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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 04:39 PM
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Anyone else notice that both Foley and Haggard are talking today?
Edited on Wed Nov-12-08 04:41 PM by helderheid

Exclusive: Ted Haggard Breaks His Silence
Haggard Claims He Had Sexual Experience With Man at 7 Years Old
By DAN HARRIS and LEE FERRAN

Nov. 12, 2008 —

Ted Haggard, the disgraced former evangelical leader, recently broke his silence on the second anniversary of the scandal that brought him down.

He gave a pair of sermons at a small church in Illinois where the pastor is an old friend of his.

"The first thing I want you to know is I sinned," Haggard began.

Haggard's comments were quite revealing. They were recorded on audiotape and put on the Internet at www.tedhaggard.com.

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http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6235564&page=1

Foley blames his victims

More than two years after his fall from grace, former Rep. Mark Foley finally granted an interview to address the scandal that led to his resignation. Foley sent graphic text messages and e-mails to 16- and 17-year-old congressional pages, but no criminal charges were ever filed.

He’s more defensive than apologetic or contrite in the interview.

"There was never anywhere in those conversations where someone said, 'Stop,' or 'I'm not enjoying this,' or 'This is inappropriate,'” Foley said. Foley tries to minimize the significance of what he did, asserting that these were 17-year-olds, just months from being men. That, of course, ignores the fact that at least one object of his affection was 16. \

In an e-mail to the youth, Foley asked for his photograph. ABC News reported that the youth told others the message “freaked me out” and was “sick, sick, sick.” In text messages to pages, Foley repeatedly asked a 17-year-old about masturbation and the size of the youth’s penis, according to a transcript of the exchange. In one 2003 exchange, Foley said he delayed voting on the floor of the House to engage in online sex with one of the youths, the transcript shows. And to make matters worse, he refused to take responsibility for his actions, instead blaming alcohol or alleged sexual abuse for his behavior.

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http://www.washingtonblade.com/blog/index.cfm?blog_id=22369

ETA: I'm not equating pedophilia with closet homosexuality - just a couple hypocrites who decided today was the day to talk about their "troubled pasts".
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 04:55 PM
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1. All the repug dirtbags are trying to rehab
themselves, trying to get sympathy.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 04:58 PM
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2. "At least we didn't have diaper sex with hookers, like other Republicons." - FolHagg
"We are morally superior Wide Stance Republicons. Smirk."

- FolHagg
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:08 PM
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3. What the fuck is wrong with Foley? He's still not taking responsibility!
If the boys were "only months away from being MEN", then that means that at the time THEY WERE STILL BOYS. AS IN JUVENILES. As in, you are a dirty, sick old man and any sexual conversations/interactions you had with the JUVENILES is WRONG both morally and legally.

Why would he do this interview? Why wouldn't he just thank his lucky stars he's not in jail and keep his mouth shut? And if he DID decide to do an interview, wouldn't apologizing PROFUSELY be the best course of action? Justifying that behavior shows he learned NOTHING.

It tells me the fucker needs a little jail time to think about things. Why wasn't he prosecuted? He had to have violated some statute... contributing to the delinquency of a minor? Something?

Jesus Christ. What a fucking asshole.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:10 PM
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4. Foley is going to be a repeat offender and next time it won't just be emails and im's
he has no sense of remorse because he doesn't think he did anything wrong. Kid toucher is the next step for him.
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:13 PM
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5. Well chances are there have been other incidents already.
Yes, we found out about the boys on Capitol Hill, but for every incident that gets reported there are many more that go unreported. For him to be as brazen as he was about it, I'm SURE this wasn't the first instance of this behavior. And yes, it will escalate to physical contact, if it hasn't already. It practically inevitable, especially given his attitude.

I'm appalled he wasn't prosecuted for something.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:15 PM
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6. I love how it's everyone else's fault....n/t
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:15 PM
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7. It's called "Bring out your dead..."
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:19 PM
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8. LMAO!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:12 PM
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9. Haggard, Foley, Vitter, Craig, Bakker, Swaggert, Dobson, Robertson, Angley,
Limbaugh, Hannity, ORally, Savage/Weiner, Ann Coulter, Buchanan, Gannon, Coleman, etc

All these Pubs are sickos....They Lie Cheat Steal
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:19 PM
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10. They both need to go back under the rocks they crawled out from under.
Edited on Wed Nov-12-08 06:20 PM by TheGoldenRule
:puke:

p.s. Haggards website says it's under construction. :wtf:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:47 PM
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12. saw that!
:shrug:
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:32 PM
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11. yes. i wonder what real news is being hidden by the sex stories.
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