Fundies: Conservative expression on campuses "in peril"

[marmar]

:eyes: Right-wing drama queens



from the Fundie AP, the American Family Assn.'s OneNewsNow:



Conservative expression on campuses in peril
Pete Chagnon - OneNewsNow - 11/10/2008 7:00:00 AM


A conservative grassroots organizer says with the Left making big gains in the November elections, things could get worse for conservative college students across the U.S.

The Leadership Institute, located in Washington, DC, helps train students who wish to start grassroots conservative groups on their college campuses. Spokesperson Ian Ivey says with the amount of leftist ideology already prevalent on colleges and universities, it is hard to imagine that things could get worse for conservative students. But he says it could happen once liberals take control in 2009.

"Especially in the degree to which their rights to free speech and self-expression are either protected or attacked and undermined," says Ivey. "So right now what we see is student government groups, administrators, (and) faculty all feel relatively free to attack conservatives for simply expressing conservative ideas and philosophy on campus.

"I think that's going to continue and become significantly worse over the next four years."

Although Ivey says it probably will not translate into expulsion of all conservative students, he does warn that liberal educators and students could get an emboldened sense of entitlement to squash all opposing ideas.

Ivey also notes that conservative broadcasters could see the revival of the so-called "Fairness Doctrine," a policy that could force conservative broadcasters to carry an alternate liberal view on their programs.


http://www.onenewsnow.com/Education/Default.aspx?id=314254 (if Rick-rolled, the story's in the OneNewsNow section of www.afa.net )

[New Dawn]

1. Right-wingers feel oppressed whenever their professors say something they disagree with.

[fascisthunter]

6. head cases usually do when anyone disagrees with them

Reich wingers are consistant there.

[snake in the grass]

23. "with the amount of leftist ideology already prevalent on colleges and universities"

That's because, as a general rule, the more education you receive, the more liberal you will tend to be. I think that's how I came to my liberal identity in my late teens. I have always detested the arguments of regressives, which simply never made any sense.

While I don't believe they are truly in peril (that is just part of their victim complex) I do hope that their numbers become fewer. We have too many problems to worry about their nonsense.

[Alcibiades]

25. Clearly not someone

Who has visited the economics dept of a major university lately.

[snake in the grass]

26. Guilty as charged.

I'm still in Europe anyway, but will be moving to L.A. soon. I'm a trained physician but I want to change my profession so I'll be very busy in the biology dept. at UCLA. Probably won't meet many regressive mutants there, but that's fine by me.

[Alcibiades]

34. I didn't mean you

I meant this Ian Ivey person who seems to feel he understands the entire intellectual spirit at American colleges and universities. I'm a political scientist, and I've known dozens of conservative academics. And yet even the most conservative academics I have met are unlike the folks running the conservative political movement: the difference between them, and modern political conservatives is that they, while opposing liberal ideas, have not become hostile to ideas in general.

I do doubt you will meet too many mutants at UCLA, unless you get lost in traffic and find yourself in Orange County.

[fascisthunter]

33. That is more true than something I would Just Believe out of Bias

I notice how uniformed and misinformed the right is...

[Mz Pip]

2. Oh, bullshit

You're students. Not victims.

[Whoa20]

3. good, I'm happy because we don't need

anymore conservatives

[Omnibus]

4. I agree.

We've had enough of them for a while. Maybe in 50 years we'll make more, but until then, naaah.

[fascisthunter]

5. Probably DIdn't Mind All Our Constitutional Rights being trampled upon...

while Bush was in office.

[jakefrep]

7. Cue the orchestra....

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[foxfeet]

12. Playing "Cry me a River?"

[Judi Lynn]

29. Please, use this very small violin!

In the immortal words of their own pResident, "Who cares what you think?

Poor, poor little conservative bully brats no longer have the run of the place. Now they're all martyrs. Poor, poor things.

[EmilyAnne]

8. "So right now what we see is student government groups, administrators, (and) faculty all feel

relatively free to attack conservatives for simply expressing conservative ideas and philosophy on campus."

So, liberals feel "free" to attack people who are "free" to attack liberals? What is the problem here?
Bizarre.

[PinkoDonkey]

9. They have the right to publish, speak out, and the like...but...

But not to say racist, sexist, homophobic things. These babies throw a fit whenever someone calls them out on being hateful bigots, whenever people try and stand up to them. Campus conservatives--and I've had to deal with a lot of them over the years--need to grow up, or go back home. Let kids in who will actually open their minds and learn something take their spots. :grr:

[RJ Connors]

10. These people just by their nature have to have something that

is a threat to them. No big thing although with a Dem in the WH they are going to be a lot more fun to scare. Dropping little lines like yeah I hear Dems are talking about banning the Bible.

[muntrv]

11. Well....you still have Bob Jones University.

[RJ Connors]

20. Yeah, there is where the real fundie intellectuals hang out or come

from. My childhood preacher is on the board of directors there.

[depakid]

13. These people utterly lack any sense of irony

One minute they're railing over their views being supressed- the next they're railing against the fairness doctrine for allowing opposing views on the air.

:crazy:

[msongs]

14. the young republicans have all signed up to serve in iraq? nt

[RedCappedBandit]

16. You give them FAR FAR FAR too much credit.

[RedCappedBandit]

15. Well, see, college is for smart people

so, logically, there are less conservative college students.


:D

[madrchsod]

17. right wing or left wing "talking points"

do not make it in a college or university setting. for either side to whine and cry about being "in peril" because either side is against them is rubbish. if one can defend ones belief logically/rationally then it`s not their loss it is their audience`s.

suck it up right wingers..maybe your students should think before they speak

[Ichingcarpenter]

18. I've debated those 'one news now' dumb asses on many issues

they won't debate and examine facts or evidence. I don't think you need to
go to their site folks.

[TankLV]

19. So bitotry and racism and homophobia are on the decline? GOOD!

[bluedawg12]

21. Call a waambulance

The Leadership Institute grooms young rw'ers and was in it's hey day during dumbya/Fatwell era.

The fairness doctrine revoked!
"a policy that could force conservative broadcasters to carry an alternate liberal view on their programs."

Ronnie Raygun is turning over in his crpyt - that was the basis of all the rw hate radio that emerged spewing cultural / political poison.

[norepubsin08]

22. Good I hope so

after these past 8 years and also the 12 years of Reagan and Bush I all conservative thought should be punished and all Repubicanism should be outlawed! Just look at the mess that their fucking ideology has left us in!

[ColbertWatcher]

24. BWAHAHAHA! *gasp* BWAHAHAHAHA! n/t

[Skittles]

27. *yawn*

these folk are fucking annoying

[Edweird]

28. They say that like it's a *bad* thing. I don't see the problem...

[SoCalDem]

30. College is for EXPANDING horizons for young people.. Sheeezzz-louise

If the precious little fundy-flowers want to only reinforce what the Bible-dun-tole-'em, them Liberty College is for them, or that wacky religious college in Oklahoma (I think it's in OK)..

Young minds need to learn about all kinds of things..not just what they already think they know..

[ProfessorGAC]

31. Absent In Any Of That Is The Answer To The Question: So?

There is not one iota of effort as to why campuses being less conservative is a bad thing. It is merely a unsubstantiated base assumption. They therefore have to make no effort to support it, because it's a fait accompli.

Intellectually dishonest, shallow, and unconvincing.

If conservative academicians want to espouse their philosophy, i've never been on any campus that would prohibit it. The problem is that most of the conservative academicians are the least valuable and competent faculty members.
The Professor

[GTurck]

32. Transference...

Seems that the young Republicans are already paranoid and transferring their modus operandi to the left. They have been taught to think in the extremes and so their beliefs have to be those of the other side. Main belief: Take no prisoners! Sad that they cannot conceive of a campus let alone a country where freedom of speech means just that; not I rant you listen and shut up.
I for one remember the time of the Fairness Doctrine and never thought it impinged on anyone's right to speak but it did prevent the sort of one sided rantings one hears on radio these days. It did such a good job of that that even fringe voices got a hearing. Imagine that!!

[SpiralHawk]

35. Wrong. More self-serving lies from the republicon homelanders

They tell so many lies about America and its institutions, one has to wonder why Republicons hate America.

[Bill McBlueState]

36. It's tough for students who think the earth is flat, too. n/t

[Realityhack]

37. Also there is a risk of Vampires disproportionately attacking conservative students n/t

[get the red out]

38. OMG! They might be informed!

They might be shown the error of their pitiful arguments! What to do! Is our society loosing all respect for lying sacks of shit!

[Bill McBlueState]

39. Ironically, conservatives want affirmative action for their ideas

They're whining that conservative ideas don't stand up in a Free Market™, so they want special treatment for their way of thinking.

[dkofos]

40. Fucking whiners