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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 07:52 AM Original message |
Why marriage? |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
1. you're not going to overturn marriage. |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
2. If I can call _my_ marital contract a marriage, I see NO reason why my GLBT friends |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Co-sign. It's simple equality of right. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. *shrug* |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:03 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. but then, wouldn't extending it to two men or two women |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I suppose |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. fair enough. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I've actually heard that one... |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. If my GLBT brothers and sisters want to be "married," I'll defer to them |
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Randypiper (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
6. To call it a union and not marriage |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
9. Separate but equal can never be equal |
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MikeE (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
36. I agree, but I have to say this |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
12. Since marriage has apparently come to mean |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:28 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. if I go the the justice of the peace for a fully secular ceremony, |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
13. First off |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. As I said, because I think marriage is a crock |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. This debate isn't about YOUR right to marry, or MY right to marry. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. But I don't care about anyone's "right" to marry |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Then don't get married. (nt) |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #15 |
38. You are getting to be a bore. |
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Glorfindel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
16. I honestly don't know...but I'm basically a hermit |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
17. Having talked to straights just before P8 on Tues. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. But, "marriage" is about second class citizenship of women to begin with |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I'll quit harping on you in a second. |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. You would REALLY eliminate marriage just because YOU have a dim view of it? |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. You are being willfully pretentious |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Awesome response. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
33. Well, I gave money to defeat 8 |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. You should attempt to be an honest broker |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. What an idiotic comment. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Marriage is hard for people to discuss without getting upset |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #37 |
47. I don't think marriage itself is a source of good or harm. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
32. The history of states was about discrimination and power |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #32 |
49. Well, yeah. |
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End Of The Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. I've encountered the same thing |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #25 |
43. Ask your straight 'liberal' friends if |
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End Of The Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Agree with the "lack of understanding" bit -- |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Then how about we call ours 'Lovebond' |
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End Of The Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. It gets you nowhere to dump everybody in the same boat. |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:03 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. My mom is weird like this. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:08 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. That's the other half of my confusion |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
48. I really don't know. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:08 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Easy: they want to be special and superior. They're supremacists. |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #31 |
44. Well that's certainly not true in the case of my mom. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
28. Here are some specific reasons: |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:11 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Best answer yet. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:12 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. 4) and 5) are good points on why the name matters, even if other rights are equalised |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #28 |
39. The big problem is we have a society averse to homosexuals |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #39 |
52. To balance my harsh ways |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
40. I'm not a fan of marriage either... |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
42. Why not? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #42 |
53. That was the second half of my quesetion |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
45. I was thinking about this yesterday and I applied the concept of what marriage means |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
46. Only marriage provides full legal equality. |
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Corkey Mineola (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
51. Good Question... As a Gay Man... |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
55. Because separate is not equal |
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