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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:57 AM
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Blue Virginia
Virginia and the rest of the old South always voted for Democrats for president when the Democratic party stood for racism, and for Republicans when the Republican party stood for racism, until tonight. Virginia just voted for a Democrat for president, while the Republican party still carries the banner of racism. In fact, the Republican candidates played up their racism more this year than in other recent elections. In addition, the Democratic candidate was black. It's a new South.

Virginia is now a blue state, as is Florida, and at the time I wrote this it looked likely that North Carolina would be too. Other new blue states are: Ohio, Iowa, Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada. Other undecided states that used to be red are: Indiana, Missouri, Montana, and Alaska. It's a whole new map.

Of course, nothing is that black and white. Barack Obama's father was black and his mother white, so we call him black. When 51 percent of a state votes for a party, we apply that label to the state. Virginia voted 52 to 48 for Obama, and at the same time voted 64 to 35 for Mark Warner for Senate. Warner is a Democrat, but a white one. According to exit polls, only 41 percent of white Virginians backed Obama, and 20 percent of whites said race was a factor in their decision to back McCain. Meanwhile 40 percent of blacks said that race was a factor in their decision to back Obama, which 91 percent of blacks did. What put Obama over in Virginia was not the end of racism, but the end of support for George W. Bush, whom 72 percent of voters said they disapproved of. At the time I wrote this, North Carolina was too close to call for president, but had elected a white Democratic senator by a margin of 53 to 44 percent. And 71 percent of North Carolina voters said they disapproved of George W. Bush.

Here in Virginia's Fifth District we've long been misrepresented by one of Congress's most aggressive racists, Virgil Goode. Tonight I was present for the victory speech of his Democratic challenger, Tom Perriello. But the vote was so close that Goode may challenge the outcome. At best, I guess we should say that Virginia is purple. Like the nation as a whole, Virginia pulled off an election in which the presidential outcome matched the exit polls and the popular vote and did not have to be decided by lawyers. But there were 863 polling place problems reported to Election Protection, and many voters in the Fifth District voted on DRE machines, which means that no recount of their votes will be possible.

Obama has an even more militarist and corporatist platform than Bill Clinton, and yet the past eight years have made Obama seem like, and be, a dramatic change for the better. We should celebrate, and the world will join us in celebrating, the defeat of the party of Bush and Cheney. And yet we cannot celebrate having allowed them to remain in office for eight full years. We need to push now to impeach them and to prosecute them for their crimes. Restoring the rule of law to the White House in that way will have a bigger impact on the behavior of future presidents than any election. While unity and bipartisanship sound pleasant, they should not become justifications for lawlessness.

The Democrats, come January, will hold the White House and sizable majorities in the House and Senate, including a filibuster-proof 60 seats or very close to it in the Senate. (And Republican senators from states with Democratic governors could be given cabinet positions, and the District of Columbia could be given one or more senators.) The Republican party may be on the way out of existence. The question is what we can make of the Democrats, what we can persuade them to do. If they are truly democrats with a small d, they will have a lot to accomplish and almost no excuses not to do so.

They can begin with the positive steps advocated by Obama during his campaign:
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/37327 We can build on those advances by insisting on more decisive measures to shift our resources from war to peace and green energy. We can start now by lobbying the president elect to hire and appoint as his staff and administration individuals who represent change we can believe in.

(reposting in hopes of getting it to go into my journal)
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:58 AM
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1. You betta recognize Active Virginia DUers!!!
n/t
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 09:59 AM
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2. You rang?
:hi:
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:02 AM
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4. Go VA DU!
A job well done!

Now, let's lobby a federal government that actually might listen to us!
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:03 AM
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5. Gotta tell ya, when my county was called last night as the first one
and leaning McCain, I almost vomited. I should have known, though. Racist fucks every single one of them.

I just posted in the lounge how I probably lost my best friend over this because of her racism.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:07 PM
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16. Ouch.
My wife and I signed up to canvass at the big O's website, it sent us to Glen Allan, lol. We were like, why not Chesterfield?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:04 AM
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6. WE RAAAAAAAAWK!!!
A little self promotion won't make us ego maniacs but...

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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:06 PM
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15. WOOT.
My wife and I canvassed for the first time yesterday in Glenn Allan.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:02 AM
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3. Indeed, Impeach Bush/Cheney now!
K&R
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:04 AM
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7. Thank you for what I believe is a realistic appraisal. n/t
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:19 AM
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8. here's the link
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:02 AM
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9. We here in Maryland and DC worked so hard in Virginia. Day in and day out...
I am so proud of my Virginian brothers and sisters! Ya'll did so good!!
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WillieW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:50 AM
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12. yes, we worked hard and I am so happy Obama won.
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kegler14 Donating Member (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:35 AM
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10. Unfortunately, Goode is now the winner by 400 votes.
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:43 AM
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11. Goode v Perriello: Recount?
There is still hope that Virginia's Fifth District can be rid of Virgil Goode, but the final count has him in the lead. A recount is possible, and if there is any basis for it, I hope that Democratic candidate Tom Perriello will request it. Even if he loses a recount, Perriello would earn our respect as someone who stands up to see that every vote is counted, rather than someone who runs in fear of being called names like "sore loser."

The many complaints of polling place problems recorded yesterday by Election Protection in Virginia do not appear to be concentrated in the Fifth District. But there are serious complaints there, which if verified would throw the election in a very bad light. I've pasted some of the reports below.

It's important to remember, however, that even if every election machine worked perfectly, there is absolutely no way to recount the votes made on them. I voted early and on paper, so my vote can be recounted. Most people voted on DRE machines, which arguably violate the Virginia Constitution's requirement of public vote counting. These machines count votes inside a black box. It cannot be made public. It cannot be verified. We simply have to hope that the machines got it right, which -- of course -- such machines quite often do not. Sometimes, as documented below, their failures are even visible to voters.

While Virginia has cut off funding for these machines, it has not yet banned their use. Paper ballots can be counted with optical scan machines. Those machines are just as unreliable as DREs, but leave a paper trail that can be recounted. Most reliable of all, and least expensive, would be paper ballots placed in a locked transparent box, publicly opened and counted at each polling place with witnesses from all interested parties, and the results publicly posted at each polling place. Registration issues would be solved by instituting universal registration. Regardless of the outcome of this particular election, it should point us toward such necessary reforms. Here are some of the reported (not verified) problems from counties that are in part or in whole within Virginia's Fifth District:

This is from Campbell County:

"Voting machine is jamming. Asking voter to hit "McCain" to clear the machine, instead of using override to clear and to let the voters properly register the vote. Local NAACP has been called about the problem."

From Charlottesville:

"Voter from Charlottesville, VA requested an absentee ballot which only arrived on Election Day."

"Student voters were not able to cast a regular ballot because they registered with student groups that did not turn in the forms on time."

"Unsubstantiated rumor from Clark that machines broke down at Tonsler. As a result paper ballots were being used. Some were not being counted due to boxes not being completely filled in (they were checked instead). However, instruction wasn't being provided to completely fill-in ballots."

From Bedford:

"concerned whether the machine properly recorded her vote. the machine jammed when the voter in front of her tried to vote."

"machine stalled on voter before this voter - would not go forward or backward - voter had to vote on machine after they got it going again and is concerned about whether her vote counted because there was no papertrail"

From Fluvanna:

"Tried to vote. The candidate for senator came up, voted, but the candidates for president never came up on the voting screen. Also happened to the person that came before her."

From Cumberland:

"Family members have same name. One member of family committed felony. Other member denied ability to vote."

From Greene:

"Poll worker pressed wrong button on voting machine (hit countrywide and not enter) as a result voter was not able to vote in statewide races. Thinks that this may be happening to other voters as a result of poll worker error. Left polls crying. Poll worker said would file an incident reprot but was told by superiors that this "could not happen" with the electronic machines. Voters thinks that it may signfiy other problems with machines."

From Appomatox:

"Touch screen voting machine did not allow the voter the opportunity to vote for the Presidential candidates. Talked to voter registration people for their county and they said there was nothing they could do after the ballot was submitted. Voter registration officials told the voter that there had been similar problems in Appamattox, VA."

From Prince Edward:

"Caller learned that others had entered a nursing home and filled out patients' ballots without them knowing who they were voting for."

From Franklin:

"Voter mailed registration form in, is listed as registered in our database, but was told he was not registered when he went to his polling place."

"Voter selected Obama and McCain showed as indicated. Voter corrected her ballot and machine then recorded her selected choice after voter talked w/election official"

From Henry:

"saw a man with republican campaign buttons approach 4 elderly african american voters and he told them to vote the bible; voter's husband reported this to the supervisor in the elections office in Henry County"

"Went vote early. They told him that because he works for a campaign, he cannot vote early except for presiden. He did not vote at all as a consequence. Went to vote at the Henry County Administration Building, 3300 Kings Mountain Road, Collinsville. Approximately at 1:15 pm on October 31, 2008."

"attempted to register son on line. Not in Va. database"

From Mecklenburg:

"Caller was turned away from proper polling place because told he was not on the registration list. Caller has a registration card and voted in the primaries, so it is surprising that voter does not appear in any of the registration databases. Voter has not moved since the primary election this year."

"Voter was told she is not registered, although she is showing up on our database as registered."

"She is 53 and voted a lot fo different ways and today they looked at IDs. She is used to electronic way and the woman handed her a paper ballot and she said that the machine is broken. She didn't tell and didn't say anything. Explained it to the person previously and never tells her where to put it. Folded ballot and put in the box. She called the voting registrar but he said that the machine had been fixed at 6:30. Worried that her ballot would not be counted. No one was watching the box. Thinks that these voted won't be counted. Thinks that the machines are fixed but doesn't know."

"Touch screens difficult to register answer. He got help from poll worker, but is concerned that others are not able to make their selections properly because it is difficult to press. Mecklenburg County. Precinct 701"

"Daughter and son in law moved to Georgia in early October and faxed absentee ballot to Virginia. Daughter called local board; said not received."

From Brunswick:

"She asked to help her. The poll worker got an attitude with her. They got into an argument and the poll worker would not allow her to vote and asked her to leave."
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:01 PM
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13. There ought to be a recount!
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:06 PM
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14. Perriello Says
he thinks provisional ballots not yet counted will win it for him
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:25 PM
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20. I truly hope so. I can't stand Virgil Goode!
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:09 PM
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17. Helping out yesterday canvassing makes the victory that much sweeter. eom
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:10 PM
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18. If we could only get rid of Eric Cantor now.
Anyone know if Thelma Drake lost?
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WahooJunkie Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 01:12 PM
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21. Yep
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:21 PM
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19. Shout out to my nephew for helping turn Williamsburg blue. Go Brian.
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 03:02 PM
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22. Never thought I'd see the day...
4 years ago I would have given anything to see VA go blue...along with FL, OH, PA, and possibly NC!
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