So if Virginia goes for Obama is the election over?

[Bandit]

Virginia is being declared a must win for McCain. It is one of the first states we will get returns from. If it goes to Obama should we pop the corks and start our celebration?

[CPschem]

1. I don't know

but if GA goes blue it's really over

[Le Taz Hot]

2. I don't see how it could be any other outcome.

There really is no way McCain can win at this point and his campaign knows it.

[lazer47]

3. There is an old saying in poker Quote

"Never count your money till the dealing is done""

[Le Taz Hot]

16. I thought that was Kenny Rogers

;-)

[ladjf]

20. Having played a good bit of poler in my life, I'd modify that saying

just a bit to "Never count your money until the hand has been won."

[trof]

21. You never count your money when youre sittin' at the table.

There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done.
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/k/kenny+rogers/the+gambler_20077886.html

[Trajan]

4. There are more scenarios than that ...

Obama wins if he keeps Pennsylvania and wins ANY of the battleground states; Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado ...

There are so many paths to victory this year .... I believe we will see it through this time ...

BTW: Virginia is the one state I think Obama is DEFINITELY going to win ....

[Happyhippychick]

5. I think the real determinant is North Carolina. If NC goes blue then McCain needs to pack a bag.

[nerddem]

10. i think va is a win, nc is a landslide. nt

[Happyhippychick]

14. Yes, that.

[demnan]

6. No but its a good indication

I'm going to celebrate when that happens (notice I don't say if) and I'll celebrate again when we get to 270 electoral votes (probably when Colorado or New Mexico are declared)

[angstlessk]

7. I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL...

if by 9:00 pm EST it appears Obama has won all the needed 'red' states on the east coast those in other time zones might not turn out...ON OUR SIDE!!!

[Ioo]

8. Yes they will Prop 8 in CA will make Dems go out to the polls

and if we win FL, VA, and a Carolina... OR and WA were never in play, we do not need CO NM

[nerddem]

9. more or less?

if we assume he'll hold all the kerry states and because it looks like iowa is a lock, then va would put him over the top

[PaDem]

11. we'd have to hold onto PA.........

by holding onto PA and winning VA, we end it.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

12. I think Virginia will not be done counting until close to midnight

Remember, the Webb/Allen race took forever.......

[lonestarnot]

13. I'm watching until the last dog is counted! I'm not going to bed until we have

President Elect Obama! :applause: I don't care which states he has, just so he has about all of them! :D

[Katidid]

17. Ditto n/t

:toast:

[darkism]

15. PA and VA (or NC) + IA will put us over 270 without any other swing state.

Even in the unlikely event of a sea of red in the others.

[NoPasaran]

18. It may not be over

But it will be a cue for the fat lady to start warming up.

[yellowcanine]

19. Not exactly, but with PA and OH or NC or FL, for sure.

[ThomWV]

22. Yes, of course that signals its over. If they can't hold the door to the south closed

Then we march right on in.

[norepubsin08]

23. I would say if he wins VA then

it's pretty much a done deal..however I do worry about PA...I think that is the one of the two places they will try to cheat...that and Colorado. I don't think they would be putting all that time and money into PA if they didn't think they had a plan to take it away. For me the confirmation that the election is stolen would be an Obama loss in PA