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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:29 PM
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I cannot wait until we bring back the Fairness Doctrine, and get Hannity off the fucking air
I caught the intro to Hannity's radio program today - the very first thing I heard was "THE RADICALS HAVE WON" followed by a Rev. Jeremiah Wright clip. Hannity is a fucking POS,a hate-mongering asshole. I couldn't even stomach the thought of listening to what he had to say today. I can just imagine that he'll be trying to whip up an atmosphere of hatred, maybe bringing his neo-Nazi buddy Hal Turner on to discuss Obama's presidency.

If there were an "Axis of Evil" on the airwaves, I'd have to say that would be Hannity, Savage, and Coulter. The airwaves would be so much better off without them and their ilk spreading their hatred and bile. Like Schumer said recently, if the FCC can keep cursing and nekkidness off the airwaves, then we can keep this garbage off as well.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:30 PM
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1. The only time I want to see them on the TV is when Rachel Maddow has them on HER show to abuse them.
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 05:30 PM by IanDB1
There is, after all, only so much humiliation Pat Buchannan can take before he throws himself off an overpass.
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percussivemadness Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:30 PM
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2. Hannity needs to be arrested and tried for treason....
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:34 PM
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3. God forbid, but if anything happens to Obama, we need to hold these fuckers responsible
There have already been a couple of ill-conceived neo-Nazi attempts on Obama. You know damned well that with the likes of Hannity whipping up the hatred on a daily basis, it's only going to encourage them to keep trying.

Hell, we saw how conservative talk radio helped influence Timothy McVeigh, with their non-stop anti-government propaganda. Now take all that hatred, multiply it tenfold, and focus it on a single person - and add the racial element to it.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:35 PM
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4. That means no Olbermann, no Maddow, no Randi Rhodes, no Mike Malloy,
etc. Do you really want that?
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:41 PM
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9. I don't think cable networks would be affected, nor would satellite radio
Since you have to pay for those services, they wouldn't be affected. Pretty sure that the Fairness Doctrine would only apply to free, over-the-air broadcasts.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:43 PM
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12. This is true.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:44 PM
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13. The people I mentioned are on terrestial radio, not satellite. Hannity et al are
on cable networks.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:35 PM
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5. Obama is not inclined to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine
He's more likely to revisit media ownership regulations.

And the Fairness Doctrine does not mean 'anyone who's mean to Democrats is kicked off the air'.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:38 PM
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7. No, but I've heard some conservative hosts say they'd retire if it returned
It would mean that Hannity, Limbaugh, Boortz, etc would have to offer equal time to opposing points of view. It would mean that they would no longer control their shows. I've heard Boortz say several times that he would retire that if the Fairness Doctrine were reinstated.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:42 PM
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11. It doesn't mean that at all. It states that the broadcaster has to give equal time.
Not the show.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:45 PM
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14. I suggest you study up on the fairness doctrine
a little more to see its true meaning and intent. What limbaugh, hannity, boortz et al say about the fairness doctrine is only spewed to their lemmings to foment dissent against a very useful tool for information dissemination. Boortz says he would "retire" to piss off the ignorant trash who listen to his garbage and have them hate the fairness doctrine. I don't want right wing trash off the public airwaves, I want them responsible for their broadcasts, thats far different then your original post. Holding a conservative responsible for anything is like RAID to a cockroach.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:37 PM
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6. has anyone (other that us or Dennis Kucinich) proposed bringing back the Fairness Doctrine?
I haven't heard ANY discussion of that.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:40 PM
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8. Chuck Schumer recently spoke out in favor of it
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 06:39 PM
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17. cool!
Here's hoping!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:41 PM
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10. I'd love for there to be a new Fairness Doctrine. However without a
SCOTUS that leans liberal, when they start hearing the case on how the FD infringes on freedom of speech we might well lose the ruling.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 05:51 PM
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15. You are always the voice of reason My Friend
Unfortunately for our side, all the "kids" on the supreme court are neanderthals. Irony. And all those with a reason to retire or most likely to die are on our side, the near term result, a net gain of zero. As one with a journalism degree, a former practitioner of the trade and a student of the subject, I find no correlation between the fairness doctrine and the first amendment. But I do not have Antonin's brilliant mind.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 06:02 PM
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16. Ah, well my brain zipped straight to the Free Speech argument actually because I am a Green. Every
time I have argued for mandatory public financing/zero outside funding of elections I have been torn down repeatedly for trying to interfere with people's political free speech rights. So it occurred to me quite quickly that someone could make that argument against the FD too. LOL

Anyway, back to the SCOTUS, I am really hoping that Obama picks some good people to replace our elders there. They might not be as liberal as I would want but as long as they will put up an opposition to the conservative justices then I am happy.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:00 PM
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18. it`s all about advertising dollars
if there is a demand for liberal radio then the advertisers will put their money down. big ed said today is that progressives need to buy radio stations and put on good programing.

820am in chicago is a daylight station so the owners bought three fm stations that surround chicago so they can broadcast Rachel,ron reagan,and bill press. from 8 till 5 they broadcast dance club music...

Saturday they have varied programming plus local news guys that the big stations "retired".

we need the stations,advertisers,and listeners to make the fairness doctrine a mute point
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NWPatriot Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 07:23 PM
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19. It's been tried...
Remember "Air America"?

The problem with AA was despite it's lineup, no one wanted to listen to it. It was nothing but hour after hour of "Bush sucks!", "We hate Bush!", "Bush is the cause of all the world's problems!". People got sick of it after a while.

If liberal radio could make a product that was A)listenable, B)informative, and C)fun, people would listen. What AA put forth was screaming vitriol, mixed with boring discussions. I tried to listen to it, but I couldn't. It felt like all the hosts had their sense of humor surgically removed.

Despite what Rush, Hannity, Boortz, Medved, et.al. stand for, they try to make it fun. If it were nothing but screed, invective, and tirades, they wouldn't have the audiences they do. They make fun of themselves, which breaks up the tension. No one wants to hear stuff that's going to put them on edge for hours and hours at a time. If you can get past the message (difficult, I know) and listen to how they do their programs, you'll find they are all having fun. When the host is having fun, the listener picks up on it, and wants to keep listening. (I did 9 years in radio, so I know from whence I speak.)

If liberal radio would do this, a Fairness Doctrine wouldn't be needed, because a viable alternative to 'their' kind of talk radio would be a sought-after...and profitable...commodity.

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