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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 07:27 AM
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The Final Abuse Of Power, The Planned Bush Self-Pardon
Edited on Sun Nov-09-08 07:40 AM by G_j
Recieved from "The Pen" The People's Email Network, what do you think?

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Impeach Bush Before He Pardons Himself

According to Seymour Hersh there is a conga line of insiders waiting
until January 20th to spill the beans on the gross criminality of the
Bush/Cheney administration. Waiting . . . because if they did it now
the two of them would be tarred and feathered on the way out the
door.

But we the people do not have to wait. We can and must demand the
immediate impeachment of both Bush and Cheney for what is already
known. At the very least the defiance of congressional subpoenas at
the behest of the White House is an open and shut case for
accountability now.

Impeach Now Action Page: http://www.usalone.com/impeach_now.php

Because as his final constitutional insult, his final spit in the
face to the American people and all rule of law, it is transparently
obvious that Bush is planning the most wholesale and wrongful pardon
of the worst political criminals in American history, his whole
criminal gang, INCLUDING himself.

And don't think that is not their precise plan. Please, what power
has Bush NOT abused? What heinous, self-serving, shameless and
dishonest act has he ever shied away from, when he was torturing and
eavesdropping and lying us into wars of corporate aggression. Does
anyone doubt that is what he is planning on doing?

And when you submit this action page, you will have one last chance
to get one of the "Impeach Both!!!" caps, which after January 20th
will no longer be available from us for love or for money.

Impeach Now Action Page: http://www.usalone.com/impeach_now.php

Will Congress now act? That is not the yardstick of the worth of our
activism. We speak out because we must speak out, whether we are
heeded or not. Let history record that we spoke out until the last
minute to the eternal shame of those who did not. Because when enough
of us speak out at once, the worst thing that can possibly happen is
that we are building the progressive base for the REAL change of the
future.

So Bush most certainly is planning on pardoning himself. And all the
right wing lock down ideologues in the corporate controlled media
will call it "healing". Let's all make nice with war criminals? Shall
we all make nice with the gang rape of our economy, our environment
and our Constitution? We think not.

And one more thing. You know that come January 20th the right wing
will start calling for the impeachment of our new president, over a
endless litany of the most ridiculous of trivial trifles. In fact it
has already started even though he has not even taken office. If they
are so hot on impeaching someone, let them speak out now, when it
truly is called for, or shut the hell up in 73 days.

Please take action NOW, so we can win all victories that are supposed
to be ours, and forward this alert as widely as possible.

If you would like to get alerts like these, you can do so at
http://www.usalone.com/in.htm


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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 07:34 AM
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1. Huh?
Because as his final constitutional insult, his final spit in the
face to the American people and all rule of law, it is transparently
obvious that Bush is planning the most wholesale and wrongful pardon
of the worst political criminals in American history, his whole
criminal gang, INCLUDING himself.


Are you saying Bush will pardon people not charged with any crimes?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 07:35 AM
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2. You can't be pardoned for a crime you haven't been convicted of.
Forget impeachment and go straight to war crimes after he's out of office.
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 07:43 AM
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3. Sure you can
Remember Nixon? Not even charged with a crime, but pardoned.

But Bush isn't going to pardon himself, write it down.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 09:34 AM
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9. well, he can try
but, international war crimes are what he will eventually be called upon to answer for.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 07:44 AM
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4. Yes, you can
Ford pardoned Nixon even though Nixon never was convicted of anything. The pardon shut down the investigation and planned impeachment vote.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 07:44 AM
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5. Gerald Ford gave Nixon a pre-emptive pardon.
And Poppy gave Casper Weinberger a pardon before hius trial over Iran-Contra.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 08:03 AM
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6. I would have loved to see all of those challenged in court.
Pardoned for what? A DUI the following year as well? If Bush pardons himself, I doubt it will be legitimate unless it is allowed to stand by inaction.
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 08:07 AM
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7. Pardons can't be challenged in court
The power is absolute. Not subject to review. Not subject to approval.

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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 08:11 AM
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8. Except a perdon makes them subject...
to a trial at an international war crimes tribunal; triggered if the home country cannot pursue justice. They are going to have to be very careful while traveling for the rest of their lives.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:04 PM
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11. Ford gave Nixon "...a full an unconditional pardon...
for any crimes he may have committed against the United States while President." So no, Nixon could not have used his pardon to escape accountability for what he did after he left office. But he could not have been prosecuted for any crimes he committed while serving as President.

Article II Sec. 2 of the Constitution states, in part, that the president "...shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment." So if we don't want Presidents to have the power to grant pre-emptive pardons, which has been affirmed by the Nixon precedent, our only recourse is a Constitutional ammendment.
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 09:57 AM
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10. "unindicted co-conspirator" was the phrase invented post-pardon iirc.
My hunch is Laura will move to a majestic home in Dallas and * will immediately disappear into Paraguay, having been named "CEO" of some bogus "business" enterprise funded by Rev & Mrs. Moon. And the rest of the sorryass lot will take their ill-gotten gains and scurry into obscure hidey-holes all over the planet.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 07:56 PM
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12. a crazy as it sounds
that may not be far off.
I have little doubt though, that some will be pursued for war crimes.
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