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
33. Ooops |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #22 |
41. We got/get paid sick days and 4 weeks vacation |
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Blue Diadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Vacation weeks are gradually obtained though aren't they? |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Vacation increased as years of service increased |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. What's a skilled-trades worker? They make a lot of money! |
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Blue Diadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. It's a decent wage. Skilled trades are the tool and die, die repair, |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #15 |
32. Ever hired a plumber or taken your car to a mechanic? |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Not all of that actually goes to the plumber or mechanic |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #34 |
49. Plus their entire 40 hour work week is not necessarily billable time. |
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Oceansaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. i'm a UAW retiree...when folks say them |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. That isn't fair because it doesn't allow for parallel comparisons |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. and how many years did it take you to get to that wage? |
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Oceansaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. started out at $4.47 an hour in 1974... |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #9 |
24. I started out as a registered nurse |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. ... and a CEO making $2M a year makes $1000 an hour |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. disregard |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. skilled-trades worker at GM earned $32.32 per hour |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. The average GM worker earned $32.32 per hour |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:45 AM Original message |
I made 28.XX when I retired in 06 |
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Sinti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
10. If it were true that's only about $165,000 a year - not chump change |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I agree with that |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. $70 an hour for Caterpillar repair!? |
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Sinti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 01:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. That's what the guy who manages them told me n/t |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
16. Well, evidently Joe the Plumber makes $250,000 a year, what that per/hr.? |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 07:51 AM Response to Reply #16 |
31. somewhere around $120 an hour |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
19. Somebody told me that black folks are all on welfare and drive pink Cadillacs. |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Who would that have been Ronnie Raygun? Were you |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Could've been. They all look alike to me. |
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BlueCollar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
25. Frank Lorenzo claimed similar costs per hour for Eastern Airlines workers |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 03:28 AM Response to Original message |
27. ugh...sad to see that old meme is still kicking around |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
29. It's $73 an hour, according to one source, but that is total hourly costs. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. See My Post, TO |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
30. hey, i make $200 an hour |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
35. The Fully Absorbed Cost Is Reported At $73/Hour |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. The way I heard it is that it was their take-home salary |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Well, What You Heard Is, Indeed, Completely False |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Yes, that was my initial impression |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I Saw That |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. I agree. It's a purposely enlarged number to create a perception that is untrue. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Yep. Same Page |
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Blue Diadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #35 |
48. It appears they may even be adding benefit costs of retirees who are no longer on the payroll. |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
42. What does Lieberman make an hour for selling us out? |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
43. They always count all the associated costs as if it were take home pay. |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
50. Right wing talking point, trying to destroy the union. |
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