To the Obama campaign: Run answer ads to the J. Wright ads NOW!

[DeltaLitProf]

I agree that these new ads featuring Wright are not going to stop Obama from winning Tuesday, but they may WELL bring Republican turnout up and endanger some of the Democrat senate and house candidates.

You should have had an answer for the Wright ad running SATURDAY. It is a shock to me you have no such ads running Sunday and that I'm reading of no signs of an answer ad being in the works.

Make the answer ad NOW. Run it ASAP in EVERY state with important downticket races.

To do otherwise may result in damage to your chances of getting your policies passed.

[Bicoastal]

1. I'm sorry, but I'm going to trust the Obama team's confidence over your paranoia.

[Trajan]

8. Campaigns require tactical success ...

Tactics requires thinking ....

Sheep do not think, they follow .... If you choose to defer all your thinking, then that is your choice ...

One word: Swiftboat ...

I would not mind if the Obama campaign, in all it's tactical perfection, decided to kick some RW ass by responding to these Wright ads .... Not one bit ....

I would ask no one in DU for permission to think, nor care if they don't grant it ...

But you may feel free to defer your won thinking ... til the cows come home ....

It isnt about paranoia ... It is about tactics, done well ...

If your fists are not raised, your head is exposed ....

[Bicoastal]

13. You did NOT just call me a sheep. I KNOW you didn't.

You spoke out of anger and stress, not logic.

You have absolutely NO proof that the state polls you choose to put all your trust in right now are narrowing because of McCain's scare tactics. None whatsoever. And you're conveniently overlooking the ones that still have him up confidently. AND the National polls, which are everything we can hope for. But the fact in the matter is, this election goes on for ONE more day and then there isn't a DAMN thing you or I anyone else can do about it.

Step down, you nervous nellie. Step down NOW.

[Trajan]

24. Spare me the Obi Wan crap ....

I have presented NOTHING but what I believe to be sound campaign tactics ....

Get off your high horse, and rejoin the population ....

And yes: I called you a sheep ....

You are not my shephard ....

[Bicoastal]

27. Well, I'm going to call you a sanctimonious moron who's talking loudly out of his ass.

How does that grab you, O great tactician?

[Trajan]

29. Whoopee ....

Like I give a holy fuck ....

[DeltaLitProf]

32. Yeah, this really helps Democrats get elected

Aren't you proud of yourself?

[Bicoastal]

34. I don't know about you, Delta, but I don't care to be called names...

...especially by people who clearly don't know any more about politics than I do, and probably less, from the sound of it.

I'm not proud of myself. I lashed out cause of stress, but I'm hardly alone in that regard. We're going to win on Tuesday, but we need to chill on Monday.

[4lbs]

14. The SwiftBoat ads worked because they were 40 days before Election Day, not 40 hours like this ad.

In addition, the people weren't focused on the economy as much as the Iraq War. Thus, questioning Kerry's patriotism worked better.

Now that people are focused almost solely on the economy, the Wright ad will fail because it doesn't address economic issues at all.

[DeltaLitProf]

21. So I guess the Al-Qaeda tape released the weekend before the 04 election

. . . did NO damage, since it had not been released 40 days prior to the election, right? Is that your logic?

[4lbs]

40. The Al-Qaeda tape was still linked to the Iraq War and the greater War on Terrorism that the Bush

administration was waging. That's why it was effective.

If there was an Al-Qaeda tape released this weekend, it would have almost ZERO effect, because it doesn't address economic issues.

If people were concerned about the two wars as their #1 issue, then it would affect things. The economy is the #1 issue for the vast majority of the country. Any ad that doesn't address the economy and issues like healthcare, taxes, and jobs, all part of the greater economic picture, would be relatively toothless.

The Ayers attack ads didn't affect things significantly, except to the Republican base, which were never going to vote for Obama in the first place.

The Wright ads will have the biggest effect in the GOP base, which won't affect the overall scheme of things because the GOP base isn't voting for Obama anyway.

[anigbrowl]

45. That was something new at the time

...and frankly, I don't think it did have much impact on the election.

The Wright thing is just more of an issue that was already beaten to death for 6 weeks. Anyone who's motivated to vote GOP by it was probably going to do so anyway; it's not like it includes some stunning new revelation to shock swing voters.

[Trajan]

26. I agree about the time frame ,....

But there is a reality for Democrats after Kerry: SMASH RW BS at it's root ....

You don't ignore stuff like that .... You smack it down ....

I believe it will fail, but it is 'bad form' to let it slide ....

[anigbrowl]

44. Not to mention that Wright is a dead horse and old news in this election cycle

Yeah, obviously the 'pubs hope to get something out of it but frankly I think bringing up an issue that was done to death earlier in the year just makes them look desperate. If I was the Obama campaign I wouldn't consider it worthy of an ad response - the GOP has nothing new to say so you might as well let them wallow in the mud and stay positive.

[niceypoo]

2. This is an ancient issue that died last summer

it is their last gasp

[DeltaLitProf]

17. So was the issue that Al-Qaeda supported John Kerry

. . . until the last weekend before the 04 election. Then suddenly, with the help of a probably faked video, it gained new relevance. That weekend probably cost us Ohio.

[billyoc]

3. The Obama campaign has already addressed this.

[boozepusher]

6. I don't think

it was handled very well at all. I think it's one of the few mistakes made in the campaign.

[cliffordu]

7. ah, yes, another brain surgeon....

Welcome to DU!!!!

IBTT!!

[boozepusher]

10. Thanks for the welcome

but I'm not sure why you are trying to insult me. Obama has run an amazing campaign. I just feel this issue has been a real problem for them and wasn't handled very well.

[billyoc]

11. Lucky so many are riding to our rescue!

:rofl:

[cliffordu]

12. I've felt so.....

Alone......


:rofl:

[DeltaLitProf]

4. I'm more of a War Room democrat than you guys are

I just think that every attack, especially if they're mounted on a NATIONAL scale the way this one is, MUST be answered and answered in a way that does harm to the attacker.

I'm also aware of how pre-election weekend events can influence elections.

And if indeed Obama has the money advantage we've been told he has, why haven't we seen an answer ad already saturating the airwaves?

[cliffordu]

5. YOU ARE A FUCKING GENIUS AND YOU NEED TO CALL THE CAMPAIGN RIGHT NOW1!!

HERE: TAKE THIS WITH YOU!!!!

:hurts:


IBTT!!! IBTL!!!

[DeltaLitProf]

19. You are obnoxious . . .

. . . as evidenced by your signature line and by your sarcasm. We are Democrats here. We want progressive policies. What do you want?

[cliffordu]

28. I want you to stop acting like you know more than the most competent

political campaign in the history of American Politics.

And, as an added bonus, take this with you:

:hurts:

[DeltaLitProf]

33. I'm not.

But you are acting like the last several elections post-Clinton have gone down as total successes for Democrats and that the Republicans just lay down and died, that their last minute smear ads had no effect.

You're acting like this thing is over already. I know you'd like to rest. But the GOP would also like you to rest. What's more, they'd like you attack other Democrats with meaningless sarcasm and toilet humor.

You're doing their job for them. Be proud of yourself.

[cliffordu]

37. Well.....

What have you actually done for Obama, I mean besides burst in and enlighten us with your brilliance, insight and political acumen, Hmm, sparky???

[DeltaLitProf]

41. Given $500

n/t

[cliffordu]

43. If you go to his website you can help make calls and help GOTV....

[ColbertWatcher]

9. Do you have suggestions as to what this ad should say? n/t

[DeltaLitProf]

15. My ideas

It should refute the idea that Obama sat through similar sermons to the "Goddamn America" one for 20 years. Unfortunately, before he retired Wright went a little funny in the head. This is well known among members of that church. Get someone from the church to say so on screen.

An alternative is to run a new ad about McCain's abandonment of veterans' health and welfare over the years of his Senate tenure. There is data a plenty for this attack.

Winning Democratic campaigns NEVER let an attack go unanswered.

[ColbertWatcher]

20. "new ad about McCain's abandonment of veterans' health and welfare" That might be a good idea.

But, these dog whistle ads are not meant for undecided voters, they're for the base to get out and vote for things like Prop 8.

I doubt this Reverend Wright crap will do anything to the numbers.

[DeltaLitProf]

22. I pray you're right

. . . but I have less faith in the intelligence of American tv viewers.

[wanpete]

35. a new ad about John Mc's shortcomings may be appropriate, but a

response to the Rev. Wright ad at this point, would only bring more legitimacy and attention to it. Barack has addressed this issue as well as it could be addressed last summer. In my humble opinion, I don't think a direct response to this add is wise at this point.

[ColbertWatcher]

48. "bring more legitimacy and attention to it" I agree.

This issue has been dealt with, let it die.

[d_b]

16. ...

[cliffordu]

30. ROFLMAO!!!!!! Fuck me that's funny.

:applause:



:headbang:

[DeltaLitProf]

31. This is exactly what the GOP wants you to post

They want you thinking this election is over. Never mind that one of their 527s has made the biggest ad buy of the year to spread the smear that nearly did in Obama's campaign for the Democratic nomination. Never mind. For you this is over.

[cliffordu]

38. Blow it out your ass, professor.

[d_b]

39. Its been over for awhile now, yes.

now fuck off, professor dipshit.

[Yes We Did]

18. IBTL

:popcorn:

[ecstatic]

23. I am somewhat concerned because I think Kerry was derailed in the last 48 hrs

with the fake OBL tapes. It's never too late for a smear to work.

[DeltaLitProf]

25. It IS too late for this to destroy Obama,

. . . but it could help Chambliss, McConnell, Coleman, Musgrove, Schmidt, Bachmann and other downticket Republicans we DONT want to see resurrected.

[wanpete]

36. I definitely think this ad is to help down tickets the most...and it will help with some, like here

in GA. I'd love to see Saxby bite the dust, but it may not happen this year.

[DeltaLitProf]

42. Looks like we need to close this thread

Here's a link to another thread with a report from AP on the ad that the Obama campaign is going to respond with. Looks like a killer to me. It features Cheney's endorsement of McCain:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3579156

[endthewar]

47. And it has absolutely nothing to do with Rev. Wright

Looks like your political acumen isn't as high as you thought it was. Thanks for playing. Come back soon. :rofl:

[endthewar]

46. Please don't become a campaign strategist anytime soon

We don't need you running good campaigns into the ground. :crazy:

Perhaps Obama should trot out Rev. Wright in a commercial to deny that Obama was in church for any of these sermons? This is not a storyline that he should feed. Also, he has greatly protected himself with a large get out the vote effort coupled with amazingly high numbers of early voters in favor of the Democrats. The ball is in McCain's court on this issue and there's no need for Obama to toss fuel on the fire.

Do you even read your own posts? They have "super drama queen" written all over them. The Obama campaign is a steady campaign, not a knee jerk campaign. Knee jerk campaigns look like a McCain campaign, and it causes general unrest and uneasiness for voters watching the campaign. That's when you get decisions like suspending your campaign to save the American economy.

"To do otherwise may result in dmage to your chances of getting your policies passed." :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: