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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 10:38 AM
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Attention right wing idiots, the country you despise has had a right wing government for years.
That appears correct. The country you despise, namely France formerly Gaul, has had a right wing government for years. Conservatives have run France for years. They do not presently have a liberal government and not had so for years.

So you Republican idiots loathe your own political brethren in France.
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 10:47 AM
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1. Please do not confuse RW'ers w/facts - it causes them to have to think.
Mainly of how to develop some sort of strawman arguement or distraction to dimish the importance of those darn facts and truths.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 10:48 AM
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2. The problem that most people have is that they do not
understand the difference between a Liberal or Conservative. A Conservative likes the status quo and does not want to change. This defines the French people. A conservative person is not good or bad, it is just their nature.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 11:20 AM
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4. That is perhaps the difference between a traditional conservative and a true right-winger
A traditional conservative, as exemplified by pre-Thatcher British Tories and most Europaean mainstream conservatives, is suspicious of change. Extreme conservatives don't want change at all; moderate conservatives want it to be slow and gradual.

By contrast, right-wingers do want change and they want it NOW. They don't just want to maintain the status quo; they want to actively enhance social and economic inequalities, and to pursue 'bold' foreign policies that are expansionist, not just defensive, in nature. When politicians actively advocate 'making tough decisions' and 'thinking the unthinkable' as virtues, they are not 'conservatives'; they are right-wing radicals.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 11:11 AM
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3. To be fair, French Conservatives are not, for the most part, like current American Republicans
With some exceptions (notably Berlusconi in Italy), mainstream Europaean Conservatives tend to be more like moderate Democrats than Bushite Republicans. France does have a worrying far-right party - LePen's National Front- but the mainstream conservatives tend not to be extremely right-wing. That being said, the current conservative candidate, Sarkozy, seems more right-wing than some; and I certainly hope that he isn't elected.

I do agree, however, that it's ironic that the Republican Party treats people like Chirac as left-wingers. Just shows how right-wing they are!
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 11:22 AM
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5. They hate themselves, they hate their
leaders, they hate government, they hate their lives...they are just very unhappy people.
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verse18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 11:25 AM
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6. From your title, I thought you were going to say the United States
A country that right wingers despise with a right wing government for years. Yeah, I think the US is appropriate here too.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:38 PM
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7. The Left-Right divide is somewhat different in Western Europe then in the US
European politics is generally tri-polar, the poles being Social Democracy, Classical Liberalism (Libertarianism), and Christian Democratic Paleo-Conservatism. European-style Paleo-Conservatism is somewhat different then American Conservatism because our form of Conservatism took up many elements of Classical Liberalism in the late 1800s, while the rest of the the classical liberal tradition here in the US joined with the labor movements to form modern American Liberalism.
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